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Lagoon 380 Sail Upgrade

 

Hi
Has anyone got experience of type and size of sails (including sail material and sail shape) that would give a moderate upgrade in speed in coastal sailing up to 30 knots of wind.
If anyone has a recommended supplier, that would be of use too.
Thanks
 

You can talk to a sailmaker, he would need to know the measurements of your current sails and whether you are cruising or racing, he would then work from there. The way the sails are cut determines their shape. The type of material determines the price you will pay. I live in Australia so I use Rolly Tasker Sails I have used Quantum Sails, they make good cruising sails though they are expensive, Rollys are just as good and cheaper. I recently found out from Rolly that most sailmakers get their sails computer cut in Taiwan. Hey you must have some good sailmakers in NZ.
Hope this helps.

Happy Days Sailing
Frank Aquilina
SV. ARCTURUS



On Sunday, June 24, 2018, 7:11 pm, Frank NZ <frank@...> wrote:

Hi
Has anyone got experience of type and size of sails (including sail material and sail shape) that would give a moderate upgrade in speed in coastal sailing up to 30 knots of wind.
If anyone has a recommended supplier, that would be of use too.
Thanks

 

Frank,

Attached is a sail I got made up 4 years ago which works wonders in under 15 knots (90 degrees plus off the wind).

Despite the name, it is not on a furler but on a snuffer as I don¡¯t have a bowsprit.

Cheers

Craig



On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 10:49, Frank via Groups.Io <primepositions=[email protected]> wrote:
You can talk to a sailmaker, he would need to know the measurements of your current sails and whether you are cruising or racing, he would then work from there. The way the sails are cut determines their shape. The type of material determines the price you will pay. I live in Australia so I use Rolly Tasker Sails I have used Quantum Sails, they make good cruising sails though they are expensive, Rollys are just as good and cheaper. I recently found out from Rolly that most sailmakers get their sails computer cut in Taiwan. Hey you must have some good sailmakers in NZ.
Hope this helps.

Happy Days Sailing
Frank Aquilina
SV. ARCTURUS




On Sunday, June 24, 2018, 7:11 pm, Frank NZ <frank@...> wrote:

Hi
Has anyone got experience of type and size of sails (including sail material and sail shape) that would give a moderate upgrade in speed in coastal sailing up to 30 knots of wind.
If anyone has a recommended supplier, that would be of use too.
Thanks

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Craig Simmons
0773 980 3047?|?craig@...

about Oxfordshire Green Party

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We have a Screecher on a bow sprit. Because there is contradictory info about then they are often confused with code 0s. Genaker and a code 0 are very similar. Screechers are a multihull sail that is cut flatter then a code 0 and has heavier material. This allows for a higher sailing angle and higher apparent wind speed. We can hold ours at 45 degrees and 25kt Apparent angle and wind speed. We can also sail as deep as 140 with it. Between 60 and 120 apparent we use a non overlapping (the mast) jib or reef or genoa, depending on what's rigged, and "slot the jib". This reshapes the wind entering the main so it can be trimmed in tighter thus creating more lift. For slotting the bowsprit needs to be at least 60". The smaller jib (85%) can be reefed to storm sail size with good shape. Mack Sails in Stuart FL made all the sails and provided excellent advice. We now can 8.5 kts in 12kt wind and 10-12kts in 20-25kt apparent when reaching.?

Rick??s/v Mai Tai L37 TPI?

On Jun 24, 2018, at 14:01, Craig Simmons <greenoxfordbackup@...> wrote:

Frank,

Attached is a sail I got made up 4 years ago which works wonders in under 15 knots (90 degrees plus off the wind).

Despite the name, it is not on a furler but on a snuffer as I don¡¯t have a bowsprit.

Cheers

Craig
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 10:49, Frank via Groups.Io <primepositions=[email protected]> wrote:
You can talk to a sailmaker, he would need to know the measurements of your current sails and whether you are cruising or racing, he would then work from there. The way the sails are cut determines their shape. The type of material determines the price you will pay. I live in Australia so I use Rolly Tasker Sails I have used Quantum Sails, they make good cruising sails though they are expensive, Rollys are just as good and cheaper. I recently found out from Rolly that most sailmakers get their sails computer cut in Taiwan. Hey you must have some good sailmakers in NZ.
Hope this helps.

Happy Days Sailing
Frank Aquilina
SV. ARCTURUS




On Sunday, June 24, 2018, 7:11 pm, Frank NZ <frank@...> wrote:

Hi
Has anyone got experience of type and size of sails (including sail material and sail shape) that would give a moderate upgrade in speed in coastal sailing up to 30 knots of wind.
If anyone has a recommended supplier, that would be of use too.
Thanks

--
Craig Simmons
0773 980 3047?|?craig@...

about Oxfordshire Green Party

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Many thanks.
I have a Wingaker that I knew worked as a relative used one across the Atlantic on a Lagoon 380 with great success. Expensive, but worth it in light winds.
I am looking for a new set of "standard" sails at low cost.
 

Hi Frank
we recently had a new main done through Burton Sails in Tauranga for our 400. We found him Knowledgeable and helpful. He go us some extra roach in the sail which seems better, still testing at the moment. He was $1000nz dearer than ordering the original from France but he fitted and we had the extra area.
 

Hi
How much was the sail delivered to you?
Thanks
 

Hi Frank
from memory it was $10400 including GST and the incidence sail from France was $9500 assuming we would end up paying GST on the way in. We bought a Genoa from them for our 380 while we were in New Caledonia and it fitted perfectly.?
 

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There is a lot that affects the price of a sail. Main thing is the quality of the dacron. The more dense the weave is, the longer the sail will last. Cheap Dacron with a less dense weave has more rain in it to make it stiff. When you flog your sails the resin breaks down. Try getting a quote from Mack Sails. They use high quality dacron and their prices are very reasonable. Less then what I've seen on this thread!?

Rick??s/v Mai Tai L37 TPI?

On Jun 27, 2018, at 00:31, Frank NZ <frank@...> wrote:

Wow! Very much out of my price range. As it is a 380, there must be thousands of sails out there made by dozens of sail lofts (mostly in the far east I am told)

Brandon Wieschhaus
 

Frank:

We went through the sail replacement process last summer, and decided to go with Far East Sailmakers. I also thought they must be a "standard" size, on a shelf somewhere, with no luck. We were hard-over on getting black sails, and none of our local guys were able to provide. The process was relatively straight forward, you just have to take your own measurements and fill out all of your options. We decided on a new 130% Genoa, and a new main, with three reefs, all off-shore fabric, and got away for around $4500,?give or take. If I had to do it over again, I may consider a square-top main.

Brandon
MESSING ABOUT
L380 #006


On Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 22:31 Frank NZ <frank@...> wrote:
Wow! Very much out of my price range. As it is a 380, there must be thousands of sails out there made by dozens of sail lofts (mostly in the far east I am told)

 
Edited

Got a quote from Mack Sails . FIVE times the price I have been quoted from a reputable far east sail loft...

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