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FT8 Ops in Unix

 

I¡¯m currently using Ham Radio Deluxe, WSJT-X and Grid Tracker on my Win 10 machine. Works very well. I¡¯m considering switching to Unix. My understanding is that HRD is a Windows Ap and will not work on Unix unless used on a VM. I¡¯m guessing that I would install a VM on Unix and run all three of my FT8 programs in windows. All suggestions welcome.
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de Fred W0SP
 

Not familiar with Grid Tracker.? But Fldigi and WSJT-X run well on most versions of Linux.? It would be simpler to install those natively on a Linux system.? Maybe somebody here can give you suggestions for a Linux equivalent of Grid Tracker.

73,
Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 3:32?PM Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP via <phredyh=[email protected]> wrote:

I¡¯m currently using Ham Radio Deluxe, WSJT-X and Grid Tracker on my Win 10 machine. Works very well. I¡¯m considering switching to Unix. My understanding is that HRD is a Windows Ap and will not work on Unix unless used on a VM. I¡¯m guessing that I would install a VM on Unix and run all three of my FT8 programs in windows. All suggestions welcome.
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de Fred W0SP
 

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?Harry¡­ thanks for the input. I¡¯d like to stick with HDR if I can. I¡¯m not sure what other?
Logging programs will operate as seamless as HDR¡­
73
Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP
Wheat Ridge, CO

On Jan 18, 2025, at 13:37, Harry Bloomberg, W3YJ via groups.io <hbloomb@...> wrote:

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Not familiar with Grid Tracker.? But Fldigi and WSJT-X run well on most versions of Linux.? It would be simpler to install those natively on a Linux system.? Maybe somebody here can give you suggestions for a Linux equivalent of Grid Tracker.

73,
Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 3:32?PM Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP via <phredyh=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯m currently using Ham Radio Deluxe, WSJT-X and Grid Tracker on my Win 10 machine. Works very well. I¡¯m considering switching to Unix. My understanding is that HRD is a Windows Ap and will not work on Unix unless used on a VM. I¡¯m guessing that I would install a VM on Unix and run all three of my FT8 programs in windows. All suggestions welcome.
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de Fred W0SP


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de Fred W0SP
 

If you plan to stay with HRD, then why not just stay with Windows?? Setting up a Linux machine and then running your ham station in a VM on the Linux machine is not overly complicated, but, it is quite a bit more involved than just plugging a USB into a native windows machine.
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HRD has no Linux version at the moment, though, they say they would like to do a Linux version someday.
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WSJT-X and Gridtracker both natively run on Linux.?
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73,
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Tim
KK9T
 

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Tim¡­. Good suggestion BUT I¡¯m really tired of windows and ready to move on¡­
Many ³Ù³ó²¹²Ô³æ¡­
73
Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP
Wheat Ridge, CO

On Jan 18, 2025, at 14:02, Tim Rife, KK9T via groups.io <lists@...> wrote:

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If you plan to stay with HRD, then why not just stay with Windows?? Setting up a Linux machine and then running your ham station in a VM on the Linux machine is not overly complicated, but, it is quite a bit more involved than just plugging a USB into a native windows machine.
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HRD has no Linux version at the moment, though, they say they would like to do a Linux version someday.
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WSJT-X and Gridtracker both natively run on Linux.?
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73,
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Tim
KK9T

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de Fred W0SP
 

GridTrracker will run natively on Linux. There is a Linux client for it already.

It runs great.

Same for Fldigi and it's family of apps. There are Linux versions.

Rick Kunath, K9AO
 

Fred,
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Don't blame you.? I was basically in the same boat a few months ago.? I had run my ham hobby on a windows, XP, 7, 10, and 11 machines along with lots of automation, rotor programs, contest programs, etc, etc.? I had reached the end of what I was willing to put up with on Windows and decided to make the switch.?
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I have not tried wine bottles or crossover as just mentioned.? Perhaps that is worth a try and maybe the best of both worlds.?
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73,
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Tim
 

Thanx Rick
Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP
Wheat Ridge, CO

On Jan 18, 2025, at 14:42, k9ao via groups.io <k9ao@...> wrote:

?GridTrracker will run natively on Linux. There is a Linux client for it already.

It runs great.

Same for Fldigi and it's family of apps. There are Linux versions.

Rick Kunath, K9AO




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de Fred W0SP
 

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Hi Adrian,

Can you provide specifics about what hamlib does not support. Maybe Mike can add these if they are not already in there.

Regards

Phil GM3ZZA

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Adrian Fewster, VK4TUX via groups.io <vk4tux@...>
Sent: 18 January 2025 9:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [linuxham] FT8 Ops in Unix
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That's right, I use linux Gridtracker2 which now has autoupdate (On all
OS)? alongside HRD under bottles, and linux wsjtx.

HRD provides a realiable radio interface for some radios that hamlib and
other 3rd party interfaces do not, supporting rig split? etc,

better without issue.

For macOS I compile my own wsjtx, but have also tried windows wsjtx
under crossover in MacOS with very good results.



73


vk4tux

On 19/1/25 07:42, k9ao via groups.io wrote:
> GridTrracker will run natively on Linux. There is a Linux client for
> it already.
>
> It runs great.
>
> Same for Fldigi and it's family of apps. There are Linux versions.
>
> Rick Kunath, K9AO
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Have you looked at CQRLOG in Linux?

Rick Kunath, K9AO
 

Thanx I¡¯ll have a look¡­
Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP
Wheat Ridge, CO

On Jan 18, 2025, at 15:10, k9ao via groups.io <k9ao@...> wrote:

?Have you looked at CQRLOG in Linux?

Rick Kunath, K9AO




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de Fred W0SP
 

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Guys,

I run all environments, however, most of my hamming today is run from Linux (Ubuntu and Mint).

Trying to leverage Wine is a non-starter for most - while I have gotten it to work in many cases, it was worse than staying on Windows. ?I have volunteered to beta HRD on Linux - I am not holding my breath.

Hit my QRZ page - listing of SW that I use.

73¡¯²õ



Glenn
WA6BJQ

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP via groups.io <phredyh@...>
Date: Saturday, January 18, 2025 at 2:14?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [linuxham] FT8 Ops in Unix

Thanx I¡¯ll have a look¡­
Fred Hollendorfer, W0SP
Wheat Ridge, CO

> On Jan 18, 2025, at 15:10, k9ao via groups.io <k9ao@...> wrote:
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> ?Have you looked at CQRLOG in Linux?
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> Rick Kunath, K9AO
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de Fred W0SP
 

True words Glenn...

I run Opensuse Tumbleweed Linux as my daily driver and I agree. If someone wants to go Linux, even though there are ways to run things that are Windows applications in virtual machines or using WINE or Codeweavers Crossover, you are best off switching over to native Linux equivalents.

Honestly, if you are committed to HRD and it's only a Windows application, it is better and simpler to just stay with Windows. If you are open to change then welcome over to the light side and Linux. Windows applications under some adaption on Linux are possible. But they aren't going to be as reliable and as simple as they are under their native OS.

I'm a huge Linux proponent. But switching has to make sense for what you are doing with the OS.

Rick Kunath, K9AO
 

there is no need to run an extra virtual maschine on linux/unix to have a windows-program running. the magic is called "wine" and let's say 99.9% of windows-applications can be run on ux*

wsjt-x and gridtracker are both available as linux programs. all the logging stuff works completely as you know from windows

73
OE6PLD, Peter
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Disclaimer: May be opened and read by the NSA, CIA, GCHQ, KGB, BND, and whoever else it may NOT concern.
 

Re:-
Have you looked at CQRLOG in Linux?

Or FlLog?

Or Cloud Log????

Not entirely "Free", but the author (Pete 2E0SQL) is a good guy, and knows what he's doing.

73.

Dave G0WBX

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Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using open source software:
 

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Yes.... Thanx I'm looking into Wine... 73 Fred


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Loeffler via groups.io <loepew@...>
Sent:?Sunday, January 19, 2025 3:20 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [linuxham] FT8 Ops in Unix
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there is no need to run an extra virtual maschine on linux/unix to have a windows-program running. the magic is called "wine" and let's say 99.9% of windows-applications can be run on ux*

wsjt-x and gridtracker are both available as linux programs. all the logging stuff works completely as you know from windows

73
OE6PLD, Peter
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Disclaimer: May be opened and read by the NSA, CIA, GCHQ, KGB, BND, and whoever else it may NOT concern.

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de Fred W0SP
 

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Peter thanx...

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Loeffler via groups.io <loepew@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 3:20 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [linuxham] FT8 Ops in Unix
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there is no need to run an extra virtual maschine on linux/unix to have a windows-program running. the magic is called "wine" and let's say 99.9% of windows-applications can be run on ux*

wsjt-x and gridtracker are both available as linux programs. all the logging stuff works completely as you know from windows

73
OE6PLD, Peter
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Disclaimer: May be opened and read by the NSA, CIA, GCHQ, KGB, BND, and whoever else it may NOT concern.

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de Fred W0SP
 

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Thanx ALL.... 73 Fred

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Adrian Fewster, VK4TUX via groups.io <vk4tux@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2025 9:26 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [linuxham] FT8 Ops in Unix
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I could not disagree more. HRD works great under many types of windows
emulators; wine, bottles, crossover.

All radio interface and port interactions with linux programs work as
well as they do in windows.

This is from someone that actually does it rather than having an
uninformed guess opinion...


73


vk4tux

On 19/1/25 15:20, k9ao via groups.io wrote:
> True words Glenn...
>
> I run Opensuse Tumbleweed Linux as my daily driver and I agree. If
> someone wants to go Linux, even though there are ways to run things
> that are Windows applications in virtual machines or using WINE or
> Codeweavers Crossover, you are best off switching over to native Linux
> equivalents.
>
> Honestly, if you are committed to HRD and it's only a Windows
> application, it is better and simpler to just stay with Windows. If
> you are open to change then welcome over to the light side and Linux.
> Windows applications under some adaption on Linux are possible. But
> they aren't going to be as reliable and as simple as they are under
> their native OS.
>
> I'm a huge Linux proponent. But switching has to make sense for what
> you are doing with the OS.
>
> Rick Kunath, K9AO
>
>
>
>
>






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de Fred W0SP
 

Look into QLog - It runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows. ?It integrates very well with WSJT-X / WSJT-X Improved, and Grid Tracker when configured with multicast. ?QLog supports LoTW, eQSL, QRZ, etc. ?IMO I find QLog to better than CQRLog. ?QLog does not require setting up ?mySQL or MariaDB, it uses SQLite. ?Linux in the Ham Shack has a podcast episode about QLog - . ?Right now QLog displays the UTC clock in a 12-hour format and requires an environment variable to be set to display in the 24-hour format. ?It looks like there is some work being done to change the clock format without needing to set the environment variable in an upcoming version.
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-Brian, KB3ORR
 

Unix/Linux
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Linux: Is considered to be "Unix-like". Likely the only thing to change will be the logging application, rest of the commonly used digi apps have Linux versions/binaries/source code available.
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Unix/Mac: macOS is a Unix based system, and the most widely used commercial Unix OS I would think today. Similar to Linux, likely only need to change the logging application, rest have macOS versions available.
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I tend to use which ever hardware/OS config best solves the need or use I have (based on what I have), so I have a bit of everything. For Ham radio I run an late 2015 27" iMac (5K display), the applications and their setup/config I have - even for non-mac there may be useful info there as much the configuration is the same.
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Each to their own, we have a lot of choices, find the setup that works best for you :-)
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Lonney
K1LH

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