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The following items have been added to the Files area of the loopantennas@groups.io group.

By: Mark Whittington AG5RT <mark-whittington@...>

Description:
LZ1AQ loop amplifier noise reduction I ran an LTSPICE noise analysis of the original LZ1AQ circuit connected to a 3.3 uH loop. I also performed some bench measurements to verify the SPICE results. The analysis and measurements both indicate placing 47 uH inductors in series with the 51 Ohm input emitter bias resistors cuts input referred noise by 2 to 3 dB. This is a substantial reduction. Gain is little effected. Loop diameter can be reduced while maintaining the same input-referred noise level as the original setup. The LTSPICE listings share this directory. Mark AG5RT


 

Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place

Paul VE3PVB

On Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 10:12:17 p.m. EDT, Group Notification <noreply@groups.io> wrote:


The following items have been added to the Files area of the loopantennas@groups.io group.

By: Mark Whittington AG5RT <mark-whittington@...>

Description:
LZ1AQ loop amplifier noise reduction I ran an LTSPICE noise analysis of the original LZ1AQ circuit connected to a 3.3 uH loop. I also performed some bench measurements to verify the SPICE results. The analysis and measurements both indicate placing 47 uH inductors in series with the 51 Ohm input emitter bias resistors cuts input referred noise by 2 to 3 dB. This is a substantial reduction. Gain is little effected. Loop diameter can be reduced while maintaining the same input-referred noise level as the original setup. The LTSPICE listings share this directory. Mark AG5RT


 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:28 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place
East German???? To what are you referring?
As far as I am aware, the LZ1AQ loop amplifier is this one:
?
Dan - K3GMQ


 




On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 01:58:00 a.m. EDT, Dan Clementi <dan@...> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:28 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place
East German???? To what are you referring?
As far as I am aware, the LZ1AQ loop amplifier is this one:
?
Dan - K3GMQ


 

Complementary Push-Pull
Amplifiers for Active Antennas:
A Critical Review
by
Chris Trask / N7ZWY
Sonoran Radio Research
P.O. Box 25240
Tempe, AZ 85285-5240


Dan, this paper contains the East German KA-1000 design...please download

Paul?? VE3PVB
On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 01:58:00 a.m. EDT, Dan Clementi <dan@...> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 12:28 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place
East German???? To what are you referring?
As far as I am aware, the LZ1AQ loop amplifier is this one:
?
Dan - K3GMQ


 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 04:10 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place
There is also this German design that uses the inductors:? ?"Aktiv empangen mit neuen Ideen" (new ideas for active reception)?
?
This may have been the inspiration for the LZ1AQ design.
?
Mark


 

Dear Mark

can you send me the reference directly to me

thanks

Paul? VE3PVB

On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 07:39:27 a.m. EDT, Mark Whittington AG5RT <mark-whittington@...> wrote:


On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 04:10 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
Maybe that is why the original East German design had a suitable inductor in the same place
There is also this German design that uses the inductors:? ?"Aktiv empangen mit neuen Ideen" (new ideas for active reception)?
?
This may have been the inspiration for the LZ1AQ design.
?
Mark


 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 05:15 AM, Paul V Birke wrote:
can you send me the reference directly to me
Hi Paul,
?
Is the link not working?? If not, you can search on the German word "aktiv" in the files section.? If that does not work, you can contact me directly:? mark-whittington@...
?
Mark


 

Tell me, what you need, i have both papers available.
?
regards, Fred


 

Dear Fred

Please send both papers to me directly.? thanks in advance.

best Paul? VE3PVB

On Thursday, March 20, 2025 at 09:09:20 a.m. EDT, Fred M via groups.io <dl4zao@...> wrote:


Tell me, what you need, i have both papers available.
?
regards, Fred