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Locked Homebrew Variable Capacitors


 

Hi All! New to the group, but not to radio. When I was a kid (very
long ago), we used to make our own variable capacitors. Basically,
we'd take a square of wood, varnish it well, and mount a square or
disc of aluminum in the center, and attach a lead to it. This became
the stator. A piece of celluloid (later plastic) was glued over this
stator plate, and a similar piece of aluminum with a lead attached
and a piece of phenolic rod glued in it's center, was placed on top
to become the rotor. Both leads were attached to the board by
fanstock clips. By manipulating (sliding) the rotor plate across the
stator plate, you could go from full mesh to wide open. A friend of
mine and fellow Boy Scout even took india ink and marked the receive
locations of his favorite stations on the celluloid, making
essentially, a rudimentary dial. Now, why am I bringing this all up
(other than to wallow in nostalgia)? It seems to me that variable
capacitors are becoming hard to find these days, and when you can
find them they're pricy, and usually have to be combined with other
items to make a "minimum purchase". Not good for a geezer like me,
living on a fixed income. Does anybody have any experience
homebrewing VCs? If so, maybe you could share some data or formulae
for scaling the plates. Well, talk with you all again soon, Karl


 

Karl,

Glad to meetcha!

I just uploaded KI6GD's Capacitor Calculator program which you will
find in the Files section.

This program takes the plate area, spacing and number of plates then
calculates the capacitance and voltage rating. It does not take into
account any dielectric other than air (dielectric constant = 1) but
you can "fudge" that in if you know the constant for the material.
Just multiply the capacitance as given by the calculator by the
dielectric constant to get a ballpark figure. Other dielectrics will
also affect the voltage rating, of course.

It would be interesting to find a source for curves defining Straight
Line Capacitance, Straight Line Frequency and Straight Line
Wavelength plate areas. I have looked for them but have not been able
to find them. I used to have some of these years and years ago but
they have long since vanished.

73,

'Bear' NH7SR

--- In loopantennas@..., "Karl" <portlypaddler@y...>
wrote:
Hi All! New to the group, but not to radio. When I was a kid (very
long ago), we used to make our own variable capacitors. Basically,
we'd take a square of wood, varnish it well, and mount a square or
disc of aluminum in the center, and attach a lead to it. This
became
the stator. A piece of celluloid (later plastic) was glued over
this
stator plate, and a similar piece of aluminum with a lead attached
and a piece of phenolic rod glued in it's center, was placed on top
to become the rotor. Both leads were attached to the board by
fanstock clips. By manipulating (sliding) the rotor plate across
the
stator plate, you could go from full mesh to wide open. A friend of
mine and fellow Boy Scout even took india ink and marked the
receive
locations of his favorite stations on the celluloid, making
essentially, a rudimentary dial. Now, why am I bringing this all up
(other than to wallow in nostalgia)? It seems to me that variable
capacitors are becoming hard to find these days, and when you can
find them they're pricy, and usually have to be combined with other
items to make a "minimum purchase". Not good for a geezer like me,
living on a fixed income. Does anybody have any experience
homebrewing VCs? If so, maybe you could share some data or formulae
for scaling the plates. Well, talk with you all again soon, Karl


 

Michael, thank you very much indeed. I've already downloaded the
calculator and have been playing with it. I've got a table of
dialectric constants around here someplace, and should be happily
homebrewing soon. Thanks again, Karl--- In
loopantennas@..., "Michael Hebert" <qrpbear@y...> wrote:
Karl,

Glad to meetcha!

I just uploaded KI6GD's Capacitor Calculator program which you will
find in the Files section.

This program takes the plate area, spacing and number of plates
then
calculates the capacitance and voltage rating. It does not take
into
account any dielectric other than air (dielectric constant = 1) but
you can "fudge" that in if you know the constant for the material.
Just multiply the capacitance as given by the calculator by the
dielectric constant to get a ballpark figure. Other dielectrics
will
also affect the voltage rating, of course.

It would be interesting to find a source for curves defining
Straight
Line Capacitance, Straight Line Frequency and Straight Line
Wavelength plate areas. I have looked for them but have not been
able
to find them. I used to have some of these years and years ago but
they have long since vanished.

73,

'Bear' NH7SR

--- In loopantennas@..., "Karl" <portlypaddler@y...>
wrote:
Hi All! New to the group, but not to radio. When I was a kid
(very
long ago), we used to make our own variable capacitors.
Basically,
we'd take a square of wood, varnish it well, and mount a square
or
disc of aluminum in the center, and attach a lead to it. This
became
the stator. A piece of celluloid (later plastic) was glued over
this
stator plate, and a similar piece of aluminum with a lead
attached
and a piece of phenolic rod glued in it's center, was placed on
top
to become the rotor. Both leads were attached to the board by
fanstock clips. By manipulating (sliding) the rotor plate across
the
stator plate, you could go from full mesh to wide open. A friend
of
mine and fellow Boy Scout even took india ink and marked the
receive
locations of his favorite stations on the celluloid, making
essentially, a rudimentary dial. Now, why am I bringing this all
up
(other than to wallow in nostalgia)? It seems to me that variable
capacitors are becoming hard to find these days, and when you can
find them they're pricy, and usually have to be combined with
other
items to make a "minimum purchase". Not good for a geezer like
me,
living on a fixed income. Does anybody have any experience
homebrewing VCs? If so, maybe you could share some data or
formulae
for scaling the plates. Well, talk with you all again soon, Karl


Barry Savage
 

Hello All:
I, too, have been playing around with this idea.? Some time ago, I bought a couple of tin (yes, real tin) plates at a hobby shop.? They were about 4X6 inches in size, and I soldered a wire to a corner of each plate, and then put them face to face with a piece of plastic wrap between them.? I bored a hole through them on one corner and attached them together with a nylon bolt and nut so I could slide them across each other.? I attached this variable capacitor to my spider-web-coil crystal set and was amazed to find it very selective.? I imagine you could do a better job using double-sided PCB material, and cut it to shape using a Dremel tool.? Then you could make multiple-plate caps very nearly like the real thing.
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So, I looked up the formula for capacitance and plate area in the ARRL handbook, and confirmed that it was in the right range.? Also, the dialectric constant of various materials is in a table near this formula.? For those of you who don't have the ARRL handbook, I would recommend it very highly.?
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I have often thought that if I ever get back into programming (Nah!, I'm retired, and gardening is a lot more fun than programming.? That was for when I was young, driven, egoistic and dumb) I would try to build a designer's Swiss army knife by combining all the formulas in the ARRL handbook.? I'm sure someone has already done this.
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Good luck with your project!? Humm, now if we had a machinist with us, mebbe they could turn the little slots in the shaft to accept the plates made by the sheet metal worker....
Later,
Barry
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