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Re: How do I load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

 

No joy.

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John AE5X


Re: How do I load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

 

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 02:39 PM, John AE5X wrote:

I have the dreaded white screen after attempting a firmware update. Reading
past postings indicates that I need to load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

My PC no longer sees the vna, therefore "Available DFU Devices" in DfuSe is
blank and nothing can be selected. What step(s) am I missing?
Have you tried powering off and then holding down the jog wheel while you power on to go into DFU mode?

If that works try loading your firmware release again (make sure it is for the H4) and see if that works.

If it does I would do a clearconfig 1234, calibrate the touch screen and then save. Then do a a calibration and save to slot 0. Power off/on and make sure it all works with your different loads.

Roger


Re: NanoVNA RF Demo Kit connection

 

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 08:52 PM, arnold slag wrote:

Same problem here!
Have a look in the wiki:
/g/nanovna-users/wiki/16592

73, Rudi DL5FA


Re: How do I load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

 

Correction: nanoVNA-H
No "4"

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John AE5X


How do I load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

 

into a nanoVNA-4?

I have the dreaded white screen after attempting a firmware update. Reading past postings indicates that I need to load DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu

My PC no longer sees the vna, therefore "Available DFU Devices" in DfuSe is blank and nothing can be selected. What step(s) am I missing?

Tnx/73,
--
John AE5X


Re: backyard antenna ranges

 

On 2/3/21 11:50 AM, Dave W6OQ wrote:
"I've also found the same general idea very useful in measuring the relative coupling between my various ham antennas so that I can decide if I need to worry about protecting receivers on a given antenna from transmitters on others...."

That's a very usable idea! Thanks
Oddly, I was just about to measure the port to port isolation on a RCS-8V, to see if it's safe to leave the NanoVNA connected to one port, and the 100W transceiver to the other.? +50 dBm on one port, probably want to keep power on the other ports <0dBm, so we'll find out if the measurement floor is low enough for the measurement.


Re: SAA2N problem

 

Your long coax cable has destroyed input components (C1 or input switch MXD 8614) at connector 1 of your nanovna. This may happen due to electrostatics on the cable. You should shorten the cable bevor making measurements.

You can measure the input reflection of your defective nanovna with another vna. When the measured nanovna is off, you normaly measure an open. When you switch it on, then you should measure a 50 ohm at the input, but only for seconds. When the measured nanovna is energized with RF, then your measurement is disturbed by this RF.

73, DK5DN

Am 03.02.2021 um 20:06 schrieb Thomas Kerns:

I have an SAA2N that has been working fine. Yesterday I was using it to measure a long run of coax, and it was working fine. Then it just started acting like it was not sending a signal out of port 0. I reset the calibration, and noticed on the smith chart with nothing attached to port 0, the dot was near the left side of the smith chart that would normally indicate a short. I put the 50 ohm load on it, and the dot did not move, nor when I put on the short.
I decided to calibrate it, so ran through the calibration procedure, and now I get the spaghetti screen (lines all over the place). If I reset the calibration, it goes back to the trace on the left side of the smith chart.
It is acting like there is a short on port 0. Has anybody had this happen? I tried resetting everything, and results are exactly the same...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Tom




Measuring HF balun Performance

 

I thought these might be of interest to the group.

Properly Testing Baluns by W8JI


Measuring HF Balun Performance by W6WO


Roger


Re: NanoVNA RF Demo Kit connection

arnold slag
 

Same problem here!

Op do 29 okt. 2020 14:20 schreef Richard <raitchd@...>:

I have a new RF Demo Kit board that came with two connecting wires. One
end is an SMA male connector and the other end is something that I have
never seen before. It is supposed to connect to the test positions on
the circuit board. I have not been able to make the connection because
it is very resistant and may take a lot more force than I am willing to
do before I learn more about it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Richard KC9UB







Re: backyard antenna ranges

 

"I've also found the same general idea very useful in measuring the relative coupling between my various ham antennas so that I can decide if I need to worry about protecting receivers on a given antenna from transmitters on others...."

That's a very usable idea! Thanks


SAA2N problem

 

I have an SAA2N that has been working fine. Yesterday I was using it to measure a long run of coax, and it was working fine. Then it just started acting like it was not sending a signal out of port 0. I reset the calibration, and noticed on the smith chart with nothing attached to port 0, the dot was near the left side of the smith chart that would normally indicate a short. I put the 50 ohm load on it, and the dot did not move, nor when I put on the short.
I decided to calibrate it, so ran through the calibration procedure, and now I get the spaghetti screen (lines all over the place). If I reset the calibration, it goes back to the trace on the left side of the smith chart.
It is acting like there is a short on port 0. Has anybody had this happen? I tried resetting everything, and results are exactly the same...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Tom


Re: backyard antenna ranges

 

Last winter I did a lot of UHF antenna debugging for a wireless microphone installation project in my small basement by using the through mode of the VNA and measuring the loss/gain between the antenna under test and a dipole antenna a few wavelengths away.

I built a number of discone variants and log periodic arrays for the 500Mhz range and found it easy to weed out the ones that were a waste of time. I ended up with some nice tiny discones and A4 size log periodics for the final installation...

Of course I did not get absolute measurement quality results and I had to experiment a bit to confirm that I wasn't seeing reflected paths from nearby objects, but the results were useful enough to build several prototypes and pretest the final versions before taking ithem outside.

I've also found the same general idea very useful in measuring the relative coupling between my various ham antennas so that I can decide if I need to worry about protecting receivers on a given antenna from transmitters on others....

M


Re: spreading information far and wide, usefully

Jean-Denis Muys
 

IMHO, the best choice for editable documents is Markdown. Sure it has limitations, eg it¡¯s cumbersome to include images.

Also PDF is more editable than it looks. This requires specialized software though. I use PDF Expert on my Mac.

Jean-Denis

On Feb 3, 2021, at 08:24, Dragan Milivojevic <d.milivojevic@...> wrote:

Docx is not an open standard. OpenDocument is and it is an
international standard.

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 17:03, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:

On 2/3/21 7:40 AM, Manfred Mornhinweg wrote:
I was also opening these docx files in OpenOffice, on my good old
Windows XP. But like Jean-Denis comments, the format gets screwed up, the
colums don't align.

Using PDF is much better. Probably pretty much any computer and similar
device in the world has a PDF reader installed, that works well. And most
text processors can write PDF files directly, and for those that cannot,
it's easy enough to print to a PDF conversion utility. So their is no good
reason to distribute text files in the internal formats of specific text
processor programs.

we're sort of getting off nanovna here, so if the moderators want to
kill it, fine.

The problem with pdf is that it's not editable. .docx and LaTeX are both
editable forms, with varying degrees of portability and cross platform
ness.

If you want to create something where others contribute changes (like a
user manual) then pdf isn't great. As others have noted, .docx is "sort
of" supported across a wide variety of readers (LibreOffice, Mac
TextEdit) - The problem I've found is that the stuff you really want to
control (page layout, tables, and image management) is the part that
breaks first. Such is life.

There are long wars about preferences for LaTeX vs MSWord, and a lot
depends on the community you come from. Academia in the physical
sciences or math - probably LaTeX; Academia in other fields - probably
Word; Industry in general - Word; US Government - Word. Cloud apps like
overleaf make working with LaTeX easier, but does require an internet
connection. There are WYSIWYG LaTeX editors out there too.

I've not had great success with various Wiki or Markdown approaches for
tutorial or reference material. Something about it causes it to
gradually degrade in formatting or to become disorganized. Pretty
rapidly, most wikis become a place where the information you need is
"somewhere" but it's hard to figure out where. Same applies to large
document repositories - I guess this is why editors and curators are
necessary, because the search engines tend to find too little or too much.


Probably what is best in the long run is how some papers are being
published - pdf or html for the text, with separate discrete files for
the images and/or tables. You can read it easily with the pdf, but if
you want to pull the full resolution figure, or import the tabular data,
it's available. My own preference is that if you used software to
generate the data plots, can you provide the data and the software code
used for the plot (usually Matlab or Python). That makes it possible to
regenerate the plot, or add data to it, or add markings, which is often
handy.













Re: USING THE NANOVNA AND SAVER TO MEASURE CM ATTENUATION THROUGH CMCs

 

Yes, Flex-Weave, AWG #14, from DavisRF is what I used.

Dave - W?LEV

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:49 AM John Button G8JMB via groups.io
<hornpipe112@...> wrote:

Hi Dave

Thank you for your really helpful reply. Puts a lot into perspective.

My comment on wire was not directed to metric/imperial - that's a minor
inconvenience, just means using wire tables- but to proprietry wire types,
eg "'antenna' wire from DavisRF ".
I looked at the Davis RF site - there are several possibilities- did you
use flexweave, pe or pvc insulation?


73
John G8JMB





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*Dave - W?LEV*
*Just Let Darwin Work*


Re: USING THE NANOVNA AND SAVER TO MEASURE CM ATTENUATION THROUGH CMCs

 

On Wednesday 03 February 2021 11:16:01 am Zack Widup wrote:
Both Open Office and Libre Office (free programs) can open docx files.

Zack
Right. But both of these are rather resource-intensive, take a while to load, and make me not want to bother with the document in question.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 9:52 AM Roy J. Tellason, Sr. <roy@...>
wrote:

On Tuesday 02 February 2021 01:14:53 pm Joe St. Clair AF5MH wrote:
I suggest that you convert the document to PDF format. The .docx format
seems to be problematic on non-Microsoft systems.

Agreed. I _can_ open those docx files, but won't for the most part
bother...

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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin


Re: spreading information far and wide, usefully

 

Docx is not an open standard. OpenDocument is and it is an
international standard.

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 17:03, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:

On 2/3/21 7:40 AM, Manfred Mornhinweg wrote:
I was also opening these docx files in OpenOffice, on my good old
Windows XP. But like Jean-Denis comments, the format gets screwed up, the
colums don't align.

Using PDF is much better. Probably pretty much any computer and similar
device in the world has a PDF reader installed, that works well. And most
text processors can write PDF files directly, and for those that cannot,
it's easy enough to print to a PDF conversion utility. So their is no good
reason to distribute text files in the internal formats of specific text
processor programs.

we're sort of getting off nanovna here, so if the moderators want to
kill it, fine.

The problem with pdf is that it's not editable. .docx and LaTeX are both
editable forms, with varying degrees of portability and cross platform
ness.

If you want to create something where others contribute changes (like a
user manual) then pdf isn't great. As others have noted, .docx is "sort
of" supported across a wide variety of readers (LibreOffice, Mac
TextEdit) - The problem I've found is that the stuff you really want to
control (page layout, tables, and image management) is the part that
breaks first. Such is life.

There are long wars about preferences for LaTeX vs MSWord, and a lot
depends on the community you come from. Academia in the physical
sciences or math - probably LaTeX; Academia in other fields - probably
Word; Industry in general - Word; US Government - Word. Cloud apps like
overleaf make working with LaTeX easier, but does require an internet
connection. There are WYSIWYG LaTeX editors out there too.

I've not had great success with various Wiki or Markdown approaches for
tutorial or reference material. Something about it causes it to
gradually degrade in formatting or to become disorganized. Pretty
rapidly, most wikis become a place where the information you need is
"somewhere" but it's hard to figure out where. Same applies to large
document repositories - I guess this is why editors and curators are
necessary, because the search engines tend to find too little or too much.


Probably what is best in the long run is how some papers are being
published - pdf or html for the text, with separate discrete files for
the images and/or tables. You can read it easily with the pdf, but if
you want to pull the full resolution figure, or import the tabular data,
it's available. My own preference is that if you used software to
generate the data plots, can you provide the data and the software code
used for the plot (usually Matlab or Python). That makes it possible to
regenerate the plot, or add data to it, or add markings, which is often
handy.










Re: USING THE NANOVNA AND SAVER TO MEASURE CM ATTENUATION THROUGH CMCs

 

Both Open Office and Libre Office (free programs) can open docx files.

Zack

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 9:52 AM Roy J. Tellason, Sr. <roy@...>
wrote:

On Tuesday 02 February 2021 01:14:53 pm Joe St. Clair AF5MH wrote:
I suggest that you convert the document to PDF format. The .docx format
seems to be problematic on non-Microsoft systems.

Agreed. I _can_ open those docx files, but won't for the most part
bother...


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ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies.
--James
M Dakin





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spreading information far and wide, usefully

 

On 2/3/21 7:40 AM, Manfred Mornhinweg wrote:
I was also opening these docx files in OpenOffice, on my good old Windows XP. But like Jean-Denis comments, the format gets screwed up, the colums don't align.

Using PDF is much better. Probably pretty much any computer and similar device in the world has a PDF reader installed, that works well. And most text processors can write PDF files directly, and for those that cannot, it's easy enough to print to a PDF conversion utility. So their is no good reason to distribute text files in the internal formats of specific text processor programs.
we're sort of getting off nanovna here, so if the moderators want to kill it, fine.

The problem with pdf is that it's not editable. .docx and LaTeX are both editable forms, with varying degrees of portability and cross platform ness.

If you want to create something where others contribute changes (like a user manual) then pdf isn't great.? As others have noted, .docx is "sort of" supported across a wide variety of readers (LibreOffice, Mac TextEdit)? - The problem I've found is that the stuff you really want to control (page layout, tables, and image management) is the part that breaks first. Such is life.

There are long wars about preferences for LaTeX vs MSWord, and a lot depends on the community you come from. Academia in the physical sciences or math - probably LaTeX; Academia in other fields - probably Word; Industry in general - Word; US Government - Word. Cloud apps like overleaf make working with LaTeX easier, but does require an internet connection. There are WYSIWYG LaTeX editors out there too.

I've not had great success with various Wiki or Markdown approaches for tutorial or reference material. Something about it causes it to gradually degrade in formatting or to become disorganized.?? Pretty rapidly, most wikis become a place where the information you need is "somewhere" but it's hard to figure out where. Same applies to large document repositories - I guess this is why editors and curators are necessary, because the search engines tend to find too little or too much.


Probably what is best in the long run is how some papers are being published - pdf or html for the text, with separate discrete files for the images and/or tables. You can read it easily with the pdf, but if you want to pull the full resolution figure, or import the tabular data, it's available. My own preference is that if you used software to generate the data plots, can you provide the data and the software code used for the plot (usually Matlab or Python).? That makes it possible to regenerate the plot, or add data to it, or add markings, which is often handy.


Re: USING THE NANOVNA AND SAVER TO MEASURE CM ATTENUATION THROUGH CMCs

 

On Tuesday 02 February 2021 01:17:23 pm David Eckhardt wrote:
oooops. When I send them to the files section, I shall do so. Thanks
for the suggestion. I thought Apple could read .docx files. Are we back
to Apple vs. IBM? Humbug......
I've run nothing but linux here since 1999...

--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin


Re: USING THE NANOVNA AND SAVER TO MEASURE CM ATTENUATION THROUGH CMCs

 

On Tuesday 02 February 2021 01:14:53 pm Joe St. Clair AF5MH wrote:
I suggest that you convert the document to PDF format. The .docx format seems to be problematic on non-Microsoft systems.
Agreed. I _can_ open those docx files, but won't for the most part bother...


--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin