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Inlands and GP3 this autumn
Hi all, If any of the keen beans (KBs) are thinking about doing either the Inlands on the 17/18th November or GP3 at Rutland on the 1/2nd December there's a couple of things. Firstly you can just pay for day membership for the class so you don't need to cough up for a whole years association membership for one event. Just enter as normal I think via website. Any hassles speak to Sue Secondly the class had coaching at the first two GPs but that's now finished. However Sue was suggesting that she could set any kids up with a buddy system so that they can buddy up with a experienced boat so that there will be a friendly face for the kids to get to know that can help with advice boat set up etc. I think it sounds a great idea. If interested either let Sue know or speak to me. There's then another inland event at Draycote on the 2/3 Feb as well. For any KBs wanting to make a mark at nationals you probably need to be thinking about doing some of the inland national events this winter to get experience. B.
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Test for folk to post to 13
I've done this as a test post, can folk please try replying to it. First post from everyone needs approved to make sure it's not spam so if everyone can reply to this post I can then tick everyone off. Bear
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Discussion from LLSC weekend 4
Hi all, Just thought I'd try and summarise what we decided at Lomond before we all forget Hopefully got all parents in email group now. Added David Coady and David Shilling from Derwent so they know what's being discussed. I'll see what Maria is up to as well. Travellers Colin is going to draw up notice of series etc. For this sailing year Northern Series we'd try and have:- RYAS Winter Champs Largs 8/9th December Springs at Tummel 30/31st March, need to reschedule academy, Matt not keen but if a few of us pursue him we might get somewhere. Spoke to Abbie, Matt back Thursday and they'll discuss. They'd not really expected any demand to join in Springs. Asked if we can reschedule academy, ideally not at Largs GP at Largs. 24-27th May. Training 24/25th, GP 26/27th That gives us 3 with 2 to count. I still think any boats hoping to make enough impact at Pwllheli to get into Dev Team should be looking to do a weekend or two at East Lothian or similar venue so that they can cope at Pwllheli if it's a big swell. Normally at Pwllheli I'd say about a quarter of the fleet can't get round the course if swell running and so that's you definitely in silver fleet (and therefore unlikely to be in Dev Team??) If we stick at 2 from 3 then David has suggested that we exclude current DT from Northern series so that trophy goes to non squad boat because some of them might do winters and GP. ELYC regatta is early June. Largo Bay later in June but can be even trickier launching! David is going to speak to Ovi and get some prizes, last time they were very generous!! We've also got a couple of perpetual trophies that we'll get back. One is for series and one for Northern Championship, which should have been YDSC this past weekend I also think that although folk who are also doing topper travellers think 3 is enough those that are just doing 29ers might want more? Any thoughts let us know. Trouble is exam season blanks out late April - May Next year (2019/20) we'd try and persuade RYA to run event at Scottish Club Trophy, zones, Yorkshire Dales, Winters, Springs and a GP. Hoping to try and get a GP at Sunderland or Yorkshire Dales. Once national events sorted we can fit Northern stuff in. I'd also put in a shout for the Windward/Leeward event at the Tay. March/April training Try and run a few flexible weekends at whatever club suits. Can be coached or just free sail. Tay has rib cover on Saturday and runs two races on Sundays in April so I'd suggest it's a good first option and folk can leave boats and just do odd days that suit. Keep Fosters boat there so any keen newbies can try out. Needs to be coached session with boat to keep some control. Tummel Week 20st-26th July Folk seemed to think this was a good idea. We could do both early transition and pre nationals training sessions. Two races per day I think is new format, 11AM and 4PM so fit coaching around that. Club would be delighted to see us. I said if we'd more than 3-4 boats we'd man a rib because they only have one rib to cover all the other boats. They also have 3rd rib that we could use for coaching for weekend/during week. One or two parents do house parent role and kids all camp. Communal food on a few nights provided by club. Get along Foster's boat and Ovi class 29er so got two 29ers for newcomers to try out and maybe get some coaching. Sell it to newcomers this spring as an ideal chance if they get boat by then to get a lot of time on the water with help/coaching on hand. Ideal introduction to 29ering while it's warm. I'll speak to Ovi re class boat Foster's boat Susan might take on the booking out of this. I've to investigate insurance first. GP Largs We're going to need as many bodies as possible to help out with this. Largs is giving us club house and that's about it. RYAS might run academy Friday/Saturday which will give us ribs. Also perhaps on the water transition coaching during GP itself perhaps. GP is on Sunday/Monday. Geography and Mandarin exams are the issues. I've got Niall booked to coach at present but will need to speak to Abbie Treasurer Fergal taking this on, David will liaise with him. Social media. Andy Robertson is going to take this on. Catherine volunteered him!! Training Bear organizing, he's also still 29er Scottish rep on national committee. Class association Can I just ask that everyone joins up to the class in January, at the moment we've only got 3 members in Scotland and that makes it tricky campaigning for GPs north of Rutland! I've asked Lisa if anyone doing Rutland GP can they leave joining until next year but not got answer back yet. Anything else? Sorry my email is so long!!! Bear
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THIS SUNDAY (11th) 17
Just wondering what folk are up to this Sunday and whether they want to meet up - Forecast is good so the kids could get a decent amount of time on the water. Alastair and Sam are definitely wanting to get out and we are willing to travel if it means getting several boats out on the water at the same time - What are the DBSC sailors all up to? Richard
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Qustions re GP format for 2019/20 4
Hi all, Sue is asking what the class could do to make it more accessible from the north. What would be our top 3 wishes as it were, they not saying they'd do them but they certainly like to accommodate as much as possible. She also had a few suggestions for other things they might be able to do. Need to give them feed back by Sunday night so can have chat with folk that are Tay tomorrow, if others can either email or give me a buzz by tomorrow with any wish list items. There's a GP series that used to be 6 from 8 that was impossible to do from Scotland. We've now got a series which is 4 from 6. Initially old committee was very resistant but it's actually been a success nationally. There's then a series of one off events inland, winters, sprints. Ideally they'd like all the GPs to be on the sea because that's what the sailors want but if it helped they'd look at making Rutland a GP. given that it's a lot closer to us. To then do four events you'd do say the squad selector in early September which will be always be at Weymouth, Rutland, a GP at either Pwllheli/Sunderland/Largs and then you'd need to do one more out of Weymouth, Stokes Bay, Torquay. Weymouth going to twice because limited number of sea venues with enough deep water not to break masts!! The question Sue has asked is do we think having Rutland as GP would make it more likely that Northern boats would join in the GP circuit. David and I reckon it's a pretty good compromise and we'd be in favour of saying a definite yes please but I'd said I'd canvas opinions. We also want to have a viable northern race circuit so we don't want to loose boats to too many events down south. The argument a couple of years ago was that the GP overall didn't matter. They then asked the kids and they said it was really important to them and they really measured how much they'd improved by position in GP overall. Sue has also said she options such as having WPNSA followed by training weekend followed by second GP at WPNSA could be looked at. She's then look at ways of picking up kids from airports to save drives etc. I'm not sure it helps that much. She's also offered to look at setting up a boat transporting set up if folk wanting to leave a boat down south and get it taken to events. If anyone can see any benefit in either of these let us know. Bear
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Tummel Week for 29ers 10
Can I just check with folk what their thoughts are re 29ers joining in with Tummel Week. Need enough of a core group doing it with some adults to make it a goer before I can book it up with class so can folk confirm if interested and what adult help they could supply. Plan would be to try and get 2-3 class 29ers for newcomers to sail. 29er class is really keen to help out, Sue reckons it's a fab idea, and they will look to send up Niall again or similar coach to run what I'm calling Cat and Evie sessions. Niall took them from complete rookies through to having a ball in a force 4 in the space of a weekend and I think that's what we want to offer. So could have 3 boats doing that over weekend. Could then potentially have say 6 doing it part time during week, couple of short session am and pm. So that potentially gives us nine two day sessions at the end of which 18 kids would be able to sail a 29er and have had a lot of fun. Ideally that would hook them and force parents to go down 29er route. If breezy some of our gang could crew/helm for newbies to get them up the curve a bit faster. For the newbies doing it part time during week they'd join in with Tummel week in junior boats in between times, hopefully siblings/parents as well so they'd all become part of the crew socially as well. Ideally some transitioning sailors would have bought boats by then knowing they could get 6 days of training in the summer at an easy location to start 29ering at. Anna/Ben or similar would run a couple of sessions each day for the transitioning sailors with own boats and a couple of sessions for our sailors for race/pre nationals training. In between sailors could take part in TW races. Also hill walking, cycling etc between races. There's then Total Wipe-out, board-walk, BBQ, bonfires, island race etc to make it a fun week as well as the sailing. It's week before Oppy nationals and couple of weeks before toppers so junior sailors doing final nationals can join in, also after first two cheap weeks of hols for those going away. Some oppys might not manage end of week? We'd try and target it initially at the most likely juniors via Abbie, including some of this years 420 sailors, think they might be thinking they'd like some mates! Ideally have it roughly booked by winters so can push then before folk book summer holidays. Gives any definite new 29ers 6 months to get a boat/partnership. Push again at Springs. And at RYAS transition weekend. For those, like the Derwent crew, that haven't been at Tummel included a link to some video to give an idea of set up. Also report from TW last year, format and races per day changing this year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On6061y_YHw https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/208209/Fantastic-Tummel-Week-2018 Any thoughts welcome. Also an idea if interested asap. Bear
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COaching weekend 24/25th November 9
There's an chance to run an open 29er class training weekend on the 24/25th of November at the Tay with Anna coaching. Cost ?60 per boat for the weekend. We'd need 3 boats minimum, let me know if interested by Friday night. If it goes ahead I'll put the entry up on the class web site for folk to enter via. Sorry for short notice, Anna was supposed to be coaching at the laser academy that weekend but they've not got many entries so she's not required. I know it doesn't suit a few but it's perhaps a chance for helms and crews to sail in different combinations? Bear
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Quick straw poll on late May GP dates 2019 and 2020 11
Hi folks, There's a class meeting at Grafham this Saturday when the 2020 national program will get agreed. At the moment the suggestion is a northern travellers at either Sunderland, Pwllheli or Largs on the late bank holiday on 23/24th May 2020. It's intended to be a relatively easy one for Scottish boats to get to to help them compete in the national series. However there might be exams after it so can I do a quick straw poll for both 2019 and 2020. Geography is the main problem for 2019, higher is 9am on the Tuesday! There's no schedule out for 2020. Probably better if you just answer per sailor rather than per boat. So for 2019, has your sailors got exams after the 25/26th May 2019, are they doing the GP, are they wanting to do training on the preceding Friday/Saturday. RYA are going to probably host an academy on the Friday and/or Saturday. The actual GP is on the Sunday/Monday to give English time to travel! For 2020 if there were exams after the GP, which is 23/24th May, would your sailor take part. By then some will be on highers rather than Nat5s so that might affect folk's answers. So if folk can give me quick reply by Friday night please. David can then put forward the Scottish view tomorrow. Info required below, depends can also be answer, it might depend on how prelims go, exam spacing etc. For example 2019, Jimmy, got Nat 5 geog, doing GP and Saturday training. 2020, Jimmy, highers, if affected wouldn't do GP Sorry for short notice but there's no point in having a northern GP on national circuit if a lot of Scots can't do it and we need to give them actual figures to show why it won't work if that is the case. Bear
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Sunday 1st December 3
Suzie and Maisie are keen for a day on the water this coming Sunday at the Tay. Anyone else interested? I know Danny and Tom at Rutland and Alastair's got a topper academy. Normal training session at 9:30, frostbite race at 12 and then a survivors session afterwards. B
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Meal on Saturday night at winters 3
Hi all. Assume most of you just heading home straight after sailing. Kids will get pasta when they come off water as part of entry. Largs are then doing a tea and quiz night. Hot main, chocolate cake/ice cream ,tea/coffee and mince pie for ?10. Anytime to suit from 5pm onwards . Gary doing quiz afterwards! I'll post on FB and you can comment to book. Or for an extra ?2 go for fixed price early bird deal in Scots is your other option. Food a bit better but perhaps not so sociable? Suzie and I staying at pals nearby and not sure if they're actually around at diner time or not. Will find out on Friday night when we arrive. Anyway I suggest anyone that's staying over and wants to do communal eating replies to email and can work out if a plan Copied in Simon mcillwaine to this email so if you do reply all when you reply to keep him in loop. I know he's got accomodation in Largs. B.
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This weekend at Largs - can anyone help? 6
Hi all Our trailer is unusable and is stuck on the street near my flat in S. Edinburgh following bearing disintegration this afternoon - part of the inner bearing is completely seized onto the axle, stopping me fitting new bearings. Won’t be able to look at it again until the morning and it may be difficult or impossible to clear the axle within a reasonable time. Catriona and Evie are due to go to Largs early tomorrow. Could anyone help us out with boat transport or a spare trailer? Another possibility might be I leave girls at Largs and borrow a trailer from one of you once your boat is unloaded to come back and collect our boat from Edinburgh. The girls would start late but might manage the last race or two on Saturday and be able to do all of Sunday. We could just leave our boat at Largs or at my Mum’s in Beith until our trailer is fixed. Susan Sent from Windows Mail
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Wavelength Image | RYAS Largs Winter 2018 2
https://www.wavelengthimage.com/p312535637 For those not on Facebook link above to pics Simon took at winters. Some fab pics of the gang, think Suzie might want one or two framed for Xmas. Thanks again Simon. Bear
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Sailing Sunday 16th 8
Anyone wanting to sail at the Tay this Sunday. Susie and Maisie keen. Danny's not sailing and Rowan and Harris tied up for next couple of weekends. There's no frostbite so probably be later start than normal. Forecast at the moment is dodgy, we'd take a decision on Saturday Bear
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This weekend 22/23rd December 5
For those that have already got all their Xmas presents bought and wrapped and are at a loose end this weekend might try and organise a day at the Tay. No storms forecast at the moment. Maisie and Suzie can do Sunday, only Suzie if Saturday so Sunday better for us. Anyone else and what day suits? Probably decide Thursday night if a goer re forecast Then remember Boxing Day racing if you fancy it. 2 races. 1st start 12.00 Btw I'm in category of not done any Xmas shopping but sitting on a rib in Tay freezing to death is more fun than trailing round shops! B. Ps happy Xmas
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RTYC Boxing Day races 2
Irn Bru sailing forecast! Just a reminder about the couple of races at the Tay on Boxing Day. We've got at least three 29ers probably four locally plus any visitors. Niamh and Anna supposed to be sailing one so that should be good for some mickey taking. First start is 12 but given forecast prom could be busy so allow a bit of extra time for that. Lots of beach catering on the go plus free buffet up at main club with prize giving. Happy Xmas Bear
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Sailing over rest of holidays 5
Hi all. See message below from Sandy. We're travelling back both of those days so can't make either but they're options for anyone that fancies it. We could make either Sunday 30th or Wednesday the 2nd if that's good for anyone else. B. From Sandy Cats are meeting Saturday morning. Are you looking to join in? Also I see some cats are looking to sail on New Year's Day. Do any 29ers want to join in. I am happy to do safety boat if necessary. Don't know time yet.
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Dalgety Bay academy 12/13th January 4
Hi all. Remember deadline is tonight to sign up. I know it's exam season but if anyone can make it but without normal partner there's others that might helm/crew. So far four either signed up or about to. Danny/Tom, Eoghan/Ben, Archie/Ben and Suzie/Maisie. B.
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5/6th January - class training? 10
Happy New Year. If anyone's interested I could set up some 29er class training with Anna coaching this weekend at the Tay. Either both days or just Sunday? I'd probably need at least three boats interested to justify running it. I know it's short notice but forecast looking OK, too light if anything might be issue and tides are good as well. Suzie got Gabby from Tay crewing on Sunday but no one for Saturday just now, Maise got joys of revising! If not enough interest in coached format we'd still do open sailing on Sunday. B.
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29er Training Sails 2
Some info got before Xmas from Matt at Ratsey. I know couple of you talked about training jibs. Colin bought white dacron for ?230. Suspect it's more robust - and cheaper - but thought I'd p[ass this on. Pics to follow. David asking re training kites reminded me. B. Hi Bear - This is a copy of the SMS I have sent you.... Thanks for the message. Yes I have the black laminate training jibs and also training kites. The Jibs are ?290 inc VAT and the Kites are ?400 inc VAT. Kites are available in Red and Blue only. I will check stock today but I am fairly sure I have at least 3 jibs and 5+ kites. If you manage to get multiple orders then I would be prepared to offer a 10% discount on a group purchase. Shipping is on top of this but if we ship to one consoladated address for a group order then I will throw in shipping cost. The Jibs are really good…my boy has been using one since we brought them out 2 years ago and they are far more durable and suitable for training without any noticeable loss in performance. The Kites are also just as good but less than half the price of an Ovington one and as you will know the issue when you have an old kite for training is that it loses its finish meaning it easily wraps or wineglasses when you gybe…which when you are learning often leads to other things (such as capsize!)…. Hope this helps, do let me know if i can help further Best regards Matthew Matthew Ratsey 07970 651660 01503 250851
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