Hello,
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I'm in the process of setting my shack back up and want to use Linux.? Years ago I used a singalink USB and cat cable that runs to an Edgeport USB converter to connect to my pc.? This worked fine in Windows, but i'm not sure how to get everything talking in Linux.? I've tried searching for a "get started" guide but i'm not having any luck / a bit out of my depth here.? Can anyone recommend a good tutorial to set up an FT-950 in linux to use rig control and digital modes?? Any helpful tips appreciated!
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Joe - KC9LFP
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Joseph
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I have been using Linux Mint Debian Edition for many years now. I have had no problem using my SignaLink on my Yeasue rig.?
I also run all the NBEMS software natively, including NetLogger.
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My system is a totaly Linux system now but previously I was dual booting with W10. I have since replace all the Windoz apps with
native Linux apps and now I do not need Windoz at all.
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The setup of the SignaLink is pretty straightforward from the documentation. But, the USB port works best if it is not on a hub...
although it will sort of work from a lightly loaded hub.
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If you need some guidance with Linux, seek help from a mentor. Or, contact me directly. It is not hard if you get started right.
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:16:38 -0700 "Joseph Brault, KC9LFP via groups.io" <kc9lfp@...> wrote: Hello,
I'm in the process of setting my shack back up and want to use Linux. Years ago I used a singalink USB and cat cable that runs to an Edgeport USB converter to connect to my pc.? This worked fine in Windows, but i'm not sure how to get everything talking in Linux. I've tried searching for a "get started" guide but i'm not having any luck / a bit out of my depth here.? Can anyone recommend a good tutorial to set up an FT-950 in linux to use rig control and digital modes?? Any helpful tips appreciated! With the Signalink you basically have an external modem in there, a TI PCM290x series chip. Linux will recognise it (probably shown as TI or Texas Instruments but may also be called Burr-Brown) and it will probably appear as /dev/ttyUSB0, although the 0 could be another number. You should be able to see it appear and disappear as you plug it in and out by using ls -al /dev/ttyUSB* in a console window. Note that your Linux user ID will need to be a member of the dialout group or you won't have access to these devices from a non-root account. Then you select the radio type and modem path in your programs and it should just work. Quite a while since I used an FT-950, I sold mine several years ago. -- Brian G8SEZ
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" it will probably appear as /dev/ttyUSB0, although the 0 could be another"
That's not the signalink, that would be the serial?port for CAT
Thanks Dan KC2STA
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On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 10:06?AM Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via <bdm= [email protected]> wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:16:38 -0700
"Joseph Brault, KC9LFP via " <kc9lfp=[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm in the process of setting my shack back up and want to use Linux.
>? Years ago I used a singalink USB and cat cable that runs to an
> Edgeport USB converter to connect to my pc.? This worked fine in
> Windows, but i'm not sure how to get everything talking in Linux.
> I've tried searching for a "get started" guide but i'm not having any
> luck / a bit out of my depth here.? Can anyone recommend a good
> tutorial to set up an FT-950 in linux to use rig control and digital
> modes?? Any helpful tips appreciated!
With the Signalink you basically have an external modem in there,
a TI PCM290x series chip. Linux will recognise it (probably shown as
TI or Texas Instruments but may also be called Burr-Brown) and it will
probably appear as /dev/ttyUSB0, although the 0 could be another
number. You should be able to see it appear and disappear as you plug
it in and out by using ls -al /dev/ttyUSB* in a console window.
Note that your Linux user ID will need to be a member of the dialout
group or you won't have access to these devices from a non-root account.
Then you select the radio type and modem path in your programs and it
should just work. Quite a while since I used an FT-950, I sold mine
several years ago.
--
Brian? G8SEZ
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:57:07 -0400 "Dan KC2STA via groups.io" <dan.ziolkowski@...> wrote: " it will probably appear as /dev/ttyUSB0, although the 0 could be another"
That's not the signalink, that would be the serial port for CAT My mistake, tired old brain mis-thinking again. Yes, the FT-950 CAT is done via a USB->serial lead and the audio device is whatever the Signalink appears as, a PCM290x Audio CODEC. It's quite a lot of years since I had my FT-950 set up with the serial and Signalink. Too used to newer radios with built-in USB hub and CAT and audio via the same USB cable. -- Brian G8SEZ
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I think you should be aware that Linux makes a distinction between a USB port and a serial port at a DB9 or DB25. It is even diferent in the devices in /dev folder of available devices. USB ports are often desiganted as USBn (i.e. USB plus a serial id from zero to n). and serial ports like RS232 are designated as TTYn (i.e. serial port TTY plus zero to n).?
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The RS232 device common on older computers, can be connected directly to a serial port on your SignaLink if it of the serial port version. Otherwise, if you have a serial port version of the SignaLink,? use a USB port adapter for serial ports.
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In the case of the USB version of the SignaLink,? it is plug-and-play and you have available USB ports on your computer.
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As far as the 950 goes, you do not want to use the SignaLink to mic adapter unless there is no other options. That is due to the way a mic is handled internally (i.e. compressor, eq. , etc.) The preferred option is the aux port on the rear panel and the SignaLink adapter cable for the 950.
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When selecting the USB port (or serial port) Linux may list it with the CODEC name rather than the port name. Same for FLDIGI or WSJT-X. Try using the port with the CODEC name first. There are also options in the SignaLink box that my need configuration. There is very good documentation on the Tigertronics web page. Some trial and error may be needed to get it set up properly.
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I found this on another web page that may be helpful. Settings for the FT-950 (caution-baud rate of more than 4800 baud may not be reliable):
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- SET RECEIVE WIDTH FROM FRONT PANEL TO MAX in PKT/USB mode, 2400.
- Noise Blanker and any receive DSP OFF, to avoid distortion.
- SET AGC TO OFF BY PUSHING AND HOLDING THE AGC BUTTON. You didn't know you had anything but AUTO, SLOW, MED, FAST, did you? Use RF gain to prevent overload on the waterfall. Keep the lower left hand bar graph below 70 dB and in the GREEN.
- 111 TGEN TX PWR = 35. This is nominal power for my Ameritron linear. It also avoids any ALC action at up to 20 watt power levels controlled by the PWR slider on the FT8 window, and the TX level knob on the Tigertronics box. It also covers you if something goes nuts to prevent overdrive to 100 watt level. It also protects the amplifier from overdrive, if you are using one. My Ameritron ALS-1300 works correct for most of the bands at this level, but beware that 12 and 10 meters should never be driven higher than the level stated in the manual.
- 064 J3E TX BPF = 4 - 26 or 400 to 2600 for minimum distortion when using an audio derived mode.
- 114 TGEN VOX = dAtA (only necessary when using VOX, NOT the hardware PTT on RTS in the RT systems CAT cable.)
- MODE-DATA GROUP:
- 050 DATA DT GAIN = 30 (Sets range of TX knob on Tigertronics)
- 051 DATA OUT LVL = 15 (Sets range of RX knob on Tigertronics)
- 052 DATA VOX DLY = 30 (Not used with CAT control)
- 053 DATA V GAIN = 50 (Not used with CAT control)
- 054 DATA PKT DISP = 0
- 055 DATA PKT SFT = 1000 (center of the spectrum in the waterfall)
- BAUD RATE = 4800
- DATA BITS = EIGHT
- STOP BITS = 2
- HANDSHAKE = XON/XOFF
- FORCE CONTROL LINES:
- DTR = HIGH
- RTS = HIGH
This actually is used to send power to work the Tigertronics box, not rig control.
- PTT METHOD BOX, SELECT: CAT which is a much more positive method than VOX
- TRANSMIT AUDIO SOURCE IS GREYED OUT (NO CHOICE)
- MODE = DATA/PKT
- SPLIT OPERATION = NONE
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Thanks everyone for the info!? My learning continues :)
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I think you should be aware that Linux makes a distinction between a USB port and a serial port at a DB9 or DB25. It is even diferent in the devices in /dev folder of available devices. USB ports are often desiganted as USBn (i.e. USB plus a serial id from zero to n). and serial ports like RS232 are designated as TTYn (i.e. serial port TTY plus zero to n).?
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The RS232 device common on older computers, can be connected directly to a serial port on your SignaLink if it of the serial port version. Otherwise, if you have a serial port version of the SignaLink,? use a USB port adapter for serial ports.
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In the case of the USB version of the SignaLink,? it is plug-and-play and you have available USB ports on your computer.
?
As far as the 950 goes, you do not want to use the SignaLink to mic adapter unless there is no other options. That is due to the way a mic is handled internally (i.e. compressor, eq. , etc.) The preferred option is the aux port on the rear panel and the SignaLink adapter cable for the 950.
?
When selecting the USB port (or serial port) Linux may list it with the CODEC name rather than the port name. Same for FLDIGI or WSJT-X. Try using the port with the CODEC name first. There are also options in the SignaLink box that my need configuration. There is very good documentation on the Tigertronics web page. Some trial and error may be needed to get it set up properly.
?
I found this on another web page that may be helpful. Settings for the FT-950 (caution-baud rate of more than 4800 baud may not be reliable):
?
- SET RECEIVE WIDTH FROM FRONT PANEL TO MAX in PKT/USB mode, 2400.
- Noise Blanker and any receive DSP OFF, to avoid distortion.
- SET AGC TO OFF BY PUSHING AND HOLDING THE AGC BUTTON. You didn't know you had anything but AUTO, SLOW, MED, FAST, did you? Use RF gain to prevent overload on the waterfall. Keep the lower left hand bar graph below 70 dB and in the GREEN.
- 111 TGEN TX PWR = 35. This is nominal power for my Ameritron linear. It also avoids any ALC action at up to 20 watt power levels controlled by the PWR slider on the FT8 window, and the TX level knob on the Tigertronics box. It also covers you if something goes nuts to prevent overdrive to 100 watt level. It also protects the amplifier from overdrive, if you are using one. My Ameritron ALS-1300 works correct for most of the bands at this level, but beware that 12 and 10 meters should never be driven higher than the level stated in the manual.
- 064 J3E TX BPF = 4 - 26 or 400 to 2600 for minimum distortion when using an audio derived mode.
- 114 TGEN VOX = dAtA (only necessary when using VOX, NOT the hardware PTT on RTS in the RT systems CAT cable.)
- MODE-DATA GROUP:
- 050 DATA DT GAIN = 30 (Sets range of TX knob on Tigertronics)
- 051 DATA OUT LVL = 15 (Sets range of RX knob on Tigertronics)
- 052 DATA VOX DLY = 30 (Not used with CAT control)
- 053 DATA V GAIN = 50 (Not used with CAT control)
- 054 DATA PKT DISP = 0
- 055 DATA PKT SFT = 1000 (center of the spectrum in the waterfall)
- BAUD RATE = 4800
- DATA BITS = EIGHT
- STOP BITS = 2
- HANDSHAKE = XON/XOFF
- FORCE CONTROL LINES:
- DTR = HIGH
- RTS = HIGH
This actually is used to send power to work the Tigertronics box, not rig control.
- PTT METHOD BOX, SELECT: CAT which is a much more positive method than VOX
- TRANSMIT AUDIO SOURCE IS GREYED OUT (NO CHOICE)
- MODE = DATA/PKT
- SPLIT OPERATION = NONE
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The port to use may show up as USB or ACM
Before you turn on the radio?with USB cable connected, open a terminal?and type
?ls /dev/tty*
this will show all tty ports
turn on radio
again run?
?ls /dev/tty*
what is new?
could be ttyUSB0 or ttyACM0
That is the port to use.
Also be sure to be a member of "dialout" group
in Terminal?
?sudo usermod -aG <group_name> <username>
log out , log in?
in terminal
groups username
to confirm membership?in group
Thanks Dan KC2STA
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 12:24?PM Joseph Brault, KC9LFP via <kc9lfp= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks everyone for the info!? My learning continues :)
I think you should be aware that Linux makes a distinction between a USB port and a serial port at a DB9 or DB25. It is even diferent in the devices in /dev folder of available devices. USB ports are often desiganted as USBn (i.e. USB plus a serial id from zero to n). and serial ports like RS232 are designated as TTYn (i.e. serial port TTY plus zero to n).?
?
The RS232 device common on older computers, can be connected directly to a serial port on your SignaLink if it of the serial port version. Otherwise, if you have a serial port version of the SignaLink,? use a USB port adapter for serial ports.
?
In the case of the USB version of the SignaLink,? it is plug-and-play and you have available USB ports on your computer.
?
As far as the 950 goes, you do not want to use the SignaLink to mic adapter unless there is no other options. That is due to the way a mic is handled internally (i.e. compressor, eq. , etc.) The preferred option is the aux port on the rear panel and the SignaLink adapter cable for the 950.
?
When selecting the USB port (or serial port) Linux may list it with the CODEC name rather than the port name. Same for FLDIGI or WSJT-X. Try using the port with the CODEC name first. There are also options in the SignaLink box that my need configuration. There is very good documentation on the Tigertronics web page. Some trial and error may be needed to get it set up properly.
?
I found this on another web page that may be helpful. Settings for the FT-950 (caution-baud rate of more than 4800 baud may not be reliable):
?
- SET RECEIVE WIDTH FROM FRONT PANEL TO MAX in PKT/USB mode, 2400.
- Noise Blanker and any receive DSP OFF, to avoid distortion.
- SET AGC TO OFF BY PUSHING AND HOLDING THE AGC BUTTON. You didn't know you had anything but AUTO, SLOW, MED, FAST, did you? Use RF gain to prevent overload on the waterfall. Keep the lower left hand bar graph below 70 dB and in the GREEN.
- 111 TGEN TX PWR = 35. This is nominal power for my Ameritron linear. It also avoids any ALC action at up to 20 watt power levels controlled by the PWR slider on the FT8 window, and the TX level knob on the Tigertronics box. It also covers you if something goes nuts to prevent overdrive to 100 watt level. It also protects the amplifier from overdrive, if you are using one. My Ameritron ALS-1300 works correct for most of the bands at this level, but beware that 12 and 10 meters should never be driven higher than the level stated in the manual.
- 064 J3E TX BPF = 4 - 26 or 400 to 2600 for minimum distortion when using an audio derived mode.
- 114 TGEN VOX = dAtA (only necessary when using VOX, NOT the hardware PTT on RTS in the RT systems CAT cable.)
- MODE-DATA GROUP:
- 050 DATA DT GAIN = 30 (Sets range of TX knob on Tigertronics)
- 051 DATA OUT LVL = 15 (Sets range of RX knob on Tigertronics)
- 052 DATA VOX DLY = 30 (Not used with CAT control)
- 053 DATA V GAIN = 50 (Not used with CAT control)
- 054 DATA PKT DISP = 0
- 055 DATA PKT SFT = 1000 (center of the spectrum in the waterfall)
- BAUD RATE = 4800
- DATA BITS = EIGHT
- STOP BITS = 2
- HANDSHAKE = XON/XOFF
- FORCE CONTROL LINES:
- DTR = HIGH
- RTS = HIGH
This actually is used to send power to work the Tigertronics box, not rig control.
- PTT METHOD BOX, SELECT: CAT which is a much more positive method than VOX
- TRANSMIT AUDIO SOURCE IS GREYED OUT (NO CHOICE)
- MODE = DATA/PKT
- SPLIT OPERATION = NONE
-- Dan Ziolkowski KC2STA SKCC #4290T Ubuntu LINUX
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From hard won experience with Linux and USB-Serial adapters.
Bite the bullet, and buy some "genuine" FTDI chipset based devices.? They have unique USB serial numbers, that can be used with 'UDEV Rules' to reliably create such serial port ID's as "/dev/ttyFT950" regardless how it is connected to the PC, direct or via a USB Hub.? And that will stay the same for each session too, 100% repeatable and reliable.
In the UK, Technofix are a good supplier of such devices..
Avoid Prolific and similar chipset based devices, many online selkers are selling fakes!? In their defence, they don't know either!
73.
Dave G0WBX.
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I am using a Raspberry Pi 400 with my FT-991A?? not exactly what you have..but it's a single cable connection..for audio and CAT. I also use Linux Mint and it is a good choice for someone coming from Windoze..
You will be able to run WSJT-X and Fldigi on any Linux machine except ARCH...as it's a stripped down Linux variant with no GUI (test only..
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I'm not sure exactly what programs in Ham Radio you are interested in... So before you purchase hardware, check the internet for the program you are interested in having a Linux variant.
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Larry W8LM
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While Arch Linux does not come with a pre installed GUI, you can install the desktop environment of your choice and then install WSJT-X and Fldigi. Both are available in the Arch User Repository. With that said, Arch is probably not a good choice for a new Linux user or for someone looking for plug and play applications.
73, Tim WS4V?
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 4:16 PM Larry Macionski, W8LM via <am_fm_radio= [email protected]> wrote: I am using a Raspberry Pi 400 with my FT-991A?? not exactly what you have..but it's a single cable connection..for audio and CAT. I also use Linux Mint and it is a good choice for someone coming from Windoze..
You will be able to run WSJT-X and Fldigi on any Linux machine except ARCH...as it's a stripped down Linux variant with no GUI (test only..
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I'm not sure exactly what programs in Ham Radio you are interested in... So before you purchase hardware, check the internet for the program you are interested in having a Linux variant.
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Larry W8LM
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But Manjaro is a good choice. It's easy to install, comes with your choice of GUI...and is based on ArchLinux....i.e. ALL good.
Es vy 73 on de Baab w9ya
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On Monday, March 17, 2025, WS4V Tim Richardson via <groupsrichart= [email protected]> wrote: > While Arch Linux does not come with a pre installed GUI, you can install the desktop environment of your choice and then install WSJT-X and Fldigi. Both are available in the Arch User Repository. With that said, Arch is probably not a good choice for a new Linux user or for someone looking for plug and play applications. > 73, Tim WS4V? > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 4:16 PM Larry Macionski, W8LM via <am_fm_radio= [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am using a Raspberry Pi 400 with my FT-991A?? not exactly what you have..but it's a single cable connection..for audio and CAT. I also use Linux Mint and it is a good choice for someone coming from Windoze.. >> You will be able to run WSJT-X and Fldigi on any Linux machine except ARCH...as it's a stripped down Linux variant with no GUI (test only.. >> ? >> I'm not sure exactly what programs in Ham Radio you are interested in... So before you purchase hardware, check the internet for the program you are interested in having a Linux variant. >> ? >> Larry W8LM > > _._,_._,_ > ________________________________ > 开云体育 Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#54279) | Reply to Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [ w9ya.ham@...] > > _._,_._,_
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Instead of downloading Fldigi and the rest of the ham programs,? try downloading the installer from KM4ACK or Andy's Ham Linux. I use KM4ACKs version of installer. It covers about anything Ham radio. You run an install script and watch the magic happen. It will work on any computer with Linux on it. I have it running on Linux Mint .
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 4:48?PM Adrian Fewster, VK4TUX via <vk4tux= [email protected]> wrote:
When you tire of the copycats, you can always use? 'Debian'
On 18/3/25 07:44, Bob Finch, W9YA via
wrote:
But Manjaro is a good choice. It's easy to install, comes with
your choice of GUI...and is based on ArchLinux....i.e. ALL good.
Es vy 73 on de Baab w9ya
On Monday, March 17, 2025, WS4V Tim Richardson via
<groupsrichart=[email protected]>
wrote:
> While Arch Linux does not come with a pre installed GUI, you
can install the desktop environment of your choice and then
install WSJT-X and Fldigi. Both are available in the Arch User
Repository. With that said, Arch is probably not a good choice for
a new Linux user or for someone looking for plug and play
applications.
> 73, Tim WS4V?
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 4:16 PM Larry Macionski, W8LM via
<am_fm_radio=[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>> I am using a Raspberry Pi 400 with my FT-991A?? not
exactly what you have..but it's a single cable connection..for
audio and CAT. I also use Linux Mint and it is a good choice for
someone coming from Windoze..
>> You will be able to run WSJT-X and Fldigi on any Linux
machine except ARCH...as it's a stripped down Linux variant with
no GUI (test only..
>> ?
>> I'm not sure exactly what programs in Ham Radio you are
interested in... So before you purchase hardware, check the
internet for the program you are interested in having a Linux
variant.
>> ?
>> Larry W8LM
>
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Debian is not a parent of ArchLinux, so ArchLinux is definitely not a copycat...examine both the package management, file locations, etc.
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On Monday, March 17, 2025, Adrian Fewster, VK4TUX via <vk4tux= [email protected]> wrote: > When you tire of the copycats, you can always use? 'Debian' > > > > On 18/3/25 07:44, Bob Finch, W9YA via wrote: > > But Manjaro is a good choice. It's easy to install, comes with your choice of GUI...and is based on ArchLinux....i.e. ALL good. > > Es vy 73 on de Baab w9ya > > On Monday, March 17, 2025, WS4V Tim Richardson via <groupsrichart= [email protected]> wrote: >> While Arch Linux does not come with a pre installed GUI, you can install the desktop environment of your choice and then install WSJT-X and Fldigi. Both are available in the Arch User Repository. With that said, Arch is probably not a good choice for a new Linux user or for someone looking for plug and play applications. >> 73, Tim WS4V? >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 4:16 PM Larry Macionski, W8LM via <am_fm_radio= [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I am using a Raspberry Pi 400 with my FT-991A?? not exactly what you have..but it's a single cable connection..for audio and CAT. I also use Linux Mint and it is a good choice for someone coming from Windoze.. >>> You will be able to run WSJT-X and Fldigi on any Linux machine except ARCH...as it's a stripped down Linux variant with no GUI (test only.. >>> ? >>> I'm not sure exactly what programs in Ham Radio you are interested in... So before you purchase hardware, check the internet for the program you are interested in having a Linux variant. >>> ? >>> Larry W8LM >> > > _._,_._,_ > ________________________________ > 开云体育 Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#54281) | Reply to Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [ w9ya.ham@...] > > _._,_._,_
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