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Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
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It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
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Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
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On Jun 19, 2022, at 17:14, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) < earo@...> wrote:
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
It gets a big “don’t care” from me, as I don’t ‘own’ any zoom meetings. The risks of being impersonated in zoom seem pretty small.
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Don’t be too proud of that – it just means that you’re a boring person and no-one wants to be like you! ? ?
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Subject: Re: [m-virtualmeetinghosts] Zoom Two Factor Authentication? ? On Jun 19, 2022, at 17:14, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote: ? Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
? It gets a big “don’t care” from me, as I don’t ‘own’ any zoom meetings. The risks of being impersonated in zoom seem pretty small. ?
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I don't see it as a problem, Andrew. You say that two-factor authentication is to be applauded, so we have to accept that it means carrying the second factor around with us - that is why they are 'mobile'!?
Incidentally, I hope that Matt knows you well enough to take your "boring" comment as a joke. Not everyone would have.
John?
On Sunday, 19 June 2022, 23:14:57 BST, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
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It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
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Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
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I assume that this won't affect me as I'm another of the very boring people who don't host Zoom meetings, I just turn up, having left all the technical stuff to those who are much cleverer than me. Some time ago I had to give up occasional selling on Amazon when they brought in two-step verification, which needed me to have two phone numbers, at the time I didn't see why I should have to acquire a mobile phone as well as a landline. Nowadays I wonder if it still works like that because many people no longer have a landline, only a mobile phone. ?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 07:18, John Butler via <johnthejester= [email protected]> wrote:
I don't see it as a problem, Andrew. You say that two-factor authentication is to be applauded, so we have to accept that it means carrying the second factor around with us - that is why they are 'mobile'!?
Incidentally, I hope that Matt knows you well enough to take your "boring" comment as a joke. Not everyone would have.
John?
On Sunday, 19 June 2022, 23:14:57 BST, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) < earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
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Not sure if this would affect me or not as I have login access to the London Mensa Zoom for running meetings so none of my details are listed.
On 20 June 2022 at 07:54 Susan Lambert <susanjlambert5@...> wrote:
I assume that this won't affect me as I'm another of the very boring people who don't host Zoom meetings, I just turn up, having left all the technical stuff to those who are much cleverer than me.
Some time ago I had to give up occasional selling on Amazon when they brought in two-step verification, which needed me to have two phone numbers, at the time I didn't see why I should have to acquire a mobile phone as well as a landline. Nowadays I wonder if it still works like that because many people no longer have a landline, only a mobile phone. ?
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 07:18, John Butler via <johnthejester= [email protected]> wrote:
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I don't see it as a problem, Andrew. You say that two-factor authentication is to be applauded, so we have to accept that it means carrying the second factor around with us - that is why they are 'mobile'!?
Incidentally, I hope that Matt knows you well enough to take your "boring" comment as a joke. Not everyone would have.
John?
On Sunday, 19 June 2022, 23:14:57 BST, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) < earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) < earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...> wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) < earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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Zoom have already enabled 2-factor authentication, which you can turn on in your account settings if you
want.
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In addition, if they detect an ‘unusual’ login from a different machine / location than normal, they require 2-factor authentication
as a security feature via a code sent to a mobile phone, even if it was not set as on in the account settings.
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As Hannah says, this may cause problems for regions where the account is shared.
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: 20 June 2022 16:42
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Subject: Re: [m-virtualmeetinghosts] Zoom Two Factor Authentication
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Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...> wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
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On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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Information about 2FA is at:
I don't intend to switch it on. I think it is aimed at businesses primarily. John?
On Monday, 20 June 2022, 16:47:05 BST, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom have already enabled 2-factor authentication, which you can turn on in your account settings if you
want.
?
In addition, if they detect an ‘unusual’ login from a different machine / location than normal, they require 2-factor authentication
as a security feature via a code sent to a mobile phone, even if it was not set as on in the account settings.
?
As Hannah says, this may cause problems for regions where the account is shared.
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Lyn Cooper via groups.io
Sent: 20 June 2022 16:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [m-virtualmeetinghosts] Zoom Two Factor Authentication
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Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...> wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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It would seem to make sense that regional accounts wouldn't switch it on.
On 20 June 2022 at 17:03 "John Butler via groups.io" <johnthejester@...> wrote:
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Information about 2FA is at:
I don't intend to switch it on. I think it is aimed at businesses primarily.
John?
On Monday, 20 June 2022, 16:47:05 BST, Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom have already enabled 2-factor authentication, which you can turn on in your account settings if you want.
?
In addition, if they detect an ‘unusual’ login from a different machine / location than normal, they require 2-factor authentication as a security feature via a code sent to a mobile phone, even if it was not set as on in the account settings.
?
As Hannah says, this may cause problems for regions where the account is shared.
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
?
Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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?
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Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...> wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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Is it possible to have the best of both?
Reacting to the phrase 'login from unusual location',
how many logins does it take to become a usual location/device? If on one designated afternoon all the (potential) hosts log in a couple of times from their (potential) device(s) (possibly even with 1 central phone relaying the codes to the respective 'hosts'), thereafter every next time can be hassle free?
Or, maybe as a permanent backup if codes will be necessary occasionally:
If person A logs in, can a code sent to person B (or M-office?) be used?
(intended to allow people to keep their phone nr secret except to person B for relaying the code)
(I'm quite tired of being tracked on the meter and second by a zillion companies for solely their benefit and profile building and the very rare microscopic benefit for me)
Anyway, got interrupted so train of thought has departed in the meanwhile ;-)
But the above might be inspiring enough to find a usable method, IF indeed deemed necessary (which I personally doubt a bit)
kind regards, Leo Kleinenberg (East-NL)
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Op maandag 20 juni 2022 om 17:47:05 CEST schreef Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...>:
Zoom have already enabled 2-factor authentication, which you can turn on in your account settings if you
want.
?
In addition, if they detect an ‘unusual’ login from a different machine / location than normal, they require 2-factor authentication
as a security feature via a code sent to a mobile phone, even if it was not set as on in the account settings.
?
As Hannah says, this may cause problems for regions where the account is shared.
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Lyn Cooper via groups.io
Sent: 20 June 2022 16:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [m-virtualmeetinghosts] Zoom Two Factor Authentication
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Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...> wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...> wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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Agree with Lynn – it’s probably best not to switch on 2FA for shared regional accounts for this reason. However,
the problem comes when Zoom detects an ‘unusual’ login attempt, and uses it anyway.
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Perhaps a workaround like Leo suggests would work, but it does sound a bit flaky and unrobust. Perhaps we just have to try things and
see how it works out?
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Any other ideas?
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Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of leo klnb via groups.io
Sent: 20 June 2022 19:27
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [m-virtualmeetinghosts] Zoom Two Factor Authentication
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Is it possible to have the best of both?
Reacting to the phrase 'login from unusual location',
how many logins does it take to become a usual location/device? If on one designated afternoon all the (potential) hosts log in a couple of times from their (potential) device(s) (possibly even with 1 central phone relaying the codes to the respective 'hosts'),
thereafter every next time can be hassle free?
Or, maybe as a permanent backup if codes will be necessary occasionally:
If person A logs in, can a code sent to person B (or M-office?) be used?
(intended to allow people to keep their phone nr secret except to person B for relaying the code)
(I'm quite tired of being tracked on the meter and second by a zillion companies for solely their benefit and profile building and the very rare microscopic benefit for me)
Anyway, got interrupted so train of thought has departed in the meanwhile ;-)
But the above might be inspiring enough to find a usable method, IF indeed deemed necessary (which I personally doubt a bit)
kind regards, Leo Kleinenberg (East-NL)
Op maandag 20 juni 2022 om 17:47:05 CEST schreef Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...>:
Zoom have already enabled 2-factor authentication, which you can turn on in your account settings if you want.
?
In addition, if they detect an ‘unusual’ login from a different machine / location than normal, they require 2-factor authentication as
a security feature via a code sent to a mobile phone, even if it was not set as on in the account settings.
?
As Hannah says, this may cause problems for regions where the account is shared.
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
?
Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
?
?
?
Andrew. Is this effective yet or just a proposal?
On 20 June 2022 at 15:45 Hannah Eisenberg <hannah.eisenberg@...>
wrote:
For anyone who shares a regional account, it would be an issue to implement. In the NW we share the account between 3 or 4 of us, and
I know a lot of other regions do this
Also, is there an invite link for this group? - I know of a couple of newer hosts who would appreciate joining
?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:14 PM Andrew Aus (Mensa EA RO) <earo@...>
wrote:
Zoom has started promoting two factor authentication to log in. This is a great security feature, and should be applauded.
?
It does pose some problems though, when you want to log in from a remote computer and you may not have your phone with
you.
?
Do other people have concerns or comments regarding this change?
?
Best wishes,
Andrew.
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Andrew Aus
Mensa East Anglia Regional Officer
earo@...
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