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Re: At which point do we take the value of impedance to tune an antenna?
On 8/9/22 4:03 PM, Brian D wrote:
"Dave W6OQ via groups.io" <david.hostetler@...> wrote:What one wants to avoid (with some transmitters) is too much reactive component - sure, you can cancel it with a passive component, but that component will have some loss AND the required value changes with frequency.On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:16 PM, Ray W8LYJ wrote:Resonance could be a paralell resonance, as with a full wave dipole, whichExactly! But not just amateurs, everyone! So if you have a transmitter that wants to see High Z, then you might choose that full wavelength doublet. If your transmitter wants to see low Z, then maybe a 1/4 wave over a ground plane (~35 ohms at resonance). For a practical system engineering solution, leaving aside a regulatory constraint (like 1500 W PEP), you want to trade mismatch (not getting as much power to the antenna as you might with a match) vs loss in matching components vs loss in a passive pad (if the transmitter can't tolerate mismatch). Lots of people (non-amateurs) use a terminated folded dipole as a very wide band low gain antenna, because they have RF power to burn, and they don't have to worry about (auto)tuning a matching network. |
Re: At which point do we take the value of impedance to tune an antenna?
Many collinear arrays are also high-Z. That quoted statement from ARRL is
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a gross over simplification! Dipoles, Yagis, yes. But there are many common radiating structures that do not offer low-Z to match. For my long doublet (half-wave resonance is about 950 kHz) fed with parallel conductor transmission line I use for 160 through 6-meters the real part of the measured impedance ranges from 12 to 1160 ohms in the shack. After measuring the complex impedance in the shack and spending a lot of time on SimSmith, I designed and built my own antenna matching unit (a.k.a., "antenna tuner"). Dave - W?LEV On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:03 PM Brian D <groups@...> wrote:
"Dave W6OQ via groups.io" <david.hostetler@...> wrote:--On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:16 PM, Ray W8LYJ wrote:resonance *Dave - W?LEV* *Just Let Darwin Work* --
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Re: At which point do we take the value of impedance to tune an antenna?
"Dave W6OQ via groups.io" <david.hostetler@...> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:16 PM, Ray W8LYJ wrote:Resonance could be a paralell resonance, as with a full wave dipole, whichExactly! But not just amateurs, everyone! is high impedance. -- Brian D G3VGZ G8AOE G3T IO94im |
Re: At which point do we take the value of impedance to tune an antenna?
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:16 PM, Ray W8LYJ wrote:
Exactly! But not just amateurs, everyone! |
Re: Failure to get Nanovna saver to load/run
#nanovna-v2
Thanks, but still a problem.
Wouldn¡¯t download with Chrome, but as advised I used Edge. Initially said it wouldn¡¯t download because of malware risk, but ignored that and downloaded. When clicked to open, it advised a version 4 was available. Clicking ok then led to the programme opening, but clicking connect, with correct COM port, led to no data showing. David |
Re: NanoVNA_H4 4.3_MS schematics
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:02 AM, Kyle Claisse wrote:
You should be drawing current when the NanoVNA is off if the battery needs charging. The battery has a protection circuit in it to prevent over and undercharge. Perhaps that has failed. You can see it through the yellow Kapton tape. Try taking the battery out of the nanoVNA and see if it will take current from an adjustable power supply. Start with a low voltage and then move up slowly to 4.1 Volts. Roger |
Re: Smith's book. free download
thank you
martin n6qlh On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Larry McElhiney via groups.io <lmcelhiney= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Martin, |
Re: At which point do we take the value of impedance to tune an antenna?
From ARRL antenna book many editions:
Resonance has no effect on antenna performance. The only reason amateurs like to operate an antenna at or NEAR resonance is because the feed point impedance is low so it¡¯s easier to match. Ray W8LYJ |
Re: Smith's book. free download
what do you use to scan for malesre in the iphone? i eould like to get a
anti virus scanner Martin On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 11:23 AM Larry McElhiney via groups.io <lmcelhiney= [email protected]> wrote: For those who are most concerned about copyright, one of the links has an |
Re: NanoVNA_H4 4.3_MS schematics
I found a nicely translated datasheet for the 4056 and the temp pin to ground disables temperature monitoring so that's not it. I can't measure anything wrong on the board but it just refuses to charge. It runs fine on the battery although the voltage is now at 3.25v and dropping.
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Re: NanoVNA_H4 4.3_MS schematics
Awesome, that schematic looks correct! Its definitely not the cable, theres no current draw when the switch is off but when the switch is on the USB port draws around 300mA but doesn't charge the battery no matter how long the device is left on that way. Essentially, for now, I have to use it plugged into an external USB battery as the internal battery is nearly dead. I'm measuring a dead short on the TEMP pin which I suspect may be responsible but now that I have the schematics I can get a better idea.
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Re: Smith's book. free download
Many times when I am looking for a book I type the title in the search bar and put PDF after it and find what I want. Sometimes there is malware. In that case I run a free program called tron. It has allways fixed the problem.
Chris Sent from Mail for Windows From: Dan Abell Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Smith's book. free download All, these sources of ¡°free books¡± most likely contain some current copyrighted material and despite a USA string in the URL are more likely Chinese or other offshore based entities. Just know what you are doing. Oh and here¡¯s a quote from PCMag: ¡° PC Matic does install an ad blocker in your browsers, but there's no component to detect and avert malware-hosting URLs or phishing URLs¡±. Just saying ... Dan |
Re: Failure to get Nanovna saver to load/run
#nanovna-v2
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 08:14 AM, David Hilton-Jones wrote:
The -F V2 is a Sysjoint product. Thy have their own version of Saver. Download at this link... Roger |
Re: NanoVNA_H4 4.3_MS schematics
Cliff
Some charge cables work and some don't. If you have another cable try it. The cable is likely the issue unless you've used it in the past and it worked with the H4.
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73, Cliff, AE5ZA On Aug 9, 2022, at 02:30, Kyle Claisse <kporgaltmail@...> wrote: |
NanoVNA_H4 4.3_MS schematics
Does anyone have a link to a schematic diagram for the HW version
4.3_MS of the NanoVNA-H4? My NanoVNA-H4 doesn't charge (no charge light and no current flow) when connected to USB. I looked at the board and its charging IC is an LN4056-H (labeled U2) but none of the schematics I have found seem use this IC. I am having a hard time diagnosing the issue without correct schematics. Are these newer diagrams available publicly? Thanks, Kyle |
Failure to get Nanovna saver to load/run
#nanovna-v2
I'm going mad trying to get Saver to load and run.
NanoVNA-F V2 Rev. C Firmware v0.3.0 Build Aug 2021 Windows 10 - up to date. Running as Administrator NanoVNASaver.x64 v0.4.0 I download, extract, run as administrator. Black window appears, fills with text, then closes, and then nothing (I've waited an hour!) No doubt something I'm doing wrong, but what?! David, G4YTL |
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