Re: Rosalie's china cabinet
Thanks for the update, Peter. So glad you and Stephanie are doing well.
Don’t need a china cabinet, but nice offer to the family.
Glad you're helping the economy with all those repairs and changes. Enjoy it when it’s done.
Elaine
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Hello all. Things are good and boring here in Lancaster for Stephanie and I. Health is good, no 'rona, and our income wasn't impacted. We also managed to stay married through 10 weeks of contractors all over our house during the quarantine. New roof, siding, spouting, kitchen and laundry. The next project is our dining room and we no longer have room for our china cabinet (nor do we have any fine china to display - we're anti knick knacks). It belonged to Rosalie, then Joy , then me. I wanted to offer it to any family first before I give it to a Medigan. So Fay, Laura, nieces, nephews... Anyone?
Cheers,?
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Hello all. Things are good and boring here in Lancaster for Stephanie and I. Health is good, no 'rona, and our income wasn't impacted. We also managed to stay married through 10 weeks of contractors all over our house during the quarantine. New roof, siding, spouting, kitchen and laundry. The next project is our dining room and we no longer have room for our china cabinet (nor do we have any fine china to display - we're anti knick knacks). It belonged to Rosalie, then Joy , then me. I wanted to offer it to any family first before I give it to a Medigan. So Fay, Laura, nieces, nephews... Anyone?
Cheers,?
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Re: For Elaine and Paul Andriole
Glad you joined in, Dorothy. I was going to call you and Sally for information, but Paul had already talked to Chookie. Mystery solved.
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On Aug 2, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Dorothy Mehl via < dhmehl@...> wrote:
I get busy for a while and come back to all of this interesting stuff on lafamiglia!! ?Once again, it is great to keep in touch with the past and present (and sometimes the future) of our family.
Dorothy
Thanks, Michael, for responding. Hope all’s well in Philadelphia.
Read the article. It always amazes me how far missionaries (Michele Ruggieri for one) ventured in the 1500s. He went by way of India and then onward to China. Ruggieri is a fine, old Italian name. Characters, some good and some not so good, with the surname Ruggieri appear in the Divine Comedy by Dante and the Decameron by Boccaccio.
Elaine
On Jul 29, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. < RUGG1@...> wrote:
I am also not interested in any of the remaining plots.? ? On a different note I received this link ?from an IT person at Temple: ? ? Cheers, Jen Ford?
Mike Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. 196 Holstein Road PA Route #320, Gulph Mills King of Prussia, PA 19406 (610) 564-3926 (Cellular) ? ? Hey, Steve, it was always Lonie’s and my intent that the remaining lots should be for the family. I’ve recently contacted St. Pat’s and had discussions with Marie Elliott, business manager. There are three available lots…one directly in front of the large Ruggieri stone and two on the backside. The location of Mark’s remains was decided by Andrea and Adam. As the last of Archie Ruggieri’s siblings, I am in charge of those remaining plots. My father paid a total of $120 for the twelve (six in 1925 and six in 1927) and knowing his reputation for caring for family and family in need, I will honor that. I have no intention of charging any family member. ?And, maybe St. Pat’s would have something to say about that even if I wanted to. In my conversations with Marie Elliott, I also asked about the four corner markers with the lovely R engraved thereon. They set the boundaries of the 12 plots. When I last visited the graves, I saw at least one was missing and asked Marie to see if they had sunk into the ground, were broken, or even vandalized. Nice result. They had sunk and are now being raised. I think the Ruggieri stone is one of the prettiest in the cemetery (no bias there) and the lettering (typeface) is beautifully carved. If any of the family who live in or visit ?Kennett Square, I suggest a short run to the cemetery. You can usually park right in front of the Ruggieri plot. I’ve done it, sometimes with Amy and Jane, and always glad I did. Also look nearby and notice familiar plots - Pannell, Andriole, Leo, etc. If you see anything amiss, please let me know.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via ??< sjrugged@...> wrote: ? Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.? 1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.?
Steve Ruggieri
“...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” ? On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote: ?
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. ? Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail. I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find ?
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I get busy for a while and come back to all of this interesting stuff on lafamiglia!! ?Once again, it is great to keep in touch with the past and present (and sometimes the future) of our family.
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Thanks, Michael, for responding. Hope all’s well in Philadelphia.
Read the article. It always amazes me how far missionaries (Michele Ruggieri for one) ventured in the 1500s. He went by way of India and then onward to China. Ruggieri is a fine, old Italian name. Characters, some good and some not so good, with the surname Ruggieri appear in the Divine Comedy by Dante and the Decameron by Boccaccio.
Elaine
On Jul 29, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. < RUGG1@...> wrote:
I am also not interested in any of the remaining plots.? ? On a different note I received this link ?from an IT person at Temple: ? ? Cheers, Jen Ford?
Mike Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. 196 Holstein Road PA Route #320, Gulph Mills King of Prussia, PA 19406 (610) 564-3926 (Cellular) ? ? Hey, Steve, it was always Lonie’s and my intent that the remaining lots should be for the family. I’ve recently contacted St. Pat’s and had discussions with Marie Elliott, business manager. There are three available lots…one directly in front of the large Ruggieri stone and two on the backside. The location of Mark’s remains was decided by Andrea and Adam. As the last of Archie Ruggieri’s siblings, I am in charge of those remaining plots. My father paid a total of $120 for the twelve (six in 1925 and six in 1927) and knowing his reputation for caring for family and family in need, I will honor that. I have no intention of charging any family member. ?And, maybe St. Pat’s would have something to say about that even if I wanted to. In my conversations with Marie Elliott, I also asked about the four corner markers with the lovely R engraved thereon. They set the boundaries of the 12 plots. When I last visited the graves, I saw at least one was missing and asked Marie to see if they had sunk into the ground, were broken, or even vandalized. Nice result. They had sunk and are now being raised. I think the Ruggieri stone is one of the prettiest in the cemetery (no bias there) and the lettering (typeface) is beautifully carved. If any of the family who live in or visit ?Kennett Square, I suggest a short run to the cemetery. You can usually park right in front of the Ruggieri plot. I’ve done it, sometimes with Amy and Jane, and always glad I did. Also look nearby and notice familiar plots - Pannell, Andriole, Leo, etc. If you see anything amiss, please let me know.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via ??< sjrugged@...> wrote: ? Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.? 1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.?
Steve Ruggieri
“...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” ? On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote: ?
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. ? Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail. I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find ?
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Thanks, Michael, for responding. Hope all’s well in Philadelphia.
Read the article. It always amazes me how far missionaries (Michele Ruggieri for one) ventured in the 1500s. He went by way of India and then onward to China. Ruggieri is a fine, old Italian name. Characters, some good and some not so good, with the surname Ruggieri appear in the Divine Comedy by Dante and the Decameron by Boccaccio.
Elaine
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. < RUGG1@...> wrote:
I am also not interested in any of the remaining plots.? ? On a different note I received this link ?from an IT person at Temple: ? ? Cheers, Jen Ford?
Mike Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr. 196 Holstein Road PA Route #320, Gulph Mills King of Prussia, PA 19406 (610) 564-3926 (Cellular) ? ? Hey, Steve, it was always Lonie’s and my intent that the remaining lots should be for the family. I’ve recently contacted St. Pat’s and had discussions with Marie Elliott, business manager. There are three available lots…one directly in front of the large Ruggieri stone and two on the backside. The location of Mark’s remains was decided by Andrea and Adam. As the last of Archie Ruggieri’s siblings, I am in charge of those remaining plots. My father paid a total of $120 for the twelve (six in 1925 and six in 1927) and knowing his reputation for caring for family and family in need, I will honor that. I have no intention of charging any family member. ?And, maybe St. Pat’s would have something to say about that even if I wanted to. In my conversations with Marie Elliott, I also asked about the four corner markers with the lovely R engraved thereon. They set the boundaries of the 12 plots. When I last visited the graves, I saw at least one was missing and asked Marie to see if they had sunk into the ground, were broken, or even vandalized. Nice result. They had sunk and are now being raised. I think the Ruggieri stone is one of the prettiest in the cemetery (no bias there) and the lettering (typeface) is beautifully carved. If any of the family who live in or visit ?Kennett Square, I suggest a short run to the cemetery. You can usually park right in front of the Ruggieri plot. I’ve done it, sometimes with Amy and Jane, and always glad I did. Also look nearby and notice familiar plots - Pannell, Andriole, Leo, etc. If you see anything amiss, please let me know.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via ??< sjrugged@...> wrote: ? Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.? 1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.?
Steve Ruggieri
“...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” ? On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote: ?
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. ? Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail. I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find ?
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I am also not interested in any of the remaining plots.?
?
On a different note I received this link ?from an IT person at Temple:
?
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Cheers,
Jen Ford?
Mike
Michael R. Ruggieri, Sr.
196 Holstein Road
PA Route #320, Gulph Mills
King of Prussia, PA 19406
Rugg101@...
(610) 564-3926 (Cellular)
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Elaine Ruggieri
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:28 AM
To: lafamigliaruggieri <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [lafamigliaruggieri] For Elaine and Paul Andriole
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Hey, Steve, it was always Lonie’s and my intent that the remaining lots should be for the family. I’ve recently contacted St. Pat’s and had discussions with Marie Elliott, business manager. There are three available lots…one directly in
front of the large Ruggieri stone and two on the backside. The location of Mark’s remains was decided by Andrea and Adam.
As the last of Archie Ruggieri’s siblings, I am in charge of those remaining plots. My father paid a total of $120 for the twelve (six in 1925 and six in 1927) and knowing his reputation for caring for family and family in need, I will
honor that. I have no intention of charging any family member. ?And, maybe St. Pat’s would have something to say about that even if I wanted to.
In my conversations with Marie Elliott, I also asked about the four corner markers with the lovely R engraved thereon. They set the boundaries of the 12 plots. When I last visited the graves, I saw at least one was missing and asked Marie
to see if they had sunk into the ground, were broken, or even vandalized. Nice result. They had sunk and are now being raised. I think the Ruggieri stone is one of the prettiest in the cemetery (no bias there) and the lettering (typeface) is beautifully carved.
If any of the family who live in or visit ?Kennett Square, I suggest a short run to the cemetery. You can usually park right in front of the Ruggieri plot. I’ve done it, sometimes with Amy and Jane, and always glad I did. Also look nearby
and notice familiar plots - Pannell, Andriole, Leo, etc. If you see anything amiss, please let me know.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via <sjrugged@...> wrote:
?
Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.?
1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there
and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized
and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just
ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.?
2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.?
Steve Ruggieri
“...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...”
?
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote:
I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the
cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent.
On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier <sastier@...> wrote:
?
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it.
?
Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
?
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Hey, Steve, it was always Lonie’s and my intent that the remaining lots should be for the family. I’ve recently contacted St. Pat’s and had discussions with Marie Elliott, business manager. There are three available lots…one directly in front of the large Ruggieri stone and two on the backside. The location of Mark’s remains was decided by Andrea and Adam.
As the last of Archie Ruggieri’s siblings, I am in charge of those remaining plots. My father paid a total of $120 for the twelve (six in 1925 and six in 1927) and knowing his reputation for caring for family and family in need, I will honor that. I have no intention of charging any family member. ?And, maybe St. Pat’s would have something to say about that even if I wanted to.
In my conversations with Marie Elliott, I also asked about the four corner markers with the lovely R engraved thereon. They set the boundaries of the 12 plots. When I last visited the graves, I saw at least one was missing and asked Marie to see if they had sunk into the ground, were broken, or even vandalized. Nice result. They had sunk and are now being raised. I think the Ruggieri stone is one of the prettiest in the cemetery (no bias there) and the lettering (typeface) is beautifully carved.
If any of the family who live in or visit ?Kennett Square, I suggest a short run to the cemetery. You can usually park right in front of the Ruggieri plot. I’ve done it, sometimes with Amy and Jane, and always glad I did. Also look nearby and notice familiar plots - Pannell, Andriole, Leo, etc. If you see anything amiss, please let me know.
Stay safe everyone.
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via < sjrugged@...> wrote:
Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.? 1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.? Steve Ruggieri414-630-2558 “...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” Bertrand Russell On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent. On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote:
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. I should have said: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
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The three plots will stay in the Ruggieri family, not ever be auctioned off. Elaine has the deeds as the last of Archie’s children. It will definitely be first-come, first-serve—but hey, no rush everybody. I’d consider taking one myself, but I know my soul can’t rest on Yankee soil. Kidding. Sort of.
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Steve Ruggieri via groups.io < sjrugged@...> wrote:
Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.?1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.? Steve Ruggieri414-630-2558 “...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” Bertrand Russell On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent. On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote:
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. I should have said: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
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Very interesting detective work. Thanks. I was paused in my reading of this thread of emails by?two things.? 1. Three plots? When I went through the St. Pats cemetery administration to get permission to have that bronze plaque installed for mom & dad?on the family stone I was told only Lonnie and or Elaine had rights to say who got plotted there and that there?were only two. I’m pretty sure Mark got one. So with Elaine admitting she has no desire to take a plot,?whether 1,?2 or 3,?who will decide who gets them? I’m with Elaine, no interest. But, that cemetery admin seemed to me to be very organized and potentially strict about passing on rights to those plots. I’m open to ideas on setting aside these plots for a family member in need. First come first serve, consensus at the time of need, auction off with proceeds go the?church, you tell me. All just ideas. But discussing this could be helpful for some unfortunate soul and much easier with documentation from this group as to fulfilling Archie’s purchase of these plots.? 2. Yea, I said there were two things. After all that above, I’ve forgotten that second one and or it’s late and wasn’t important anyway.? Steve Ruggieri414-630-2558 “...immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous...” Bertrand Russell
On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:13, Elaine Ruggieri <elaineruggieri@...> wrote: I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent. On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote:
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. I should have said: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
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I made the same mistake. Lonie accurately typed pages that recorded each sibling of my father with their spouses and children. She probably heard the oral history also about Vincent, but I never did. So when our grandmother walked to the cemetery every day she was visiting Melania and Vincent.
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote:
Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. I should have said: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
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Louie did mention it. ?I was not clear. ?What I wrote came from her family history. ?I just copied it. I should have said: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history. AND SHE DID:
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
After ?the call from Paul, I checked the history almost certain I would find
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Melanie lived 14 years. ?Baby Vincent probably only hours. ?I’m sure it must have been felt as a tragedy by Mary and Frank at the time. ?They were blessed with a healthy, handsome family soon after.?
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Or - where the name Vincent came from. ?
On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:29 PM, "Sally Stier" < sastier@...> wrote: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history.
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
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Certainly we now know some folks knew of the baby death event but doesn't appear that anyone knew of the baby's burial location until yesterday 7/27/20. ?Thanks Elaine-
On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:29 PM, "Sally Stier" < sastier@...> wrote: Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history.
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
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Apologies to my sister. I just looked in another version of her family data and there under Frank and Mary’s list of children (at the top) is : “Vincent Ruggieri 1930 - 1930”. ?
I called the Church and Marie Elliot, business manager, is going to add Ruggieri to his name.
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On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Sally Stier < sastier@...> wrote:
Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history.
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
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Sally, thanks for the details. Paul and I played detective. I was checking on the Ruggieri lots. The drawing I had from Lonie was confusing. I received from St. Pat’s a better drawing and for the first time saw that two names were in the same plot - Melania Ruggieri with her dates and Baby Vincent with only 1930. We thought it could be Mary as the possible mother and Paul remembered that young Frankie named one of his sons Vincent. Paul's call to Chookie gave parental information, but she was surprised to learn that Baby Vincent was buried in the same grave as Melania, the twin, who died in 1925. My father bought the first six cemetery plots in that year and another six in 1927. $10 a lot.
I’m calling St. Patrick’s whose only record was “Baby Vincent. 1930”. This way the baby will have a surname and his parents recorded.?
So, you knew. I never heard about anything about Vincent. You’d think it would come up when we talked about Melania which whose sad story was occasionally told. Now we have a another one. I rechecked Lonie’s “Ruggieri Chronicles” and no mention. Do you think the family just stopped talking about it?
For the record, there are three empty plots in the Ruggieri section. I won’t be taking one.
Hope you and the rest of your family are healthy and staying safe.
Elaine
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Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history.
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
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For Elaine and Paul Andriole
Leave it to Lonie. ?She was devoted to family and detail.
I thought she would have mentioned this in her family history.
Frank T. Ruggieri-Mary DeArchangelo Ruggieri ?06/17/29
o1/11/06 -10/06/70 ? ? ? ? ?11/17/09 ? ? ? ? ??
? ? ? ? ? ? Vincent Ruggieri- 1930-1930
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You weren’t as my memory recalls. I don’t even think you had woken up yet.?
I do remember getting caught sneaking out of the 2nd floor bedroom window above the kitchen. Obviously I hadn’t thought it out cuz everyone sitting in the kitchen heard someone walking on the roof. Lol
My cat burglar career never took off like I had planned.?
Love Randy
Jacque, I doubt that you were bratty or bossy, and even if you were, look how you turned out - caring and kind.?
Stay healthy.? Elaine On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:53 PM, jacque aby < mjaby@...> wrote:
I remember your family living with us. And it was kindergarten or first grade so from that view. I don’t remember or haven’t heard this story but I was young then and not so young now. I was probably a pain fighting over the tv and game rules. Something about Batman and honey west?? I know I was bratty and bossy. ? On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Steve Ruggieri via <sjrugged@...> wrote:
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Tough intro huh?
First, Happy Easter everyone.?
Ok, it was 1966 I think, we had a fire at 126 Ridge and were happily invited to move in with Aunt Millie for the duration of the renovation. I was in 6th grade at Kennett?Elementary next to the jr-sr high school. Yea, we had to learn how to navigate a bus from Toughkenamon??to the high school drop off. After walking it was challenging. Randy was in second grade.?
Easter at Millie’s, Sally and Jacque we’re also living there. Jacque, fill in if you were not about kindergarten age, memory is spotty. Anyway, Easter morning my brother and I came down to see a huge Easter basket(Jacque’s).?It was monstrous. In our awestruck speechlessness we got busted by our mom. She was so embarrassed, as guests,??by our reaction to Jacque’s basket that mom?immediately ordered Randy and I to take our wonderful Easter goodies to the migrant workers living on the mushroom farm campus. All we succeeded in doing for them was rudely awaking these young men, living in barracks far from their loved ones on Easter, hoping to get some well deserved extra sleep. After waking them coming out their door seeing two quaking kids wanting to honor mom’s orders to share, we dropped our baskets and ran. I’ve no idea what they thought. This episode in our young lives may or may not explain certain relationships I and possibly Randy have towards family, religion, immigrants and who I see myself today. Sally, Jacque I’m not sure if you were even aware of this episode in our lives, but rest assured, it was just one day. We were kids. We accepted, adapted and knew family and love are all important. Still, at that moment when those young men came busting out of their dorm yelling in?Spanish was a pants wetting moment.? Steve Ruggieri 414-630-2558
The grumpier you are, the more assholes you meet. ? ? ? ? ?Banksy
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Jacque, I doubt that you were bratty or bossy, and even if you were, look how you turned out - caring and kind.?
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On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:53 PM, jacque aby < mjaby@...> wrote:
I remember your family living with us. And it was kindergarten or first grade so from that view. I don’t remember or haven’t heard this story but I was young then and not so young now. I was probably a pain fighting over the tv and game rules. Something about Batman and honey west? ?I know I was bratty and bossy. ? On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Steve Ruggieri via <sjrugged@...> wrote:
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Tough intro huh?
First, Happy Easter everyone.?
Ok, it was 1966 I think, we had a fire at 126 Ridge and were happily invited to move in with Aunt Millie for the duration of the renovation. I was in 6th grade at Kennett?Elementary next to the jr-sr high school. Yea, we had to learn how to navigate a bus from Toughkenamon??to the high school drop off. After walking it was challenging. Randy was in second grade.?
Easter at Millie’s, Sally and Jacque we’re also living there. Jacque, fill in if you were not about kindergarten age, memory is spotty. Anyway, Easter morning my brother and I came down to see a huge Easter basket(Jacque’s).?It was monstrous. In our awestruck speechlessness we got busted by our mom. She was so embarrassed, as guests,??by our reaction to Jacque’s basket that mom?immediately ordered Randy and I to take our wonderful Easter goodies to the migrant workers living on the mushroom farm campus. All we succeeded in doing for them was rudely awaking these young men, living in barracks far from their loved ones on Easter, hoping to get some well deserved extra sleep. After waking them coming out their door seeing two quaking kids wanting to honor mom’s orders to share, we dropped our baskets and ran. I’ve no idea what they thought. This episode in our young lives may or may not explain certain relationships I and possibly Randy have towards family, religion, immigrants and who I see myself today. Sally, Jacque I’m not sure if you were even aware of this episode in our lives, but rest assured, it was just one day. We were kids. We accepted, adapted and knew family and love are all important. Still, at that moment when those young men came busting out of their dorm yelling in?Spanish was a pants wetting moment.? Steve Ruggieri 414-630-2558
The grumpier you are, the more assholes you meet. ? ? ? ? ?Banksy
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I remember your family living with us. And it was kindergarten or first grade so from that view. I don’t remember or haven’t heard this story but I was young then and not so young now. I was probably a pain fighting over the tv and game rules. Something about Batman and honey west? ?I know I was bratty and bossy. ?
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On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Steve Ruggieri via groups.io <sjrugged@...> wrote:
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Tough intro huh?
First, Happy Easter everyone.?
Ok, it was 1966 I think, we had a fire at 126 Ridge and were happily invited to move in with Aunt Millie for the duration of the renovation. I was in 6th grade at Kennett?Elementary next to the jr-sr high school. Yea, we had to learn how to navigate a bus from Toughkenamon??to the high school drop off. After walking it was challenging. Randy was in second grade.?
Easter at Millie’s, Sally and Jacque we’re also living there. Jacque, fill in if you were not about kindergarten age, memory is spotty. Anyway, Easter morning my brother and I came down to see a huge Easter basket(Jacque’s).?It was monstrous. In our awestruck speechlessness we got busted by our mom. She was so embarrassed, as guests,??by our reaction to Jacque’s basket that mom?immediately ordered Randy and I to take our wonderful Easter goodies to the migrant workers living on the mushroom farm campus. All we succeeded in doing for them was rudely awaking these young men, living in barracks far from their loved ones on Easter, hoping to get some well deserved extra sleep. After waking them coming out their door seeing two quaking kids wanting to honor mom’s orders to share, we dropped our baskets and ran. I’ve no idea what they thought. This episode in our young lives may or may not explain certain relationships I and possibly Randy have towards family, religion, immigrants and who I see myself today. Sally, Jacque I’m not sure if you were even aware of this episode in our lives, but rest assured, it was just one day. We were kids. We accepted, adapted and knew family and love are all important. Still, at that moment when those young men came busting out of their dorm yelling in?Spanish was a pants wetting moment.? Steve Ruggieri 414-630-2558
The grumpier you are, the more assholes you meet. ? ? ? ? ?Banksy
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