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Yesterday afternoon the laptop began running ever so slowly, later I discovered I had hundreds of emails in my Junk folder.

On so many the “TO” and the “FROM” are not addressed to myself or my wife, and the from is some weird name that means nothing.

I can’t unsubscribe, which usually does no good anyway so what in the world can be done.

Here is one I just received from supposedly Kohl’s. ?The sender isn’t what Kohl’s would read and below that is who it’s addressed to, who in the heck is that?

I get dozens and dozens of them addressed to: ?“Fellow Trader”, not me, but yet it comes to me. ?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mad and frustrated……

John




 

John,

I don’t have the abundance of junk mail you do but about every 1-2 weeks I empty my junk mail folder.

I also use spam sieve which installs a “spam” folder in mail and it catches a ton of stuff - don’t even bother to look at. I also empty that folder regularly. The spam folder collects a lot more spam / junk than the junk mail folder.



Harry

On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:42 PM, John Robinson via groups.io <profilecovenant@...> wrote:

Yesterday afternoon the laptop began running ever so slowly, later I discovered I had hundreds of emails in my Junk folder.

On so many the “TO” and the “FROM” are not addressed to myself or my wife, and the from is some weird name that means nothing.

I can’t unsubscribe, which usually does no good anyway so what in the world can be done.

Here is one I just received from supposedly Kohl’s. The sender isn’t what Kohl’s would read and below that is who it’s addressed to, who in the heck is that?

I get dozens and dozens of them addressed to: “Fellow Trader”, not me, but yet it comes to me.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mad and frustrated……

John

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Many thanks Harry.

John

On Jun 27, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:

John,

I don’t have the abundance of junk mail you do but about every 1-2 weeks I empty my junk mail folder.

I also use spam sieve which installs a “spam” folder in mail and it catches a ton of stuff - don’t even bother to look at. I also empty that folder regularly. The spam folder collects a lot more spam / junk than the junk mail folder.



Harry

On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:42 PM, John Robinson via groups.io <profilecovenant@...> wrote:

Yesterday afternoon the laptop began running ever so slowly, later I discovered I had hundreds of emails in my Junk folder.

On so many the “TO” and the “FROM” are not addressed to myself or my wife, and the from is some weird name that means nothing.

I can’t unsubscribe, which usually does no good anyway so what in the world can be done.

Here is one I just received from supposedly Kohl’s. The sender isn’t what Kohl’s would read and below that is who it’s addressed to, who in the heck is that?

I get dozens and dozens of them addressed to: “Fellow Trader”, not me, but yet it comes to me.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mad and frustrated……

John

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You have landed on someone’s spam list John…but that should not be slowing down your Mac. I would consider SpamSieve (as Harry and I use it)
All the best,
Wyman



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On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:42 PM, John Robinson via groups.io <profilecovenant@...> wrote:

Yesterday afternoon the laptop began running ever so slowly, later I discovered I had hundreds of emails in my Junk folder.

On so many the “TO” and the “FROM” are not addressed to myself or my wife, and the from is some weird name that means nothing.

I can’t unsubscribe, which usually does no good anyway so what in the world can be done.

Here is one I just received from supposedly Kohl’s. ?The sender isn’t what Kohl’s would read and below that is who it’s addressed to, who in the heck is that?

I get dozens and dozens of them addressed to: ?“Fellow Trader”, not me, but yet it comes to me. ?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mad and frustrated……

John

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Thanks so much Wyman!?

John


On Jun 28, 2023, at 7:54 PM, Wyman with Mac in a Snap via <info@...> wrote:


You have landed on someone’s spam list John…but that should not be slowing down your Mac. I would consider SpamSieve (as Harry and I use it)
All the best,
Wyman



Help Desk
Address?161 St Matthews Ave, Ste 4 Louisville, KY 40207?
Phone??(502) 553-7777?
Email??help@...?
Website???



On Jun 27, 2023, at 2:42 PM, John Robinson via <profilecovenant@...> wrote:

Yesterday afternoon the laptop began running ever so slowly, later I discovered I had hundreds of emails in my Junk folder.

On so many the “TO” and the “FROM” are not addressed to myself or my wife, and the from is some weird name that means nothing.

I can’t unsubscribe, which usually does no good anyway so what in the world can be done.

Here is one I just received from supposedly Kohl’s. ?The sender isn’t what Kohl’s would read and below that is who it’s addressed to, who in the heck is that?

I get dozens and dozens of them addressed to: ?“Fellow Trader”, not me, but yet it comes to me. ?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mad and frustrated……

John

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On Jun 27, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:

I don’t have the abundance of junk mail you do but about every 1-2 weeks I empty my junk mail folder.

I also use spam sieve which installs a “spam” folder in mail and it catches a ton of stuff - don’t even bother to look at. I also empty that folder regularly. The spam folder collects a lot more spam / junk than the junk mail folder.

What’s going to happen to SpamSieve when Sonoma (MacOS 14) is released? The plugin programs for Apple’s mail are not going to work any more because Apple is removing extension suppor from mail.

For example, SmallCubed has already announced that MailSuite won’t work any more. I’m trying to figure out what I’m going to do without it because I use various parts of it a lot.

L^2





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Apple giveth and Apple taketh away.

::-(

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.


Jonathan



On Jun 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Lee Larson via groups.io <leelarson@...> wrote:

On Jun 27, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:

I don’t have the abundance of junk mail you do but about every 1-2 weeks I empty my junk mail folder.

I also use spam sieve which installs a “spam” folder in mail and it catches a ton of stuff - don’t even bother to look at. I also empty that folder regularly. The spam folder collects a lot more spam / junk than the junk mail folder.

What’s going to happen to SpamSieve when Sonoma (MacOS 14) is released? The plugin programs for Apple’s mail are not going to work any more because Apple is removing extension suppor from mail.

For example, SmallCubed has already announced that MailSuite won’t work any more. I’m trying to figure out what I’m going to do without it because I use various parts of it a lot.

L^2





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leelarson@...

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?I sometimes think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability.—?Oscar Wilde

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I would ask what MailSuite is/does but since it is going away it’s not important. :-)

Lee, do you know why Apple is removing extension support from mail?

On Jun 29, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:

Apple giveth and Apple taketh away.

::-(

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.


Jonathan



On Jun 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Lee Larson via groups.io <leelarson@...> wrote:

On Jun 27, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:

I don’t have the abundance of junk mail you do but about every 1-2 weeks I empty my junk mail folder.

I also use spam sieve which installs a “spam” folder in mail and it catches a ton of stuff - don’t even bother to look at. I also empty that folder regularly. The spam folder collects a lot more spam / junk than the junk mail folder.

What’s going to happen to SpamSieve when Sonoma (MacOS 14) is released? The plugin programs for Apple’s mail are not going to work any more because Apple is removing extension suppor from mail.

For example, SmallCubed has already announced that MailSuite won’t work any more. I’m trying to figure out what I’m going to do without it because I use various parts of it a lot.

L^2





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Lee Larson
leelarson@...

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?I sometimes think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability.—?Oscar Wilde

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--
Jonathan Fletcher
Workplace Innovation Facilitator
jonathan@...

Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group ? Next Meeting: 7/25/23
Register at kyfmp.com/reg/ for a link







 

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On Jun 29, 2023, at 1:24 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:

Lee, do you know why Apple is removing extension support from mail?

All I’ve read for sure is … mumble … mumble … security … mumble …

My guess is they are trying to use the same code base on iOS and MacOS. Since iOS mail has not allowed plugins, they’ve decreed none of their mail programs shall have plugins.

L^2





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On Jun 29, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.?

I had to think about this reply because I’ve grown so used to Act-On it seems like part of Apple’s mail. It was tricky to remember what’s in the mail program and what’s been grafted on by Act-On.


I organize my mail with MailTags instead of having a myriad confusing mail folders. Most of my saved mail ends up in a few folders which I can search using tags.

Lots of special Act-On keystrokes are programmed do all sorts of things like set up mail templates, magically file and tag messages, automatically forward mail, address to groups and other such things. It really streamlines things when handling lots of mail or doing repetitive tasks. For example, I have a special address to which students submit assignments. Act-On is used to acknowledge receipt, tag and file the messages, and format the reply after I’ve graded the submission.

SigPro customizes signatures depending on the address from which my reply is being sent. I regularly use four different accounts and have custom signatures for each one. It also handles the random quotations you see at the bottom of some of my emails.


There are numerous other pieces of MailSuite I don’t use. Maybe Bill can fill in a few more uses.

Some of this stuff can be duplicated with scripting, but I’m not sure how scriptable the new mail will be because of the lack of scripting for mail, or much of anything, in iOS.

L^2



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Thanks for taking the time, Lee. That’s a good list.

Jonathan



On Jun 29, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Lee Larson via groups.io <leelarson@...> wrote:

On Jun 29, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.
I had to think about this reply because I’ve grown so used to Act-On it seems like part of Apple’s mail. It was tricky to remember what’s in the mail program and what’s been grafted on by Act-On.


I organize my mail with MailTags instead of having a myriad confusing mail folders. Most of my saved mail ends up in a few folders which I can search using tags.

Lots of special Act-On keystrokes are programmed do all sorts of things like set up mail templates, magically file and tag messages, automatically forward mail, address to groups and other such things. It really streamlines things when handling lots of mail or doing repetitive tasks. For example, I have a special address to which students submit assignments. Act-On is used to acknowledge receipt, tag and file the messages, and format the reply after I’ve graded the submission.

SigPro customizes signatures depending on the address from which my reply is being sent. I regularly use four different accounts and have custom signatures for each one. It also handles the random quotations you see at the bottom of some of my emails.


There are numerous other pieces of MailSuite I don’t use. Maybe Bill can fill in a few more uses.

Some of this stuff can be duplicated with scripting, but I’m not sure how scriptable the new mail will be because of the lack of scripting for mail, or much of anything, in iOS.

L^2



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Lee Larson
leelarson@...

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?You have to be careful! Some Internet quotations are falsely attributed.—?Abraham Lincoln
Speech in Richmond, Virginia, 1864
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Jonathan Fletcher
Workplace Innovation Facilitator
jonathan@...

Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group ? Next Meeting: 7/25/23
Register at kyfmp.com/reg/ for a link


 

On Jun 29, 2023, at 14:31, Lee Larson via groups.io <leelarson@...> wrote:

On Jun 29, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.
I had to think about this reply because I’ve grown so used to Act-On it seems like part of Apple’s mail. It was tricky to remember what’s in the mail program and what’s been grafted on by Act-On.


I organize my mail with MailTags instead of having a myriad confusing mail folders. Most of my saved mail ends up in a few folders which I can search using tags.

Lots of special Act-On keystrokes are programmed do all sorts of things like set up mail templates, magically file and tag messages, automatically forward mail, address to groups and other such things. It really streamlines things when handling lots of mail or doing repetitive tasks. For example, I have a special address to which students submit assignments. Act-On is used to acknowledge receipt, tag and file the messages, and format the reply after I’ve graded the submission.

SigPro customizes signatures depending on the address from which my reply is being sent. I regularly use four different accounts and have custom signatures for each one. It also handles the random quotations you see at the bottom of some of my emails.


There are numerous other pieces of MailSuite I don’t use. Maybe Bill can fill in a few more uses.
Not really. I kept all my work email in one big folder and used MailTags to organize things ... which is way easier than folders, because multiple tags on one mail is the equivalent of the mail being in multiple folders at once. Also, the place I worked at had a strange home-built way of filing email into virtual folders for everyone to see, and MailTags (plus scripts) allowed me to quickly move the email to the company server in the right place. Finally, there can be more complicated rules (as Lee pointed out) which make life simpler for complicated but repetitive tasks.

I, too, have to think about which features are in Apple Mail and which are in MailTags.

I hope Lee is wrong (but bet he's not) about everything moving to a single codebase for iOS and macOS. This would really make me want to use my computer even less, because the thing I don't like about using my phone for anything serious and the reason I've never gotten a tablet is that the mobile OSes are just to useless to me. All that good effort that went into making the Mac into a really nice useful interface ends up fading into the mishmash of a mobile OS.

Bill


 

Lee,
This was an app I did not know about. If you find a replacement for it when Sonoma comes out, please share on this list. Thanks.

Harry

On Jun 29, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Lee Larson via groups.io <leelarson@...> wrote:

On Jun 29, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:

What are your favorite features in MailSuite, Lee? I was using it for Send Later, but that was added recently to Apple Mail, so I didn’t need it any more.
I had to think about this reply because I’ve grown so used to Act-On it seems like part of Apple’s mail. It was tricky to remember what’s in the mail program and what’s been grafted on by Act-On.


I organize my mail with MailTags instead of having a myriad confusing mail folders. Most of my saved mail ends up in a few folders which I can search using tags.

Lots of special Act-On keystrokes are programmed do all sorts of things like set up mail templates, magically file and tag messages, automatically forward mail, address to groups and other such things. It really streamlines things when handling lots of mail or doing repetitive tasks. For example, I have a special address to which students submit assignments. Act-On is used to acknowledge receipt, tag and file the messages, and format the reply after I’ve graded the submission.

SigPro customizes signatures depending on the address from which my reply is being sent. I regularly use four different accounts and have custom signatures for each one. It also handles the random quotations you see at the bottom of some of my emails.


There are numerous other pieces of MailSuite I don’t use. Maybe Bill can fill in a few more uses.

Some of this stuff can be duplicated with scripting, but I’m not sure how scriptable the new mail will be because of the lack of scripting for mail, or much of anything, in iOS.

L^2



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Lee Larson
leelarson@...

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?You have to be careful! Some Internet quotations are falsely attributed.—?Abraham Lincoln
Speech in Richmond, Virginia, 1864
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