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I am considering a 420 lagoon that is in the states, but has 220v power. Is this a problem to use here in the states if I do not go to other areas that have 220v. Can it be converted or is there a reasonable way to convert the power system to US?

I have a 450S in 220v in the US. It is totally doable to have 220v here. ?But you do have to pay a little more attention. ?

Things we have learned. ?Have appliances that are 220v on board to use and for guests. ?This includes toaster, microwave, blender, hair dryers, etc. ?Our boat also has the round Euro plugs, so this was a little harder, but Amazon and the internet solved all of this. ?

We lived aboard for 2 years. ?The one area that was a bit of a hurdle was running the A/C. ?Our dock was 208v and we were end tie, so was typically 203v-204v by the time it got to us. ?We would occasionally get low voltage errors on the main salon A/C. ?

Someone will also start talking about 50hz/60hz and motor speeds, etc. ?It will likely be accurate, but in the two years we lived aboard we never had issues.

We also have a washer/dryer that will only work on 220v/50hz. ?So we would run the generator for that, if we couldn't use the one in the marina. ?

Finally, we keep a couple plug in inverters for things that were 110v only. ?Again, Amazon and both are up to 500v with a 220v pass through.

For the lower price we were able to get a 220v in the US (picked up in St. Marteen) we would absolutely do it again. ?And I see no reason to rewire anything. ?

Shoot me an email if you have any specific questions.

Stuart
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Stuart
S/V Rum Away
2017 Lagoon 450S #33

Yes, wiring wise can be used straight away on a 240 dock, and conversion to 110/240 is fairly straight forward.

Major consideration is 220v European equipment operation in states. Many devices are 50/60 hz, but anything with a motor in it, specifically water pumps, that are 50hz only, will give you fits. Also compressors, like 50hz ice makers, will melt down. If fridges use builtin 12vdc inverter, no worries there. A/C... could be issue.

Most pumps can be changed out, and frankly, between Costco and Amazon, changing the whole appliance here in the states isn’t terribly expensive.

Otherwise, rewiring outlets to 110 will work, and panel can be rewired as well. I reused all my Legrand breaker panel, plus i kept a select number of 220 Shucko plugs cross connecting to appliance circuits, and added 110 at same locations using the existing wiring. Took me awhile, but i figured out i had ‘Vimar’ brand outlets and plates. Found a place to order same so all would match. Made beautiful install. Amps just happened to work out right for me per breaker, but that’s a consideration you must make for yourself.

What battery chargers do you have? Do you have a galvanic isolator or isolation transformer installed?

Interestingly enough, a deficiency of typical US dock actually works to your advantage. Most guys aren’t aware, but our 240 docks often are wired ‘240’ off a single three phase transformer leg, which ?gives you 208, and after voltage drops can be closer to 200v. Which isn’t good normally, but works out to be 20% lower voltage. 60hz is 20% ‘faster’ than 50hz.

This by no means is a permanent solution, but numbers are numbers, and this oddity occasionally allows a 50hz motor to run ‘ok’ off a US dock. A lot of detail in the ‘ok’.


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? ? Jim Oates
? ? Reliant
? ? Lagoon 500
? ? Hull #133
? ? Marina Del Rey

Stuart, do you have a dishwasher or washer/dryer from Europe? If so, eventually you’ll hit docks where they’ll not drain. Run too fast and cavitate. The 208 thing makes them sometimes work, but it’s usually a crap shoot.
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? ? Jim Oates
? ? Reliant
? ? Lagoon 500
? ? Hull #133
? ? Marina Del Rey

James,

As noted in my original post, we do have a washer/dryer. ?But only run it on the GenSet due to the 50/60hz issue. ?That is really the only thing that I would consider a "hassle" of having the 220v in the US. ?But if we are tied up, we use the local "fluff and fold" service. ?If we are on a hook somewhere we would use the genset anyway. ?

For me the little bit of work around was well worth not having to rewire everything. ?We were up and running happily the first weekend on the boat. ?But we did smoke a few guest's hair straighteners and driers when they didn't pay attention to the pre-trip briefing about what was allowed and what to leave at home. ?;-). First time it happened I was asked "why did blue smoke just come out of my hair drier?". ?My reply was "Because you didn't listen to the Captain."
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Stuart
S/V Rum Away
2017 Lagoon 450S #33

They never do, do they?

My appliances are likely older than yours, but if you happen to have a Miele wt2780, i have the part no for the 60hz drain pump. They are easy to change.

Incidentally, for anyone looking for a 60hz pump on a Miele dishwasher, i was told there was no 60hz pump for my model. So one day i took it apart thinking I’d try reducing impeller blade size. When i dissembled it, the motor/impeller section looked exactly the same as on the washer/dryer.(housings are very different, so from outside couldn’t tell) You can guess what I did next.

I ordered a second washer/dryer part number, and used same on both. Working great for about two years now.

I also made a png transparency from the English operating manual for the front panel.(None of my guests speak French) Scaled it to front panel size, and had label shop print. After stripping and cleaning silk screen off front panel, i peeled and stuck.

Results are attached in case anyone would like the file.
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? ? Jim Oates
? ? Reliant
? ? Lagoon 500
? ? Hull #133
? ? Marina Del Rey