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Recently I received the following message about the WL1030 loopantenna. It is an action with an offer for a set of difficult to get components for the WL1030 antenna. The time window is this weekend only, and the website is in dutch.

I am not involved, so no credits to me.

And I do not know how many sets are available, but you can always try



Cor Beijersbergen van Henegouwen



Very recently an initiative started by a couple of radio enthusiast to help the HAM radio community with kits, containing the 'difficult' SMD components, coils and an amplifier pcb. They also support the builders with additional information, tips, pictures and the site has an active forum.

You can find their site (which is in Dutch) at: www.ng-ronde.nl/wl1030.

--- In loopantennas@..., "C. Beijersbergen"
<c.beijersbergen@...> wrote:

Recently I received the following message about the WL1030

loopantenna. It is an action with an offer for a set of difficult to
get components for the WL1030 antenna. The time window is this
weekend only, and the website is in dutch.

I am not involved, so no credits to me.

And I do not know how many sets are available, but you can always

try

Hi c.beijersbergen

Thanks for the advisory... regarding the offered "parts kit".... I
have just emailed my "intention to purchase" to the WL1030 email
address.

I used Babel Fish translator to read the site and it looks to me as
though this is an invitation to show interest in buying the parts.
The author of the offer will then place a bulk order. The unit cost
is stated as between 20 and 30 Euros depending on the number of
kits "ordered" by 1 July 07. I may be wrong but I think the "kit"
includes the newly designed PCB.

Site url: www.wl1030.com

This is just my take on the offer so anyone interested should visit
the site and draw their own conclusions. I for one would happily pay
30 Euros for the parts :-)

Fraser

Hi Cor ;)

I'm the one 'responsible' for the webpage about this project. After
some discussions about selfmade loop antenna's on a Dutch lng
newsgroup the building of the wl1030 came into discussion. I had some
difficulties obtaining some parts of the antenna, and one group
members offered to order them for me, and for himself to built a version.
Quickly another member came forward and offered us pcb's he designed.
One thing led to another and it became a group thingy.

The project is growing a bit out of hand currently with all the extra
attention... Its all non-commercial and based on the (spare) freetime
of just a very few people. A few dozen packets will already have to
be made, far more then initially expected. Also delivering
internationally has several drawbacks and as it seems now it will
proof to be impossible . Reasons for this can be found in costs and tax.

We've set a maximum of 40 sets total, which is pretty much filled up
as well if I understood correctly.

I do hope though the website helps any other groups wanting to built
this antenna.

Excuses to those who are left out in this particulair project. One
thing I can say is that you should contact Johan (email on the
wl1030.com website) with requests for a pcb. Can't say too much but a
bit of extra market for a pcb might just be whats needed...

--- In loopantennas@..., "Jeroen Kloppenburg"
<3mensions@...> wrote:

Hi Cor ;)

I'm the one 'responsible' for the webpage about this project. After
some discussions about selfmade loop antenna's on a Dutch lng
newsgroup the building of the wl1030 came into discussion. I had

some

difficulties obtaining some parts of the antenna, and one group
members offered to order them for me, and for himself to built a

version.

Quickly another member came forward and offered us pcb's he

designed.

One thing led to another and it became a group thingy.

The project is growing a bit out of hand currently with all the

extra

attention... Its all non-commercial and based on the (spare)

freetime

of just a very few people. A few dozen packets will already have to
be made, far more then initially expected. Also delivering
internationally has several drawbacks and as it seems now it will
proof to be impossible . Reasons for this can be found in costs and

tax.

We've set a maximum of 40 sets total, which is pretty much filled up
as well if I understood correctly.

I do hope though the website helps any other groups wanting to built
this antenna.

Excuses to those who are left out in this particulair project. One
thing I can say is that you should contact Johan (email on the
wl1030.com website) with requests for a pcb. Can't say too much but

a

bit of extra market for a pcb might just be whats needed...

Oh dear..... I'm in the United Kingdom so it looks like I will not be
getting a look-in on this little project after all :-( Such is life I
suppose.

Fraser

Oh dear..... I'm in the United Kingdom so it looks like I will not be
getting a look-in on this little project after all :-( Such is life I
suppose.

I'm very sorry to dissapoint you :(

This started out as a small group effort but got known outside of this
group and quickly grew out of capacity. We simply lack the time to
produce this ammount of pcb's and get this ammount of components. Its
all done at cost price and in the spare time of just a few. Making the
pcb's is done by hand by jus a single person for example.

But DO express your interest at the people behind wl10.30.com, I cant
stress this enough. If enough are interested they will have more
possibilities then just a few Ham friends helping eachother!

I'm very sorry to dissapoint you :(

This started out as a small group effort but got known outside of this
group and quickly grew out of capacity. We simply lack the time to
produce this ammount of pcb's and get this ammount of components. Its
all done at cost price and in the spare time of just a few. Making the
pcb's is done by hand by jus a single person for example.

But DO express your interest at the people behind wl10.30.com, I cant
stress this enough. If enough are interested they will have more
possibilities then just a few Ham friends helping eachother!

Hi Jeroen,

No worries :-)

I think what you are doing is very good for the hobby and I personally
thank your little group for even considering acting as a supply agent
for the Wl1030 parts. I can imagine how such an offer to supply parts
can spiral out of control quite quickly ! The WL1030 seems to have
produced a lot of interest in the Loop world. I suspect people are
looking for a more affordable alternative to the Wellbrook range of
loops.

I will contact the WL1030 people and express an interest in any kits
that may be made available.

Best Wishes

Fraser

The WL1030 seems to have
produced a lot of interest in the Loop world. I suspect people are
looking for a more affordable alternative to the Wellbrook range of
loops.

I know ;)

Today I compared a online rx with a wl1030 about 30km from me with my
rx with an active loop ('s.htm) and
I actually found my loop with a far better noise/signal ratio... This
is just a onetime 'test' and I dont know wether my location is better
then the online rx (from Johan, the guy behind wl1030.com) but still...

I will contact the WL1030 people and express an interest in any kits
that may be made available.

Do that! And anyone else interested should ;)

I wrote Johan at WL1030.com using the site's built-in email. Rcv'd a
prompt reply saying I should "stay tuned" as the immediate group is
exploring possilities.

Mark/airchecklover

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--- In loopantennas@..., "Jeroen Kloppenburg"
<3mensions@...> wrote:

The WL1030 seems to have
produced a lot of interest in the Loop world. I suspect people are
looking for a more affordable alternative to the Wellbrook range of
loops.

I know ;)

Today I compared a online rx with a wl1030 about 30km from me with my
rx with an active loop ('s.htm) and
I actually found my loop with a far better noise/signal ratio... This
is just a onetime 'test' and I dont know wether my location is better
then the online rx (from Johan, the guy behind wl1030.com) but still...

I will contact the WL1030 people and express an interest in any kits
that may be made available.

Do that! And anyone else interested should ;)

--- In loopantennas@..., "airchecklover" <mdh@...> wrote:

I wrote Johan at WL1030.com using the site's built-in email. Rcv'd a
prompt reply saying I should "stay tuned" as the immediate group is
exploring possilities.

I wrote and recieved the same prompt response. The response suggested
that the WL1030 loop may become available as a built loop. In some ways
this is good but in others it is a pity as I would wish to DIY the loop
in order to keep the costs down A fully built loop with all the
associated production costs and profit margins could end up with a cost
close to that of the Wellbrook ALA1530. Given that choice I would have
to go with the Wellbrook as it has a well proven track record.

Now a simple DIY WL1030 partial kit..... that would be a different
matter. Even if the manufacturer went as far as building the SMD
amplifier for you it would still keep the cost down. We would then have
to construct a loop and case of our choice and cost. Something like
trhe ALA100 but uncased ?

Just my thoughts

Fraser

--- In loopantennas@..., "Fraser" <fraser.castle@...>

I wrote and recieved the same prompt response. The response suggested
that the WL1030 loop may become available as a built loop. In some ways
this is good but in others it is a pity as I would wish to DIY the loop
in order to keep the costs down A fully built loop with all the
associated production costs and profit margins could end up with a cost
close to that of the Wellbrook ALA1530. Given that choice I would have
to go with the Wellbrook as it has a well proven track record.

Hmm what I understood from Johan in the contact we had over the past
week (quite extensive at times) is that its about delivering parts so
you'll still be building it yourself. But maybe plans have changed, I
don't know. I know quite sure that things are not yet set in stone,
hence I said any interested member of this (and other) group should
email them and express your interest ;)

DIY would be far more fun anyway. Anyone can buy a rx and antenna and
start receiving, building it really has its charm. And aside from
that, you can modify the antenna to suit your specific needs. The
building group we set up will release info with modifications later on
the page. Mods will include frequency changed due to different
ferrite's and windings, other cases, etc. Personally I have plans to
make an ala100 type of box for vacations for example, along with one
base model which will go on top of the roof here.

Hmm what I understood from Johan in the contact we had over the past
week (quite extensive at times) is that its about delivering parts

so

you'll still be building it yourself. But maybe plans have changed,

I

don't know. I know quite sure that things are not yet set in stone,
hence I said any interested member of this (and other) group should
email them and express your interest ;)

DIY would be far more fun anyway. Anyone can buy a rx and antenna

and

start receiving, building it really has its charm. And aside from
that, you can modify the antenna to suit your specific needs. The
building group we set up will release info with modifications later

on

the page. Mods will include frequency changed due to different
ferrite's and windings, other cases, etc. Personally I have plans to
make an ala100 type of box for vacations for example, along with one
base model which will go on top of the roof here.

Hi Jeroen,

I couldn't agree more with your comments.

I would far prefer to DIY the loop to suit my needs and preferences.
The idea of an ALA100 type of loop amp also appeals so I would
probably buy several WL1030 "kits" with which to experiment. A
company called "Howes" (now defunct) in the UK used to offer an
active whip antenna kit called the AA2. It was just the PCB and
components and you had to supply the whip and case. That little kit
gave me hours of fun designing a really top notch case and fibreglass
radome assembly. I ended up buying several AA2's for all sorts of
fun 'E' Field antenna experiments :-)

Here is the quote from Johan.....

"We a in negotiation with a party who want to produce and sell the
antenna. So stay tuned"

Lets hope the kit option is still on the table.

Fraser

"We a in negotiation with a party who want to produce and sell the
antenna. So stay tuned"

Lets hope the kit option is still on the table.

Let me see if I can find out... I'm pretty sure theres a market for
both options TBH. Enough people who want to built such an antenna them
self and experiment with it, while other people simply are happy to
have an affordable alternative to a Wellbrook...

Hi,

Just discovered this "new" design.

Pity it's a receive only antenna.

There is a typo at the link: it's only wl1030.com

Thanks for sharing this work to all OM's :-))

73 de Jose' Silva / CT1AXG



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--- In loopantennas@..., Jose HF Silva <zehelmer@...> wrote:

Pity it's a receive only antenna.

There are a lot of websites with transmitting loop diagrams though.
Shouldnt be hard to dig up a few =)

Hello!
I am interested to see the components list and their approximate price of this DIY loop.
Is it possible? (Perhaps I missed something?)
Aimo.

Jeroen Kloppenburg <3mensions@...> wrote:
--- In loopantennas@..., "Fraser" <fraser.castle@...>

I wrote and recieved the same prompt response. The response suggested
that the WL1030 loop may become available as a built loop. In some ways
this is good but in others it is a pity as I would wish to DIY the loop
in order to keep the costs down A fully built loop with all the
associated production costs and profit margins could end up with a cost
close to that of the Wellbrook ALA1530. Given that choice I would have
to go with the Wellbrook as it has a well proven track record.

Hmm what I understood from Johan in the contact we had over the past
week (quite extensive at times) is that its about delivering parts so
you'll still be building it yourself. But maybe plans have changed, I
don't know. I know quite sure that things are not yet set in stone,
hence I said any interested member of this (and other) group should
email them and express your interest ;)

DIY would be far more fun anyway. Anyone can buy a rx and antenna and
start receiving, building it really has its charm. And aside from
that, you can modify the antenna to suit your specific needs. The
building group we set up will release info with modifications later on
the page. Mods will include frequency changed due to different
ferrite's and windings, other cases, etc. Personally I have plans to
make an ala100 type of box for vacations for example, along with one
base model which will go on top of the roof here.






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