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2017 lagoon reefing system

 

Has anyone out there resolved the reefing line dragissues when dropping your main. ?Is there a better method than just hauling them in as another slowly lowers the main.
not doing this leaves a mess of line hanging out the back of the sail bag. ?Once like this it is even harder to real in and is not healthy for the systems and sail.
PaulinOz
 

The only time I pull in the reefing lines is if I am putting a reef in. Just tuck the overhang at the back into the sail bag when zipping it up. Also swapped out 14mm 1st and 2nd reef line for 12mm Dyneema runs a lot easier through the blocks and pulleys.

-- Paul Rogers . Lagoon 450F #233 2013 East Coast of Oz
 

As PaulinOz said!
DO not haul in the reefing lines, just arrange them as neatky as feasible inside the lazy pack after mainsail is down.
Otherwise, you will also have difficulties railing the mainsail at next deployment - you will need to drag all reefing lines out during the operation.
Un-necessary effort.

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Meir Riba
4 Mishael Street, Holon 5883815
Israel
+972-54-4277870
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Paul, If he has the same problem that I do, which is after dropping the main, large loops of reefing line hang down aft of the bimini and swing about. My worry is not that it is bad for the sail or the lines, but it is actually a real danger to anyone sitting there. Potentially a loop could get around you, very low chance, but the lines do whip back and forth and would be unpleasant to be hit by them. So if we drop the sails and have to motor back into the harbor after a daysail, the last 30 minutes are an issue. Just tossing the lines up seems not to work, they always fall back down. You need to go up and put them in the sail bag.


Maybe not a problem in the 450.
 

We pull the lines in every time on our 2016 Lagoon 52, Summer Kai. It takes us about 3-4 minutes to get the main down as we have to bring the halyard down some and the pull the reefing lines. It¡¯s not that bad. I like 12 mm Dynemma idea for the first 2 reeeding lines.?
 

Hi Paul
how did you get the new reefing lines through the boom? Do the lines in the boom simply run from front to back, or is there still a redirection in the boom (like the the Selden Auto-Reef-system)? Why not a 10mm Dyneema?
PaulinOz
 

Hi Paul how did you get the new reefing lines through the boom?

I stitch the end of the new line to the end of the old line with some whipping twine, then wrap a bit of electrical tape around to make it run smooth, then pull new line in with old line same as you would changed out a halyard.

Paul Rogers . Lagoon 450F #233 2013 East Coast of Oz
 

Yo need to collect the loops and stove away INSIDE the lazy pack

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Meir Riba
4 Mishael Street, Holon 5883815
Israel
+972-54-4277870
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On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 05:46 AM, Scott Jay wrote:

Just tossing the lines up seems not to work, they always fall back down. You need to go up and put them in the sail bag.

?Good reason to get a small boat.? No issue getting up there on a 380.
We always lower the boom so it rests on the hardtop bimini. No swinging boom,? no swinging lines.?
 

we have a preventer line from the end of the boom to a block on the toe rail then up to a winch. When the main comes down the preventer is put on the winch, tightened up and the boom doesn't swing. In a stiff breeze the hanging reefing lines do have a tendency to blow backwards and can wrap around, snag, the end of the boom. Have to be careful of that for the next time you raise the main. When the main is down for any significant amount of time i throw the slack up into the stack pak.
Joe
Sea OF Love
L440 BVI

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Subject: Re: [lagooncatowners] 2017 lagoon reefing system
From: "rb" <shopping@...>
Date: Tue, August 28, 2018 3:37 am
To: [email protected]

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 05:46 AM, Scott Jay wrote:
Just tossing the lines up seems not to work, they always fall back down. You need to go up and put them in the sail bag.
?Good reason to get a small boat.? No issue getting up there on a 380.
We always lower the boom so it rests on the hardtop bimini. No swinging boom,? no swinging lines.?

Bruce Wacker
 

I was pulling in all the reef lines, and even went to Harken blocks for most of the friction points. What was pointed out to me was the wear and tear on the leach of the sail from all the pulling of the reef lines over it. So I just climb up and stow them after dropping the main. For intermediate reefs I snug up the unused ones to keep the loose lines from slapping around. It is interesting that on my L400 there's a placard against getting on the upper deck. What a joke!
 

On the new 42 the dingy lift system puts the dingy up close to the coach roof so the reefing lines end up down in the dingy flailing about and becoming a tangled mess as we come in from sea to an inlet.?
The 42 also has a third reef line which is quite long.
thought about dyamene line put it would be pricy for our rig.
Sunny Skye Lagoon 42 hull 142
 

My Lagoon 42 is my first sailboat. My captain took the bottom and top reefing lines out. Only lest the middle in. Later we can add them back. This eliminates a lot of those loose lines. If you are at the middle reef and need to shorten sail more. Most likely you are taking the sail down.
Peter Tarantola
 

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No.. not really .. poor judgment?

Put them in, you'll not regret it when us need them.

Captain Mark Stearns BSME?

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