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380 S2: Separating windlass from port engine #380s2


 

Hello
I am trying to find a way to separate the windlass from the port engine. At the moment it’s original, i. e. I can only operate the windlass when the port engine is running.?

?I know there is a thread on this forum where someone explains that the critical Relais is on the bulkhead under the sofa, close to the fridge. Interestingly it’s not like that in our boat (380 S2, 2008, Hull 519).?


Does anyone know where I have to look for that Relais/connection? I want to be able to run the windlass without a specific engine running - for safety reasons.?

Best regards from San Blas / Guna Yala, Panama in full Corona lockdown.?


Martin / SY PACHAMAMA?


 

Hi, i had the same problem on my 410 and i simply removed the relay that was next to my port engine, the current now flows unimpeded and this allowes me to be able to use the windlass without the engine running, i still start the engine when i want to use it but if my port engine failed i would be able to raise/lower my anchor, a major safety concern.
The relay was on the right side of the engine, a small green and white square.

Hope this helps,

Serge Thiffault
Lagoon 410S2 #156 Francesca In florida


 

Photo of mine and info document.
Clive Fedida
380S2 #420 Lady Caroline in Greece


 

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I removed the relay on my 440. ?I found that it worked by interrupting the ground on the windlass solenoid. ?I just wired that directly to ground and now you can run the windlass without an engine running.

Jerry


On Apr 19, 2020, at 9:39 AM, clive.fedida@... via <clive.fedida@...> wrote:

Photo of mine and info document.
Clive Fedida
380S2 #420 Lady Caroline in Greece <CIMG4579 - Windlass Switch.JPG><Windlass Switch - 36.16257.10 - .12.pdf>


 

Just curious, what are your safety reasons for wanting this?


 

The trip switches and relays for the windlass on our 380 are under the port bunk - in the cupboard under the bunk.


 

Jerry,
Where is the cutout relay on the 440? ?Port aft berth, engine or at the windlass control relay?
Thanks,

Scott
2007 Lagoon 440


 

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Scott,
Never really looked for it, didn’t need to. ?If you just wire the thin black wire that goes to the solenoid to ground you will be good to go. ?You can test it to see if there is continuity between that black wire to the solenoid to a known ground point without the engine running. ?There shouldn’t be. ?When you test it with the port engine running there should be...

I think I’ve run across the relay in my travels through the bowels of the boat. ?I might be under the aft port bunk, there are a few there or it might be in the engine room.

Jerry


On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Scott Stuckey <scottbstuckey@...> wrote:

Jerry,
Where is the cutout relay on the 440? ?Port aft berth, engine or at the windlass control relay?
Thanks,

Scott
2007 Lagoon 440



 

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I know the breaker is there under the bunk by the battery handle/switch. Is the relay there as well? You need to bypass the relay, not the breaker.


 

The relay circuit was on our port engine on our 2018 Lagoon 380 (Hull #822).

Here is a picture. We had a wire that had separated on the relay circuit, resulting in windlass not functioning. After much troubleshooting was finally able to trace it back to the relay and grounded it so now the windlass works when the engine is off (a safety improvement everyone should make IMO).

Frustrating that Lagoon just does this at the factory but doesn't include any info in the manual about it. I assume they do so at the behest of charter customers who don't want charter guests burning up batteries using the windlass without having engines running.

Attached is a picture of our relay circuit:


 

For me the relay was in the Port engine compartment, on the right when facing the engine. A small green/white square with wires out of the bottom, sorry no pictures since i removed the darn thing.

Serge thiffault
Lagoon 410S2 #156 Francesca


 

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So what exactly did you do to bypass the relay? I am assuming this is a NO relay, so did you just jump the wires to bridge the relay? Is the relay marked for the terminals?


 

I took the windlass ground connection off the relay switch and grounded it directly to the engine mount with the rest of the wiring ground connections.

The relay switch is still there because it controls the engine room blowers (which actually makes sense - i.e. to only have those run when the engine is on).

The relay switch is marked w/ the internal circuitry, but you can test it by grounding out each wire and testing the windlass with engine off to find the windlass ground wire.


 

The relay was on the negative, i just bypassed the relay by jumping the wires.

Serge thiffault
Lagoon 410S2 #156 Francesca

Sent


 

Thanks to everyone for all your valuable and helpful input!!
I finally found the relay on the left side of the port engine (green/white small “box”) and did exactly what Paul Griffin describes, taking the windlass cables off the relay and grounding them at the engine mount. It works perfectly. Glad it was that easy - thanks to all your ideas and experience.?

Best greetings from Guna Yala (San Blas), Panama
Martin Eckhardt?
PACHAMAMA