Re: MY CMC MEASUREMENT
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You did not get power correctly :) P=Vrms^2/R, so if you have Vpp=175V (peak to peak), Vmax=Vpp/2=87.5V and Vrms=Vmax/sqrt2=87.5/1.41=62V and P=77W on 50ohm load
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Miro, N9LR
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#20534
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
Hi, Thanks for the clarification, do you think this is due to the PVC itself absorbing water, or just moisture in the air? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL
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Dave (NK7Z)
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#20533
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
Yes - I think probably more due to porosity and filler than the actual PVC itself. If you go look up a plastics table, PVC is in the "generally non-hygroscopic" bucket (like PE, PP and PS) However, in
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Jim Lux
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Re: PROCEDURES for MEASURING DM LOSS and CM ATTENUATION of CMCs
Ed, if you have S21 in terms of magnitude and phase, calculation of the series impedance of the device being measured is straight forward: Zdut = Zo*((2/S21) - 2), where Zo = 50 ohms for a 50-ohm VNC.
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Jeff Anderson
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
I am referring to the line: "It's also fairly hygroscopic..." Is this referring to PVC? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
Jim, it was quite interesting to watch the PVC-wound CMC 'do its thing'. I certainly didn't need 2.4 GHz, just 40-meters at 400-watts. It was really rather fascinating to watch the SWR climb with
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W0LEV
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
yes, it's kind of like nylon in that way, and unlike, say polyethylene, PTFE, or polypropylene, which "as delivered" tend to be fairly hydrophobic. From what I understand, depending on what kind of
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Jim Lux
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
Are you referring to PVC here? 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
PVC has a low melting/softening point, so it's sensitive to these kinds of effects. It's also fairly hygroscopic, but I doubt mois
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Jim Lux
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#20526
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Great! ...Larry
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Larry Rothman
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Sucess !!! Thanks Larry, I downloaded 1.0.45, and followed the same steps I did before and it loaded fine with the original DFU app....somehow the 1.0.39 must have been kludged somewhere....
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Jamie WW3S
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Re: CMC MEASUREMENTS - PDF'ed & SIZE REDUCED
Very nice compilation! So what is up with the PVC insulation? I know that PVC is particularly bad in terms of dissipation factor - but is it insulation self heating or just getting melted by a hot
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Gary Rondeau <grondeau@...>
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Many thanks for the link to that document... I just ordered a NanoVNA, and am getting ready for it. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist,
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: PROCEDURES for MEASURING DM LOSS and CM ATTENUATION of CMCs
For a different perspective, G3TXQ's Common-mode Choke webpage discusses why reactive (e.g. inductive) common-mode chokes are undesirable, and he gives an example of an inductive common-mode choke
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Jeff Anderson
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#20521
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Jamie, I think you've overwritten the existing copy with a dump from your device. Delete the firmware you're trying to update with and get a new copy from the files section of the forum - use 1.0.45
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Larry Rothman
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Yea, tried that, no joy....followed the W2AEW YouTube video ( mine is exactly like his), works great, until I restart, still says 0.5.0.....I¡¯m going to try Larry¡¯s modified GUI next....thanks...l
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Jamie WW3S
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#20519
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Re: upgrading firmware?
Jamie, It's in the Misc folder: /g/nanovna-users/files/Miscellaneous Rename the original defuse.exe to defuse.orig.exe and then drop in the modified one - there are two: One with
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Larry Rothman
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Re: upgrading firmware?
See Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_6.pdf, page 49. The PDF file is in the file section . 73 Martin 9A2JK
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9A2JK
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Re: PROCEDURES for MEASURING DM LOSS and CM ATTENUATION of CMCs
Ed, unfortunately I did not measure that parameter. Most of the readers are just interested in dB attenuation so I didn't measure the complex impedance. However, the inductance of the CMC is
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W0LEV
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Re: PROCEDURES for MEASURING DM LOSS and CM ATTENUATION of CMCs
Great work Dave. Thanks for your continuing contribution to our great hobby. Do you have in your stash a piece on conversion of dB attenuation to Zs= Rs + Xs ? 73, Ed McCann AG6CX
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AG6CX
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