Re: U.FL/MMC tools Re: [nanovna-users] RF Demo Kit for NanoVNA H4?
#nanovna-h4
The additional sticker shock is (always) Sparkfun's shipping costs unless you spend 100 bucks with them. That alone keeps me from hardly ever ordering from them.
I do enough work with u.fl's that I decided I absolutely needed one of those tools, and the best price I found, including shipping (quality of tool TBD) was here:
With shipping to FL, just over 20 bucks...more than I ever expected for a tool like this, but definitely cheaper than most.
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I have different nanoVNA types, and I find myself using the SAA-2N model most frequently. I got mine from R&L Electronics (USA vendor).
I also use my LibreVNA in my work, but it is in a different class of instrument (full two-port, 6GHz) which is not-self-contained, and only included for information.
73, Don N2VGU
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Hello John,
I have a NanoVNA-F which has a 4.3" IPS screen. Very easy to read outside compared to the -H4.
The NanoVNA-F by Deepelec has a new replacement, the DeepVNA-101.
Basically the same hardware as the latest -F but has a rotary encoder instead of buttons or jogwheel. Much easier to use up a ladder or tower:-)
It also has a Real Time Clock which the -F does not have. This timestamps the saved files. The -H4 also has an RTC I believe.
The -H4 has an SD card slot, the -F uses dedicated onboard memory to store files.
Firmware updating is much easier on the -F than on the -H4.
Leon does not update his -F firmware as often as DiSlord does for the -H4, so if you want bleeding edge firmware, go with the -H4.
Both units can be connected to a PC using either the NanoVNA-App or NanoVNA-Saver software. Both are free. Read the wikis.
I think the -F may be slightly dearer than the -H, but you would normally only buy once, so the few extra dollars are neither here nor there at the end of the day.
BUT, make sure you buy from the manufacturers recommended sites, either from China or the States.
DO NOT chase the cheapest price, you will almost certainly regret it.
Deepelec website (NanoVNA-F / DeepVNA-101):
Hugen website (Hugen NanoVNA-H4):
HTH...Bob VK2ZRE
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On 4/02/2023 1:35 pm, John Hartmus II wrote: I am considering purchasing a NanoVNA, primarily for the purpose of analyzing HF through 70 CM antennas. I want to have at least a 4" display, and I want to be able to use it in the field. Good battery life and storage are important, and the ability to connect it to a Windows laptop for detailed analysis. What is the best unit to buy without breaking the bank?
Thanks all,
John Hartmus II
WB8GRX
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On 04/02/2023 02:35, John Hartmus II wrote: I am considering purchasing a NanoVNA, primarily for the purpose of analyzing HF through 70 CM antennas. I want to have at least a 4" display, and I want to be able to use it in the field. Good battery life and storage are important, and the ability to connect it to a Windows laptop for detailed analysis. What is the best unit to buy without breaking the bank?
Thanks all,
John Hartmus II
WB8GRX John, The NanoVNA-V2plus4 and the NanoVNA-F both come in a metal enclosure which /might/ be a little more robust. The H4 while being in a plastic case is also well supported. The SV4401A has a bigger 7-inch screen, but I sent mine back feeling it was overpriced and offered little over the 4-inch units - mine had a couple of other issues. It has N connectors but they are just connected internally to SMA connectors on the board, but perhaps this is a more robust arrangement? The software is behind the others and lacks facilities on the smaller units. Can't compare battery life, sorry. 73, David GM8ARV -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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In my opinion the nanovna-H4 would suit your needs well. It is reasonably
inexpensive, covers your frequency range well, and supports the latest
firmware developments.
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 7:21 PM John Hartmus II <jhartmusii@...> wrote: I am considering purchasing a NanoVNA, primarily for the purpose of
analyzing HF through 70 CM antennas. I want to have at least a 4" display,
and I want to be able to use it in the field. Good battery life and
storage are important, and the ability to connect it to a Windows laptop
for detailed analysis. What is the best unit to buy without breaking the
bank?
Thanks all,
John Hartmus II
WB8GRX
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I am considering purchasing a NanoVNA, primarily for the purpose of analyzing HF through 70 CM antennas. I want to have at least a 4" display, and I want to be able to use it in the field. Good battery life and storage are important, and the ability to connect it to a Windows laptop for detailed analysis. What is the best unit to buy without breaking the bank?
Thanks all,
John Hartmus II
WB8GRX
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Re: NanoVNAs for Sale (3)
My apologies¡ Email address was absorbed by groups.io
Please respond to me directly at: lmcelhiney at yahoo dot com
or use the QRZ entry for AC9OX
Larry
AC9OX
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Hi Chris,
Which phone (make and model)? Which Android version?
Best,
John
Op za 21 jan. 2023 om 05:47 schreef Chris VK5SA <chris@...>:
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My Android phone has always worked with the NanoVNA app and I now get a
¡°No Device Found¡± error.
Any ideas, please?
C connector to C connector cable which works fine using NanoSaver on my
laptop, so that's not it.
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Hi Mike,
you can find more information on my website. In the beginning there were several developers, currently DiSlord who is still contributing. I recommend that you download the pdf marked with his name, it contains links where you can download the firmware. Since you are planning to do this for the first time, read on for what you need to do. Link:
In the upper left corner is the language selector, if it doesn't automatically switch to your language - you can select it here.
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Gyula HA3HZ ( )
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software??
i prefer nanovna app
easy to use ...? nice frontend
and can also be used to upgrade fw
greetz sigi
ps dislord also is the "best firmware modder" ever :-)
Am 03.02.2023 um 05:11 schrieb Mike N7ZEF:
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Howdy;
Got time to work with some of the toys I got in the past. I have an older NanoVNA I bought some time ago and decided to learn how to operate using a book on Amazon on VNA operation.
Learning lots, including some features missing like the battery icon that is supposed to be on the left side. In the section on upgrading the software, The book said if a button was missing on the screen that I had to jumper 2 points on the board (which I found) .
Question, which software should I use? When I power the VNA up it says "GEN111.TAOBAO.COM" on the screen. I am sure this is an old clone, so I am just learning before I get into the real machines I got from R&L.
Suggestions appreciated.
Mike
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Mike,
Yes, in this. You can do it somewhere else, only when you start Wine, a window opens and it's there next time.
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Gyula HA3HZ ( )
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Re: History/Purpose of SD for VNA
and now we have them modded with sd card , xtal for a clock, battery indication, 4 and even 7 inch ... some with sma and some with n connectors
with open or closed fw ...? (clones, brothers, sisters and cousins) ...from half a dozen vendors
and some are heavy modded :-) (like the 7 inch testbed from dislord.. grin)
dg9bfc sigi
Am 03.02.2023 um 17:12 schrieb Jim Lux:
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On 2/3/23 6:55 AM, billsf9c via groups.io wrote:
": the SD card receiver (slot hardware) may be installed on the motherboard inside the plastic case, depending on the date of manufacture of your board (some early boards didn't have the part installed) - but there is no external slot on any of them, unless you carve one out yourself." Stan Dye I cannot figure why an SD slot would be accommodated ALMOST from original design, be so useful, and not ever implemented.
Is this in ye olde archives?
I cannot see it as a Test Q&A, nor a great idea not implemented for lack of a coin to flip.
BillSF9c
Cost sensitive device - don't put parts in that aren't needed.
? (esp if you're trying to hit a specific target cost, like $50)
Software to drive it not yet written
?? (don't want to listen to gripes about "the pins are there, why doesn't it do this function)
Couldn't fit full size in original layout
?? (Squeezing it in the 2.3" screen with the shielding cans, etc. is hard)
Original NanoVNA had no case
?? (self explanatory)
The NanoVNA has gone through quite a few revisions over the last few years.
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Re: History/Purpose of SD for VNA
On 2/3/23 6:55 AM, billsf9c via groups.io wrote: ": the SD card receiver (slot hardware) may be installed on the motherboard inside the plastic case, depending on the date of manufacture of your board (some early boards didn't have the part installed) - but there is no external slot on any of them, unless you carve one out yourself." Stan Dye I cannot figure why an SD slot would be accommodated ALMOST from original design, be so useful, and not ever implemented.
Is this in ye olde archives?
I cannot see it as a Test Q&A, nor a great idea not implemented for lack of a coin to flip.
BillSF9c
Cost sensitive device - don't put parts in that aren't needed. (esp if you're trying to hit a specific target cost, like $50) Software to drive it not yet written (don't want to listen to gripes about "the pins are there, why doesn't it do this function) Couldn't fit full size in original layout (Squeezing it in the 2.3" screen with the shielding cans, etc. is hard) Original NanoVNA had no case (self explanatory) The NanoVNA has gone through quite a few revisions over the last few years.
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History/Purpose of SD for VNA
": the SD card receiver (slot hardware) may be installed on the motherboard inside the plastic case, depending on the date of manufacture of your board (some early boards didn't have the part installed) - but there is no external slot on any of them, unless you carve one out yourself." Stan Dye I cannot figure why an SD slot would be accommodated ALMOST from original design, be so useful, and not ever implemented. Is this in ye olde archives? I cannot see it as a Test Q&A, nor a great idea not implemented for lack of a coin to flip. BillSF9c
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Which Documentation folder did you put the .exe file in?
Was it /home/pi/Documents or Wine's virtual My Documents?
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Mike G8GYW
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 03:37 AM, Chris VK5SA wrote:
Thanks, Gyula.
I use my NanoVNAs with the nanosaver and NanoVNA-App apps on my PCs, with no
problems.
I just want to be able to go back to using them with my 'phone.
I am sure that the Linux users will be grateful for your information on that.
73s,
Chris VK5SA
Chris, the author has a github page here. This page might help: If you know this, then I must ask for your forgiveness. -- Gyula HA3HZ ( )
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Re: Email send by groups.io are bounced
Yes, we have been having trouble with Spamcop and Spamhaus for some time now. The creator of groups.io has been working with both to get them to get us off the list of blocked servers, but this has not been straightforward and is still an ongoing effort.
DaveD
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On Feb 3, 2023, at 07:25, Egbert PD0EZL via groups.io <pd0ezl@...> wrote:
?To whom it concerns,
I received a mail that my MTA (mailserver) is bouncing emails send by MTA's from groups.io
It looks like that at least 1 MTA is on the blacklist
Below a small excerpt of what is send to the MTA of groups.io
And an excerpt from my MTA logfile:
02/Feb/2023 20:29:29] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 20:31:57] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 20:38:11] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 20:46:47] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 20:55:16] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 22:41:06] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
02/Feb/2023 22:43:28] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 22:43:52] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 22:52:00] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 22:53:31] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 22:59:12] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 23:10:11] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 23:16:01] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 23:22:59] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 23:29:16] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
[02/Feb/2023 23:32:46] IP address 66.175.222.12 found in DNS blacklist SpamCop, mail from <[email protected]> to <pd0ezl@...> rejected
RDNS of the IP-address show that it is the web01.groups.io
So if somebody is missing mails, this is probably the cause.
73's
Egbert PD0EZL
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Re: U.FL/MMC tools Re: [nanovna-users] RF Demo Kit for NanoVNA H4?
#nanovna-h4
Go to the connector manufacturers web site and check their price for a connector tool. Sticker shock anyone?
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 02:18 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
we are at version 213 now ;-)
dg9bfc sigi
Sigi, it doesn't work for me. This is the last one that goes well. -- Gyula HA3HZ ( )
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