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NanoVNA large font feature request.

 

Was just reading about Reald's "big font overlay" feature from his
firmware, looks something like this:

[image: image.png]

This is great to have as a standard feature in all firmwares. Would also be
useful on 4" displays as well.

I know Hugen and others are on the list so just wanted to submit this as a
feature request ::)




Thanks,

Chris.


Re: NanoVNA #calibration

 

Please remember that if even if you've saved your new calibration to c1, if you power cycle the Nano, it automatically recalls c0 and you need to manually recall c1 every time you turn the unit ON

On top of that, many Nano units will power cycle when connected to USB power.?


On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 6:56 PM, Radu Bogdan Dicher<vondicher@...> wrote: Just to document this a bit better - I placed my calibration data on "c1,"
which I'm recalling (and I see on the left side of the screen, on top)
before running measurements. I calibrated for a CENTER of 10.7MHz, and a
SPAN of 1.4MHz. This was done with the cables in place, including the patch
extension (per guidelines), but my little kit that allows me to socket the
filters was not connected during calibration (I came to wonder if I should
do that).

To continue establishing the baseline of my setup, the kit has proper
termination for the filters (~330ohm) and cables (~50ohm), and also a 10pF
cap on the filters output (per Murata datasheet).


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On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 3:29 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io <vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,
Having some confidence I've completed calibration on the band of interest
to me (I think I did 10MHz to 11MHz), I am getting the same titled scan of
pretty much any number of filters I threw at this (I enclose a sample). I
am not sure if I need to return this, or request a replacement some other
way.
I contacted the seller (R&L), but it doesn't look like they have stock at
all and they haven't had any in a while.
[image: image.png]
Thank you all for you input.
Radu.

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On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:23 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I think I figured it, a bit trial and error and such. The idea seems to
be
to turn off two traces out of four and make sure the two left follow
certain inputs (LOGMAG for each CH). Past this step, it's a bit weird how
the calibration menu steps one ahead on you, making it a bit confusing as
to whether it completed the previous step or not. But it seems the traces
settle in a way that tells me the device read "itself" and calibrated
accordingly.

I'm repeating the procedure, as my 10.7MHz filters plots still lean lower
on the left side. This is across multiple filters, can't be due to them,
still think it's the device.

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:41 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I'm at the start of the calibration procedure, and I've connected both
cables on CH0 and CH1, while using the pass-through attachment ("F-F
SMA"
in the v1.1 guidelines, in my interpretation) on the other end of the
SMA
cable coming from CH0.

The menu steps are clear until step 4, which calls for a "4. SINGLE."
I'm
not sure what this is. I don't see it anywhere following/around TRACE 0
(which is there). I wonder if this is due to recent changes in the menu
structure. Or maybe I am just missing something...

Thank you all for your help.
Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you all.

Firstly - on the attachments. Paul: I guess by elimination works
great!
;)
In fact, makes complete sense and thank you.

Secondly - on the filters. Jim: yes, I am terminating the measuring
rig
properly by impedance matching (closest possible to 330ohm to filters
and
50ohm to the NanoVNA). Even after eliminating unnecessary
complications (50ohm BNC cables, SMA adapters, etc.), the filters
response
is still screwy (though much improved), and this is across multiple
filters. I assume next step on this pursuit is to recalibrate. I
assume
this is probably about as good as factory calibration, so there's not
much
to loose there.

Thirdly - on the manuals/files: Thank you for that repository, I
wasn't
aware of it!

Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:37 PM Jim Allyn - N7JA <
jim@...>
wrote:

If the filters are not properly impedance matched, they will not be
symmetrical.? In fact, the passband may be horribly distorted
compared
to
what you expect.? Further, the group delay of the filter will be
screwy,
which is important to those going for minimum distortion in their
FM
receivers.









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Re: NanoVNA #calibration

 

Just to document this a bit better - I placed my calibration data on "c1,"
which I'm recalling (and I see on the left side of the screen, on top)
before running measurements. I calibrated for a CENTER of 10.7MHz, and a
SPAN of 1.4MHz. This was done with the cables in place, including the patch
extension (per guidelines), but my little kit that allows me to socket the
filters was not connected during calibration (I came to wonder if I should
do that).

To continue establishing the baseline of my setup, the kit has proper
termination for the filters (~330ohm) and cables (~50ohm), and also a 10pF
cap on the filters output (per Murata datasheet).


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On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 3:29 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io <vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,
Having some confidence I've completed calibration on the band of interest
to me (I think I did 10MHz to 11MHz), I am getting the same titled scan of
pretty much any number of filters I threw at this (I enclose a sample). I
am not sure if I need to return this, or request a replacement some other
way.
I contacted the seller (R&L), but it doesn't look like they have stock at
all and they haven't had any in a while.
[image: image.png]
Thank you all for you input.
Radu.

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On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:23 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I think I figured it, a bit trial and error and such. The idea seems to
be
to turn off two traces out of four and make sure the two left follow
certain inputs (LOGMAG for each CH). Past this step, it's a bit weird how
the calibration menu steps one ahead on you, making it a bit confusing as
to whether it completed the previous step or not. But it seems the traces
settle in a way that tells me the device read "itself" and calibrated
accordingly.

I'm repeating the procedure, as my 10.7MHz filters plots still lean lower
on the left side. This is across multiple filters, can't be due to them,
still think it's the device.

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:41 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I'm at the start of the calibration procedure, and I've connected both
cables on CH0 and CH1, while using the pass-through attachment ("F-F
SMA"
in the v1.1 guidelines, in my interpretation) on the other end of the
SMA
cable coming from CH0.

The menu steps are clear until step 4, which calls for a "4. SINGLE."
I'm
not sure what this is. I don't see it anywhere following/around TRACE 0
(which is there). I wonder if this is due to recent changes in the menu
structure. Or maybe I am just missing something...

Thank you all for your help.
Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you all.

Firstly - on the attachments. Paul: I guess by elimination works
great!
;)
In fact, makes complete sense and thank you.

Secondly - on the filters. Jim: yes, I am terminating the measuring
rig
properly by impedance matching (closest possible to 330ohm to filters
and
50ohm to the NanoVNA). Even after eliminating unnecessary
complications (50ohm BNC cables, SMA adapters, etc.), the filters
response
is still screwy (though much improved), and this is across multiple
filters. I assume next step on this pursuit is to recalibrate. I
assume
this is probably about as good as factory calibration, so there's not
much
to loose there.

Thirdly - on the manuals/files: Thank you for that repository, I
wasn't
aware of it!

Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:37 PM Jim Allyn - N7JA <
jim@...>
wrote:

If the filters are not properly impedance matched, they will not be
symmetrical. In fact, the passband may be horribly distorted
compared
to
what you expect. Further, the group delay of the filter will be
screwy,
which is important to those going for minimum distortion in their
FM
receivers.









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Re: NanoVNA #calibration

 

Hi all,
Having some confidence I've completed calibration on the band of interest
to me (I think I did 10MHz to 11MHz), I am getting the same titled scan of
pretty much any number of filters I threw at this (I enclose a sample). I
am not sure if I need to return this, or request a replacement some other
way.
I contacted the seller (R&L), but it doesn't look like they have stock at
all and they haven't had any in a while.
[image: image.png]
Thank you all for you input.
Radu.

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On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:23 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io <vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I think I figured it, a bit trial and error and such. The idea seems to be
to turn off two traces out of four and make sure the two left follow
certain inputs (LOGMAG for each CH). Past this step, it's a bit weird how
the calibration menu steps one ahead on you, making it a bit confusing as
to whether it completed the previous step or not. But it seems the traces
settle in a way that tells me the device read "itself" and calibrated
accordingly.

I'm repeating the procedure, as my 10.7MHz filters plots still lean lower
on the left side. This is across multiple filters, can't be due to them,
still think it's the device.

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:41 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

I'm at the start of the calibration procedure, and I've connected both
cables on CH0 and CH1, while using the pass-through attachment ("F-F SMA"
in the v1.1 guidelines, in my interpretation) on the other end of the SMA
cable coming from CH0.

The menu steps are clear until step 4, which calls for a "4. SINGLE." I'm
not sure what this is. I don't see it anywhere following/around TRACE 0
(which is there). I wonder if this is due to recent changes in the menu
structure. Or maybe I am just missing something...

Thank you all for your help.
Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:14 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io
<vondicher=
[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you all.

Firstly - on the attachments. Paul: I guess by elimination works great!
;)
In fact, makes complete sense and thank you.

Secondly - on the filters. Jim: yes, I am terminating the measuring rig
properly by impedance matching (closest possible to 330ohm to filters
and
50ohm to the NanoVNA). Even after eliminating unnecessary
complications (50ohm BNC cables, SMA adapters, etc.), the filters
response
is still screwy (though much improved), and this is across multiple
filters. I assume next step on this pursuit is to recalibrate. I assume
this is probably about as good as factory calibration, so there's not
much
to loose there.

Thirdly - on the manuals/files: Thank you for that repository, I wasn't
aware of it!

Radu.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:37 PM Jim Allyn - N7JA <
jim@...>
wrote:

If the filters are not properly impedance matched, they will not be
symmetrical. In fact, the passband may be horribly distorted
compared
to
what you expect. Further, the group delay of the filter will be
screwy,
which is important to those going for minimum distortion in their FM
receivers.









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Re: NanoVNA 10k-1.5GHz Antenna Network Analyzer?

 

I purchased the H4 from Alibaba. I'm very satisfied. It was $70 USD delivered in less than a month.

The vendor was recomended by a microwave group I'm a member of.

?___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO?

On May 23, 2020, 11:12, at 11:12, Dave B <davebullockmbe@...> wrote:

I am looking for a nanoVNA that will cover 23cms band and has a larger
screen that my old eyes can see :-(
At the moment, there are several Ebay sellers offering what appears to
be the 4" screen 1.5GHz version of the nanoVNA at a very attractive
price? (attached screen grab)
The pictured device claims to be a 4.2 Version (I assume they mean
firmware?) so seems pretty current?
However they call it an Antenna Network Analyser rather than VNA.
I am sure I read on this group that when upgrading the firmware there
is VNA, and a separate Antenna Analyser firmware.
Also there is a spelling mistake in the on-screen menu :- MARKER is
spelled MARKEY leading me to suspect it is a clone?
I would welcome all your experienced advice and advice please :-

1) Has anyone purchased one of these devices recently off Ebay ?
2) Is it running the full VNA firmware ie. Logmag, Phase, Delay,
Smith, SWR, etc?
3) Does it have the full input screening?
4) is it a Hugen device or a clone?
5) how well does it work at 1296MHz

Having bought a cheap nanoVNA only to discover is was rated as a BAD
clone on this forum (and spent today adding screening cans to 'tame'
the input noise), I thought I had better get some advice from you
before making the same mistake again.
Thanks in anticipation.....
Dave



NanoVNA 10k-1.5GHz Antenna Network Analyzer?

 

I am looking for a nanoVNA that will cover 23cms band and has a larger screen that my old eyes can see :-(
At the moment, there are several Ebay sellers offering what appears to be the 4" screen 1.5GHz version of the nanoVNA at a very attractive price? (attached screen grab)
The pictured device claims to be a 4.2 Version (I assume they mean firmware?) so seems pretty current?
However they call it an Antenna Network Analyser rather than VNA.
I am sure I read on this group that when upgrading the firmware there is VNA, and a separate Antenna Analyser firmware.
Also there is a spelling mistake in the on-screen menu :- MARKER is spelled MARKEY leading me to suspect it is a clone?
I would welcome all your experienced advice and advice please :-

1) Has anyone purchased one of these devices recently off Ebay ?
2) Is it running the full VNA firmware ie. Logmag, Phase, Delay, Smith, SWR, etc?
3) Does it have the full input screening?
4) is it a Hugen device or a clone?
5) how well does it work at 1296MHz

Having bought a cheap nanoVNA only to discover is was rated as a BAD clone on this forum (and spent today adding screening cans to 'tame' the input noise), I thought I had better get some advice from you before making the same mistake again.
Thanks in anticipation.....
Dave


Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !

 

I agree with you. My problem was how to modify this ratio into the NanoVNA firmware; thanks to DiSlord, who modified the code with "my" oscillator value and giving to me the modified dfu file,

i was able to upgrade my NanoVNA with this file and get a very acceptable 1 ppm error instead of the previous -85.5 ppm.

Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 19:20, avvidclif a ¨¦crit?:
That's the method HP uses in a lot of their gear. They use a very stable TCXO and to calibrate the frequency you change the divide by ratio. On my 8920 to calibrate the frequency you input a 10MHz frequency from a standard (GPS or whatever) and it compares the 2 and then changes the divide by on the internal oscillator (which doesn't run at 10 MHz) to match the reference. Very easy this way, no tweaking.


Re: Homebrew sheilding

 

Hello Dave,
The screen shots you appended show just a quarter of thr screen.
I think you wanted to append the whole screen size of the nanoVNA.
I thought you have already seen that.
73, Rudi DL5FA


Re: Homebrew sheilding

 

Hi Rudi what did you wish to know?
My nanoVNA was the 'BAD' clone without screening cans over the input stages
and exhibited unwanted vectors due to noise pickup when is Smith Chart mode.
Since adding the cans the noise is cured :-)
Dave

On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 17:05, <reuterr@...> wrote:

Hello Dave,
Your screen shots does *not* tell the whole story.
72, Rudi DL5FA




Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !

 

That's the method HP uses in a lot of their gear. They use a very stable TCXO and to calibrate the frequency you change the divide by ratio. On my 8920 to calibrate the frequency you input a 10MHz frequency from a standard (GPS or whatever) and it compares the 2 and then changes the divide by on the internal oscillator (which doesn't run at 10 MHz) to match the reference. Very easy this way, no tweaking.


Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !

 

Why not ?

As i want to replace my oscillator in the future, a good idea

to reverse to a new value !

Thank you one more time and all the best.

Rudi

Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 18:38, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Good, possibly in future i add command for allow user set this correction.


Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !

 

Good, possibly in future i add command for allow user set this correction.


Re: Homebrew sheilding

 

Hello Dave,
Your screen shots does *not* tell the whole story.
72, Rudi DL5FA


Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !

 

BINGO !

After upgrading with your DFU file, i enter 100MHz in "CW" mode and

get 100.00010 MHz at the GPS locked frequency meter.

1 ppm instead of the initial -85.5 ppm !

Fine Job DiSlord and many thanks for your help and DFU file !

Best regards,

Rudi

Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 17:14, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Select target id
00 Internal Flash 64 sectors or

And press Upload


Re: I produced S-A-A V2.2 #nanovna-v2

 

I suggest you launch a kit for those who bought and did not have a small display.
Case + display module 4 inches + firmware.


Re: Frequency error

 

Select target id
00 Internal Flash 64 sectors or

And press Upload


Re: Frequency error

 

Then you upload file from NanoVNA programm read all flash 128kB and save to file
Then formware created, not used space not stored to file. 82kB correct file size

Yes it Ok


Re: Frequency error

 

After reading the option "01", seems that you dfu file should be written into target option "00" (internal flash 64 sectors).

A 2nd point: NanoVNA v0.8.4.6 Xtail 25997748.dfu is 82 Ko but the uploaded file from my NanoVNA is 129 Ko , is this ok ?

Rudi

Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 10:43, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Try this firmware, just quick build vs XTALFREQ 25997748


Re: Frequency error

 

Hi DiSlord,

I installed DfuSe, connected to the NanoVNA after "Reset and enter DFU" activated;

on the DfuSe screen i have 2 Targets options:

-1- 00 Internal Flash 64 sectors or

-2- 01 Option Bytes??? 1 sector.

What is the correct target ?

Thank you for your help.

Rudi

Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 10:43, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Try this firmware, just quick build vs XTALFREQ 25997748


NanoVNA-V2 Support Page

 

A new technical support page for the NanoVNA-V2 is available at . I believe Gabriel posted here, or elsewhere, that the NanoRFE Foundation will be taking over the production of the V2. There is an "about us" page that gives details about the NanoRFE Foundation.

- Herb