On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.


73 Phil GM3ZZA

I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).


73 Phil GM3ZZA

Thanks Dave,

See in-line.

On 30/10/2024 17:08, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50



Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.

?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;

I think this should be 40, rather than 50 to keep the measurement in line with the number value. So the scale is now measuring dA (deciamps).

The attached (idd25-2A.png) is with the scale 25 (but image_idd50 - see below). Ignore the SWR - something has gone wrong with my antenna (I'll need to look at this in daylight - when we get any at 55N!) and both the actual rig display and external SWR bridge are showing high SWR. But the rig display itself is showing just over 2A, so 22 or 23 on the display looks right.

Then change

void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image(image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial, "40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:

to image_idd50

Let us know if that works for you.

I found no differences between the two. See images (idd25 and idd50).

David

PS. After I change IC705.cxx and rerun make I get the following error message:

In file included from ./include/rigpanel.h:56,
???????????????? from ./include/rig.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/status.h:28,
???????????????? from ./include/rigbase.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/ICbase.h:25,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC746.h:24,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC705.h:26,
???????????????? from rigs/icom/IC705.cxx:29:
./include/flinput2.h:41:26: error: operator '>' has no left operand
?? 41 | #if FLRIG_FLTK_API_MINOR > 3
????? |????????????????????????? ^
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2100: rigs/icom/flrig-IC705.o] Error 1

Look's like there's a missing #include or #define. I have to run 'make distclean' etc to get a clean compile. Just running 'make clean' first also fails. This doesn't happen when I modify support.cxx.

Phil.

On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.


73 Phil GM3ZZA

I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).


73 Phil GM3ZZA

Updated the support code to auto select IDD meter at 5, 25 or 50 amp scale.? Posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 10/30/24 15:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave,

See in-line.

On 30/10/2024 17:08, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50



Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.

?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;

I think this should be 40, rather than 50 to keep the measurement in line with the number value. So the scale is now measuring dA (deciamps).

The attached (idd25-2A.png) is with the scale 25 (but image_idd50 - see below). Ignore the SWR - something has gone wrong with my antenna (I'll need to look at this in daylight - when we get any at 55N!) and both the actual rig display and external SWR bridge are showing high SWR. But the rig display itself is showing just over 2A, so 22 or 23 on the display looks right.

Then change

void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image(image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial, "40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:

to image_idd50

Let us know if that works for you.

I found no differences between the two. See images (idd25 and idd50).

David

PS. After I change IC705.cxx and rerun make I get the following error message:

In file included from ./include/rigpanel.h:56,
???????????????? from ./include/rig.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/status.h:28,
???????????????? from ./include/rigbase.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/ICbase.h:25,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC746.h:24,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC705.h:26,
???????????????? from rigs/icom/IC705.cxx:29:
./include/flinput2.h:41:26: error: operator '>' has no left operand
?? 41 | #if FLRIG_FLTK_API_MINOR > 3
????? |????????????????????????? ^
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2100: rigs/icom/flrig-IC705.o] Error 1

Look's like there's a missing #include or #define. I have to run 'make distclean' etc to get a clean compile. Just running 'make clean' first also fails. This doesn't happen when I modify support.cxx.

Phil.

On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.


73 Phil GM3ZZA

I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).


73 Phil GM3ZZA

Thanks Dave,

Obviously it's not got the mod I did to IC705.h/.cxx. But it selected the 5A range OK. I know it's a minor issue but the difference between the ALC and IDD scales was very obvious to me - the numbers don't align! The scales do, but the numbers don't - see image. They're a pixel or two out.

I'll rework the 705 code and get back to you.

Phil.

On 01/11/2024 17:11, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Updated the support code to auto select IDD meter at 5, 25 or 50 amp scale.? Posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 10/30/24 15:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave,

See in-line.

On 30/10/2024 17:08, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50



Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.

?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;

I think this should be 40, rather than 50 to keep the measurement in line with the number value. So the scale is now measuring dA (deciamps).

The attached (idd25-2A.png) is with the scale 25 (but image_idd50 - see below). Ignore the SWR - something has gone wrong with my antenna (I'll need to look at this in daylight - when we get any at 55N!) and both the actual rig display and external SWR bridge are showing high SWR. But the rig display itself is showing just over 2A, so 22 or 23 on the display looks right.

Then change

void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image(image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial, "40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:

to image_idd50

Let us know if that works for you.

I found no differences between the two. See images (idd25 and idd50).

David

PS. After I change IC705.cxx and rerun make I get the following error message:

In file included from ./include/rigpanel.h:56,
???????????????? from ./include/rig.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/status.h:28,
???????????????? from ./include/rigbase.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/ICbase.h:25,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC746.h:24,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC705.h:26,
???????????????? from rigs/icom/IC705.cxx:29:
./include/flinput2.h:41:26: error: operator '>' has no left operand
?? 41 | #if FLRIG_FLTK_API_MINOR > 3
????? |????????????????????????? ^
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2100: rigs/icom/flrig-IC705.o] Error 1

Look's like there's a missing #include or #define. I have to run 'make distclean' etc to get a clean compile. Just running 'make clean' first also fails. This doesn't happen when I modify support.cxx.

Phil.

On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.


73 Phil GM3ZZA

I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).


73 Phil GM3ZZA

Here are the two scale images expanded by x4




I'll check the xbm files, it might be a slight displacement to the left for the IDD scale.

Dave

On 11/1/24 14:27, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave,

Obviously it's not got the mod I did to IC705.h/.cxx. But it selected the 5A range OK. I know it's a minor issue but the difference between the ALC and IDD scales was very obvious to me - the numbers don't align! The scales do, but the numbers don't - see image. They're a pixel or two out.

I'll rework the 705 code and get back to you.

Phil.

On 01/11/2024 17:11, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Updated the support code to auto select IDD meter at 5, 25 or 50 amp scale.? Posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 10/30/24 15:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave,

See in-line.

On 30/10/2024 17:08, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

There is an IDD scale with a maximum of 50



Suggest you scale your 705 IDD measurement to a scale of 50.

?? ???? ??? mtr = 50.0 * mtr / 241.0;
?? ???? ??? if (mtr > 50) mtr = 50;

I think this should be 40, rather than 50 to keep the measurement in line with the number value. So the scale is now measuring dA (deciamps).

The attached (idd25-2A.png) is with the scale 25 (but image_idd50 - see below). Ignore the SWR - something has gone wrong with my antenna (I'll need to look at this in daylight - when we get any at 55N!) and both the actual rig display and external SWR bridge are showing high SWR. But the rig display itself is showing just over 2A, so 22 or 23 on the display looks right.

Then change

void cbALC_IDD_SWR()
{
?? ?switch (meter_image) {
?? ???? case ALC_IMAGE:
?? ???? ??? if (selrig->has_idd_control) {
?? ???? ??? ??? btnALC_IDD_SWR->image(image_idd25);
?? ???? ??? ??? meter_image = IDD_IMAGE;
?? ???? ??? ??? sldrIDD->show();
?? ???? ??? ??? {
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? guard_lock serial_lock(&mutex_serial, "40");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? trace(1, "cbALC_IDD_SWR()? 2");
?? ???? ??? ??? ??? selrig->select_idd();
?? ???? ??? ??? }
?? ???? ??? ??? break;
?? ???? ??? }
?? ???? case IDD_IMAGE:

to image_idd50

Let us know if that works for you.

I found no differences between the two. See images (idd25 and idd50).

David

PS. After I change IC705.cxx and rerun make I get the following error message:

In file included from ./include/rigpanel.h:56,
???????????????? from ./include/rig.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/status.h:28,
???????????????? from ./include/rigbase.h:38,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/ICbase.h:25,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC746.h:24,
???????????????? from ./include/icom/IC705.h:26,
???????????????? from rigs/icom/IC705.cxx:29:
./include/flinput2.h:41:26: error: operator '>' has no left operand
?? 41 | #if FLRIG_FLTK_API_MINOR > 3
????? |????????????????????????? ^
make[2]: *** [Makefile:2100: rigs/icom/flrig-IC705.o] Error 1

Look's like there's a missing #include or #define. I have to run 'make distclean' etc to get a clean compile. Just running 'make clean' first also fails. This doesn't happen when I modify support.cxx.

Phil.

On 10/30/24 10:20, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

On 30/10/2024 14:19, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W.


73 Phil GM3ZZA

I've copied the get_idd() method from IC-7300 and changed the calculation to max of 4A and it seems to work. It looks like the scale maximum of 25A is fixed. Modified IC705.h and IC705.cxx attached (based on this morning's download of alpha .77).


73 Phil GM3ZZA

79 posted at

commit c43cb315995a2e7b936a89e6831644aacba61133
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Nov 1 11:52:00 2024 -0600

??? alpha

commit b9b09c33f675afb7fa6aee5d6660e2d6c703ac97
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Nov 1 17:34:01 2024 -0500

??? FLTK 1.4.0
?? ?
????? * correct for Fl_Preferences change

commit 7cf5065f6e4784cffe018d2c42e0c42b5691d30a
Author: Philip Rose <[email protected]>
Date:?? Fri Nov 1 17:05:27 2024 -0500

??? IC705 update
?? ?
????? * changes to computation of IDD

commit dae09c473349c538f65f9f5821341759b19e527a
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Nov 1 17:00:03 2024 -0500

??? IDD scales
?? ?
????? * enable optional 4=5 amp scale
??????? . auto select 5, 25, 50 amp IDD range

73, David, W1HKJ

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)

Phil,

Please test 80 posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 11/2/24 17:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)

Sorry Dave,

I didn't see your post until late afternoon when I was just about to prepare the evening meal. I've now got around to testing this and it's not the best news. IDD is not showing for either the IC-705 or the IC-7300. Here is the screen shot for IC-7300.

Although there's power out I am not seeing IDD and I left it several seconds for the polling to take effect.

This happened as well with IC-705.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 13:56, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

Please test 80 posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 11/2/24 17:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)

The Swr/ALC/Idd is a left clickable widget.? Left click on it to rotate between readings.

Dave

On 11/3/24 13:50, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Sorry Dave,

I didn't see your post until late afternoon when I was just about to prepare the evening meal. I've now got around to testing this and it's not the best news. IDD is not showing for either the IC-705 or the IC-7300. Here is the screen shot for IC-7300.

Although there's power out I am not seeing IDD and I left it several seconds for the polling to take effect.

This happened as well with IC-705.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 13:56, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

Please test 80 posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 11/2/24 17:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)

I see that now.

Unfortunately the IDD value in the meters window does not appear until I've cycled the display in the main window through SWR/ALC/IDD.

This is the sequence I go through.

First screen with TX 50% carrier

Then click to ALC

And then to IDD.

It seems the only time I get IDD value displayed in the meters window is when I select IDD in the main window. If I now select SWR in the main window the IDD value in the meters window disappears.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 21:00, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

The Swr/ALC/Idd is a left clickable widget.? Left click on it to rotate between readings.

Dave

On 11/3/24 13:50, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Sorry Dave,

I didn't see your post until late afternoon when I was just about to prepare the evening meal. I've now got around to testing this and it's not the best news. IDD is not showing for either the IC-705 or the IC-7300. Here is the screen shot for IC-7300.

Although there's power out I am not seeing IDD and I left it several seconds for the polling to take effect.

This happened as well with IC-705.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 13:56, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

Please test 80 posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 11/2/24 17:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)

81 at should fix that problem.

David

On 11/3/24 16:29, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

I see that now.

Unfortunately the IDD value in the meters window does not appear until I've cycled the display in the main window through SWR/ALC/IDD.

This is the sequence I go through.

First screen with TX 50% carrier

Then click to ALC

And then to IDD.

It seems the only time I get IDD value displayed in the meters window is when I select IDD in the main window. If I now select SWR in the main window the IDD value in the meters window disappears.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 21:00, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

The Swr/ALC/Idd is a left clickable widget.? Left click on it to rotate between readings.

Dave

On 11/3/24 13:50, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Sorry Dave,

I didn't see your post until late afternoon when I was just about to prepare the evening meal. I've now got around to testing this and it's not the best news. IDD is not showing for either the IC-705 or the IC-7300. Here is the screen shot for IC-7300.

Although there's power out I am not seeing IDD and I left it several seconds for the polling to take effect.

This happened as well with IC-705.

Phil.

On 03/11/2024 13:56, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Phil,

Please test 80 posted at

73, David, W1HKJ

On 11/2/24 17:51, Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io wrote:

Hi Dave,

I just started to use my other rig (IC-7300) to operate FT8 on 40m and I noticed that the IDD scale had replaced the SWR scale on the main flrig window. (I changed the background colour to distinguish my two radios.)