#23864

I have just installed Kicad 8 and was trying to use one of the demo projects to check out the new features. I thought this error message appeared when I was using the 3D Viewer, but I am not certain (it appeared on my second monitor that was showing the schematic). I dismissed the error and then it reappeared a short while later while I was doing something else (not using KiCad). Both the schematic and PCB windows display a banner saying the files are read-only. I captured the error message on its second appearance. It has not reappeared while I was preparing this message. Has anyone else seen this message or does anyone know what may be causing it?

Application: KiCad Schematic Editor x64 on x64

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Version: 8.0.0, release build

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Libraries:

wxWidgets 3.2.4

FreeType 2.12.1

HarfBuzz 8.3.0

FontConfig 2.14.2

libcurl/8.5.0-DEV Schannel zlib/1.3

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Platform: Windows 10 (build 19045), 64-bit edition, 64 bit, Little endian, wxMSW

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Build Info:

Date: Feb 23 2024 02:24:15

wxWidgets: 3.2.4 (wchar_t,wx containers)

Boost: 1.83.0

OCC: 7.7.1

Curl: 8.5.0-DEV

ngspice: 42

Compiler: Visual C++ 1936 without C++ ABI

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Build settings:

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#23865
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The same error message reappeared shortly after I posted my previous message. I now suspect that KiCad may be trying to autosave the project into the read-only Program Files directory. It shouldn't do this for a read-only project.

I can trigger the same message by manually trying to save the file.

#23866

There are no read-only projects but read-only directories.

Copy the project into a folder of your own and the problem should disappear.

Regards,

Pedro

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El vie., mar. 1, 2024 a 17:28, Dennis
<dennisc@...> escribió:

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The same error message reappeared shortly after I posted my previous message. I now suspect that KiCad may be trying to autosave the project into the read-only Program Files directory. It shouldn't do this for a read-only project.

I can trigger the same message by manually trying to save the file.

#23868

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:21 AM, Pedro Martín wrote:

There are no read-only projects but read-only directories.

Yes, I know that, and so does KiCad. It is displaying a banner on each window saying the "schematic is read only" and the "PCB is read only", yet it is still trying to autosave the files to those read only directories.?

The other issue is that this error occurs when viewing the demo projects that are installed by KiCad for use as demos by new users. These projects are opened from the File->Open Demo Project... menu and then this error message starts popping up every now and then while the user is trying to test drive KiCad. It's not a good introduction.

KiCad could offer to copy the demo project to another location when a demo is opened, but I suspect that would just seem like a barrier to a new user that just want to open a project an take a look.

#23869

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In view of the restrictions Windows places on access to Program Files, shouldn't the demonstration files be in, for example, Documents/KiCad demos?

On 2024-03-01 17:54, Dennis wrote:

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:21 AM, Pedro Martín wrote:

There are no read-only projects but read-only directories.
Yes, I know that, and so does KiCad. It is displaying a banner on each window saying the "schematic is read only" and the "PCB is read only", yet it is still trying to autosave the files to those read only directories.?

The other issue is that this error occurs when viewing the demo projects that are installed by KiCad for use as demos by new users. These projects are opened from the File->Open Demo Project... menu and then this error message starts popping up every now and then while the user is trying to test drive KiCad. It's not a good introduction.

KiCad could offer to copy the demo project to another location when a demo is opened, but I suspect that would just seem like a barrier to a new user that just want to open a project an take a look.

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#23870

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I believe the intent is to preserve the demo files from being broken by users after installation. If you intend to modify the demos, “Save As…” and then go crazy.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Woodgate via groups.io
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [kicad-users] KiCad 8 Error while using demo project

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In view of the restrictions Windows places on access to Program Files, shouldn't the demonstration files be in, for example, Documents/KiCad demos?

On 2024-03-01 17:54, Dennis wrote:

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:21 AM, Pedro Martín wrote:

There are no read-only projects but read-only directories.

Yes, I know that, and so does KiCad. It is displaying a banner on each window saying the "schematic is read only" and the "PCB is read only", yet it is still trying to autosave the files to those read only directories.?

The other issue is that this error occurs when viewing the demo projects that are installed by KiCad for use as demos by new users. These projects are opened from the File->Open Demo Project... menu and then this error message starts popping up every now and then while the user is trying to test drive KiCad. It's not a good introduction.

KiCad could offer to copy the demo project to another location when a demo is opened, but I suspect that would just seem like a barrier to a new user that just want to open a project an take a look.

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Best wishes
John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
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#23872

On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 12:30 PM, Stewart Innes wrote:

I believe the intent is to preserve the demo files from being broken by users after installation.

I believe this is the goal. I think it would be better if KiCad disabled the auto-save function for read-only files, and added a note to that effect in the message banner displayed for those files. Perhaps "Schematic is read only. Auto-save disabled."?

Many times I use the demo projects as a quick way to check out a feature and I have no intention of saving the changes I am making.?