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Re: SMITH CHART REACTANCE LINES.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 05:00 AM, hwalker wrote:
Herb, please explain the advantage of using the pF and nF format. When I am trying to calculate LC-match, for instance in MMANA-GAL, I need to use R+/-jX format. See screenshot. That's why I prefer NanoVHA-Q firmware. The way to read jX value, is to set one of the CH0 traces to "REACTANCE". |
Re: A Capsule Summary of Nonfictional VNA Measurements
Dear Jeff,
Thank you, very much indeed, for this; we much appreciate it! Well, we will try sometime to reproduce your MatLab code in Maxima. By the way, allow us, please, to publicly express our admiration for your Dedicated Work, with which we acquainted after we discovered your Prototype Article about: "Modifying a 75 ohm HP 85046B S-Parameter Test Set to be 50 ohms": which encouraged us to attempt a successful repair of HP-IB in our HP 8505A - hence, we would also like to thank you for this valuable contribution by you. Kind regards, gin&pez@arg |
Re: A Capsule Summary of Nonfictional VNA Measurements - ERRATUM
Instead of the wrong:
G = S(L-O)(gs+lo) + L(O-S)(gl+os) + O(S-L)(go+sl) / / [ (L-O)(gs+lo) + (O-S)(gl+os) + (S-L)(go+sl) ] the correct one: G = [ S(L-O)(gs+lo) + L(O-S)(gl+os) + O(S-L)(go+sl) ] / / [ (L-O)(gs+lo) + (O-S)(gl+os) + (S-L)(go+sl) ] |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 05:33 AM, Merle W wrote:
" I also have the c connector issue. Had to remove some plastic." "Tried your firmware issue and my unit hangs as well. The center freq did show up correctly though." ============================================================== Merle, Thanks for confirming both the usb case opening and center frequency hang up issues. Also glad you found the review useful. If no one else makes a report, then I will submit both of these issues to hugen at his GitHub page. I'm happy to have my hands on the 4" NanoVNA-H4 and can deal with a few warts knowing hugen will address them in a timely matter. First soldiers into battle catch the most flack. - Herb |
Re: A Capsule Summary of Nonfictional VNA Measurements
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 03:46 PM, gin&pez@arg wrote:
For clarification, I will note that the standard VNA error-correction equations reduce down to this same equation (that I've quoted, above) if we assume the reflection coefficients of the Short, Load, and Open standards are exactly -1, 0, 1. MATLAB can easily demonstrate this: % One-port VNA Calibration, k6jca % % Find the equations for the three error terms: e00, e11, and delta_e % Derived from the equations in: % Network Analyzer Error Models and Calibration Methods, % by Doug Rytting, Agilent Technologies % % And then find the equation for an Unknown load's actual % Gamma, based upon these three error terms and the measured % Gamma of the unknown. % Definitions: % ------------ % G1 = -1 = Actual Gamma of Standard 1 (short) % G2 = 0 = Actual Gamma of Standard 2 (load) % G3 = 1 = Actual Gamma of Standard 3 (open) % G = Actual Gamma of Unknown % % s = Measured Gamma of Standard 1 % l = Measured Gamma of Standard 2 % o = Measured Gamma of Standard 3 % g = Measured Gamma of Unknown syms G g s l o e00 e11 d_e [e00,e11,d_e] = solve(e00+e11*(-1)*s-d_e*(-1) == s,... e00+e11*(0)*s-d_e*(0) == l,... e00+e11*(1)*o-d_e*(1) == o,[e00,e11,d_e]) [G] = solve((g-e00)/(g*e11 - d_e) == G,[G]) The results of this MATLAB script are:: e00 = l e11 = (o - 2*l + s)/(o - s) d_e = -(l*o + l*s - 2*o*s)/(o - s) G = (g*o - g*s - l*o + l*s)/(g*o - 2*g*l + g*s + l*o + l*s - 2*o*s) Note that this last equation is the same as your equation that I've quoted, above, expanded. Best regards, - Jeff, k6jca P.S. The MATLAB code, above, is based upon the MATLAB code in this post: |
BTW, for those who are into modding their NanoVNA - you can also make your original unit go into DFU mode the same way as the new H4 model:
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- Add a jumper wire from the BOOT0 pin on the CPU over to the centre pin on the jog switch (refer to attached H4 schematic) - Change R5 to 1K ohm (same as H4) - DONE - I changed my unit - no need for a separate jumper now to go into DFU. Now you can go into DFU mode as mentioned below. On Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 8:26:54 a.m. GMT-5, Larry Rothman <nlroth@...> wrote:
The DFU mode is entered by turning OFF the unit, pressing in and holding the selector switch and then turning the unit ON. Then, release the switch. ? ? On Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 8:22:32 a.m. GMT-5, Jos Stevens <jrs@...> wrote: Why ofcourse Herb ? DFU mode is replaced by "Brightness" and I remember to have seen DFU mode passing by, but can't find it back now, please how to entyer DFU mode, I tried a long press? af the swith, but no luck. Jos Op 22-1-2020 om 10:58 schreef hwalker: On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:17 AM, Oristo wrote: |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
Herb,
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Thanks for the reply, then? it starts up with a black screen then, but when you connect it to the PC? you hear the wellknown sound and DFUse recognises it correctly. I had no need to use DFU, because the device was loaded with the latest firmware when it arrived by DHL yesterday, it came 10 days after ordering at Alibaba. Not bad .? Now I am going to see what it does via NanaVNA-Saver I had some problems at first start of this program yesterday. Jos Op 22-1-2020 om 14:22 schreef Jos Stevens: Why ofcourse Herb ? DFU mode is replaced by "Brightness" and I remember to have seen DFU mode passing by, but can't find it back now, please how to entyer DFU mode, I tried a long press? af the swith, but no luck. |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
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Very nice report. I also have the c connector issue. Had to remove some plastic. Tried your firmware issue and my unit hangs as well. The center freq did show up correctly though. Merle On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:26 AM hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:
A number of members have annouced the arrival of their 4" NanoVNA-H4. Mine |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
The DFU mode is entered by turning OFF the unit, pressing in and holding the selector switch and then turning the unit ON.Then release the switch.
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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 8:22:32 a.m. GMT-5, Jos Stevens <jrs@...> wrote:
Why ofcourse Herb ? DFU mode is replaced by "Brightness" and I remember to have seen DFU mode passing by, but can't find it back now, please how to entyer DFU mode, I tried a long press? af the swith, but no luck. Jos Op 22-1-2020 om 10:58 schreef hwalker: On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:17 AM, Oristo wrote: |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
Why ofcourse Herb ? DFU mode is replaced by "Brightness" and I remember to have seen DFU mode passing by, but can't find it back now, please how to entyer DFU mode, I tried a long press? af the swith, but no luck.
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Jos Op 22-1-2020 om 10:58 schreef hwalker: On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:17 AM, Oristo wrote: |
Re: *** FIX FOR NANOVNA-SAVER PYQT5 INSTALLATION PROBLEMS ON LINUX MINT 19.3 ***
#nanovna-saver
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 07:50 PM, Bob Larkin wrote:
Not so on a 32-bit PC with 18.04.Hi Bob thanks for pointing this out. It's not a bug... "Wheels are the standard Python packaging format for pure Python or binary extension modules such as PyQt5. Only Python v3.5 and later are supported. Wheels are provide for 32- and 64-bit Windows, 64-bit macOS and 64-bit Linux." There is no wheel file for 32 bit PyQt5 that pip can use. So trying to install it using pip will fail. Read the instructions for building and bundling PyQt5 and decided life too short! Your workaround using PyQt5 v5.10.1 from the Ubuntu repo (post #10010) is probably best for 32-bit. Will update the .pdf and wiki to qualify fix is 64-bit only. 73 Nick G3VNC |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:17 AM, Oristo wrote:
" You may be able to capture screens by modifying Specifically, replace 320 and 240 at lines 46 and 73 with pixel dimensions of NanoVNA-H4 display, and COM3 at line 11." Hi Oristo, I fell back on your script after Rune's module stopped working. Changing the script to: b = ser.read(320 * 480 * 2) x = struct.unpack(">153600H", b) Resulted in a correctly colored, but double overlayed image. I wanted to get a review out and so did not work on the script further. Note: other parts of the script were changed as appropriate (or at least to my understanding) for 320x480 resolution. The resolution comes from hugen's product specification and I'm assuming is correct. " If someone can describe menu changes or point to an image for printed NanoVNA-H4 Menu Structure Map, I will create and updated map for /g/nanovna-users/wiki/User-Guides ." The included Menu Structure Map (see attachment) was the same as for the NanoVNA-H v3.4 and was not updated for the NanoVNA-H4. For example, it shows ">DFU" option under CONFIG and of course the NanoVNA_H4 does not use this method to enter DFU mode. - Herb |
Re: Improving the performance of a pre-V3.4 original Hugen nanoVNA
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:37 AM, Jim Allyn - N7JA wrote:
, "You know how you can tell who the pioneers are?? They're the ones with the arrows in their backs."I agree that the best is the enemy of the good! :-) But if you can 't, but you really want to, you can! :-) Hi Hi Thanks! |
Re: Improving the performance of a pre-V3.4 original Hugen nanoVNA
On 1/21/20 10:15 PM, Andy UA3RAW wrote:
Hello, dear friends! ???? I'm in no rush to mod mine.? It seems to work fairly well, so I'm going to wait until others have tried the various mods and figured out what works and what doesn't.? Years ago, an employer of mine used to say, "You know how you can tell who the pioneers are?? They're the ones with the arrows in their backs." |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
Hi Herb -
Because of the increased screen resolution, Rune's screen capture module inYou may be able to capture screens by modifying Specifically, replace 320 and 240 at lines 46 and 73 with pixel dimensions of NanoVNA-H4 display, and COM3 at line 11. A printed Menu Structure Map is included in the package but is basically the same menu map that is available on this group's wiki page.If someone can describe menu changes or point to an image for printed NanoVNA-H4 Menu Structure Map, I will create and updated map for /g/nanovna-users/wiki/User-Guides |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
" I always assume operator error before submitting a software issue."
More importantly, just one measurement is not a measurement. My ePacket has already moved on, I hope to get here next week. 73, Gyula HA3HZ |
Re: Review of NanoVNA-H4
#nanovna-h4
Herb,
Excellent report. Thanks for taking the time to write this up... Roger |
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