Re: Mounting hole problem
Thank you. I will try that.
On 2024-08-29 00:46, alessandro longo
wrote:
Ho John,
the problem is that you are doing it wrong. Mounting holes are
components, not pads. So you need to click on the component
properties, and uncheck the "visible" flag on the "reference"
field. I hope this helps.
The mounting holes are not in the
schematic, any more than the mounting holes for the
potentiometer are. Those mounting holes have pads, of
course and are called MH1 and MH2. But I see no way of
changing the 'REF**' text for the mounting holes in the
PCB. In the Pad Properties pane, the Pad Type is NPTH
mechanical and the Pad number field is greyed out.
There are footprints for Mounting
holes, but no symbols. That seems to indicate that
symbols are not required.
On 2024-08-28 22:42, Tony Casey wrote:
It sounds like they have not been
annotated.
Do the mounting holes exist in your schematic, or did you
just try to add them onto the PCB? If the latter, that's
why the reference hasn't been updated: it's because they
are not in the netlist. If you double-click on the
mounting hole (in pcb), you will get the footprint
properties dialogue; just manually change REF** to
something like MP1, MP2, MP3, etc. "Update from schematic"
will always tell you they aren't used because they aren't
in the schematic. I have a personal "Mounting_Point"
library with schematic symbols for holes and mounting
points, with and without grounding connections. That's
your issue - there is no mounting point or hole schematic
symbol that I can see in the standard schematic symbol
libraries.
--
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Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as
a property.
I'm in trouble again. I
added four mounting holes to my board and the
come with? text 'REF**'. Update PCB describes
them as 'unused' and proposes to delete them,
which is obviously wrong. I can't find a way
to change REF** to something else. Please
advise.
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John Woodgate
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Re: Mounting hole problem
I have mounting hole symbol in Mechanical library.
Kuup?eval neljap?ev, 29. august 2024, kell 01:43:26 GMT +3 kirjutas John Woodgate <jmw@...> j?rgmist:
The mounting holes are not in the schematic,
any more than the mounting holes for the potentiometer are.
Those mounting holes have pads, of course and are called MH1 and
MH2. But I see no way of changing the 'REF**' text for the
mounting holes in the PCB. In the Pad Properties pane, the Pad
Type is NPTH mechanical and the Pad number field is greyed out.
There are footprints for Mounting holes, but
no symbols. That seems to indicate that symbols are not
required.
On 2024-08-28 22:42, Tony Casey wrote:
It sounds like they have not been annotated.
Do the mounting holes exist in your schematic, or did you just try
to add them onto the PCB? If the latter, that's why the reference
hasn't been updated: it's because they are not in the netlist. If
you double-click on the mounting hole (in pcb), you will get the
footprint properties dialogue; just manually change REF** to
something like MP1, MP2, MP3, etc. "Update from schematic" will
always tell you they aren't used because they aren't in the
schematic. I have a personal "Mounting_Point" library with
schematic symbols for holes and mounting points, with and without
grounding connections. That's your issue - there is no mounting
point or hole schematic symbol that I can see in the standard
schematic symbol libraries.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
--
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Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
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Re: Mounting hole problem
Ho John,
the problem is that you are doing it wrong. Mounting holes are components, not pads. So you need to click on the component properties, and uncheck the "visible" flag on the "reference" field. I hope this helps.
The mounting holes are not in the schematic,
any more than the mounting holes for the potentiometer are.
Those mounting holes have pads, of course and are called MH1 and
MH2. But I see no way of changing the 'REF**' text for the
mounting holes in the PCB. In the Pad Properties pane, the Pad
Type is NPTH mechanical and the Pad number field is greyed out.
There are footprints for Mounting holes, but
no symbols. That seems to indicate that symbols are not
required.
On 2024-08-28 22:42, Tony Casey wrote:
It sounds like they have not been annotated.
Do the mounting holes exist in your schematic, or did you just try
to add them onto the PCB? If the latter, that's why the reference
hasn't been updated: it's because they are not in the netlist. If
you double-click on the mounting hole (in pcb), you will get the
footprint properties dialogue; just manually change REF** to
something like MP1, MP2, MP3, etc. "Update from schematic" will
always tell you they aren't used because they aren't in the
schematic. I have a personal "Mounting_Point" library with
schematic symbols for holes and mounting points, with and without
grounding connections. That's your issue - there is no mounting
point or hole schematic symbol that I can see in the standard
schematic symbol libraries.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
|
Re: Mounting hole problem
The mounting holes are not in the schematic,
any more than the mounting holes for the potentiometer are.
Those mounting holes have pads, of course and are called MH1 and
MH2. But I see no way of changing the 'REF**' text for the
mounting holes in the PCB. In the Pad Properties pane, the Pad
Type is NPTH mechanical and the Pad number field is greyed out.
There are footprints for Mounting holes, but
no symbols. That seems to indicate that symbols are not
required.
On 2024-08-28 22:42, Tony Casey wrote:
It sounds like they have not been annotated.
Do the mounting holes exist in your schematic, or did you just try
to add them onto the PCB? If the latter, that's why the reference
hasn't been updated: it's because they are not in the netlist. If
you double-click on the mounting hole (in pcb), you will get the
footprint properties dialogue; just manually change REF** to
something like MP1, MP2, MP3, etc. "Update from schematic" will
always tell you they aren't used because they aren't in the
schematic. I have a personal "Mounting_Point" library with
schematic symbols for holes and mounting points, with and without
grounding connections. That's your issue - there is no mounting
point or hole schematic symbol that I can see in the standard
schematic symbol libraries.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
|
Re: Mounting hole problem
It sounds like they have not been annotated.
Do the mounting holes exist in your schematic, or did you just try
to add them onto the PCB? If the latter, that's why the reference
hasn't been updated: it's because they are not in the netlist. If
you double-click on the mounting hole (in pcb), you will get the
footprint properties dialogue; just manually change REF** to
something like MP1, MP2, MP3, etc. "Update from schematic" will
always tell you they aren't used because they aren't in the
schematic. I have a personal "Mounting_Point" library with schematic
symbols for holes and mounting points, with and without grounding
connections. That's your issue - there is no mounting point or hole
schematic symbol that I can see in the standard schematic symbol
libraries.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
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Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
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Re: Mounting hole problem
There is now a Mounting Hole Library. I don't
think there was one in version 6.
On 2024-08-28 22:23, Tony Casey wrote:
But, presumably John does want them in his schematic. I always
include mounting holes, and have a bunch of footprints for
different types.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
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Re: Mounting hole problem
But, presumably John does want them in his schematic. I always
include mounting holes, and have a bunch of footprints for different
types.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 20:44, brian wrote:
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Show quoted text
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
|
Re: Mounting hole problem
Thank you. I will? try that.
On 2024-08-28 20:56, Meelis Reimets via
groups.io wrote:
I put all mounting holes also to schematic and assign appropriate
mounting hole footprint to them.
On K, aug 28, 2024 at 21:45, brian
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a property.
I'm in trouble again. I added
four mounting holes to my board and the come
with? text 'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as
'unused' and proposes to delete them, which is
obviously wrong. I can't find a way to change
REF** to something else. Please advise.
--
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Best Wishes
John Woodgate
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Re: Mounting hole problem
Thanks, Brian. I can select, but I see no way
to mark them 'not in schematic'. I tried short-cut E, but I
suppose I should use another shortcut, but which?
On 2024-08-28 19:44, brian wrote:
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a
property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four
mounting holes to my board and the come with? text
'REF**'. Update PCB describes them as 'unused' and
proposes to delete them, which is obviously wrong. I
can't find a way to change REF** to something else.
Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
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Re: Mounting hole problem
I put all mounting holes also to schematic and assign appropriate mounting hole footprint to them.
On K, aug 28, 2024 at 21:45, brian <brian@...> wrote: Select them and Mark not in schematic as a property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four mounting
holes to my board and the come with? text 'REF**'. Update PCB
describes them as 'unused' and proposes to delete them, which is
obviously wrong. I can't find a way to change REF** to something
else. Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
|
Re: Mounting hole problem
Select them and Mark not in schematic as a property.
I'm in trouble again. I added four mounting
holes to my board and the come with? text 'REF**'. Update PCB
describes them as 'unused' and proposes to delete them, which is
obviously wrong. I can't find a way to change REF** to something
else. Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
|
I'm in trouble again. I added four mounting
holes to my board and the come with? text 'REF**'. Update PCB
describes them as 'unused' and proposes to delete them, which is
obviously wrong. I can't find a way to change REF** to something
else. Please advise.
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only
Best Wishes
John Woodgate
Keep trying
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Re: Searching for an existing footprint
Yes, thank you. Now the big problem is that
all the parts may not fit on the largest board I can use. I
really do not want to have two stacked boards.
On 2024-08-28 15:49, Tony Casey wrote:
Hi John,
You did already reply. ?
Hope it all worked out.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 11:39, John Woodgate
wrote:
Hi, Tony. I don't know whether I already
replied to you, but if not, thanks very much.
On 2024-08-25 22:44, Tony Casey
wrote:
Hi
John,
Sorry for the delay, I have been a bit busy lately. Here are
the downloaded KiCad files for the Alps RK11K11410KA that I
obtained through Farnell. The zip includes the KiCad schematic
symbol, PCB footprint and a 3D model.
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Re: Searching for an existing footprint
Hi John,
You did already reply. ?
Hope it all worked out.
--
Regards,
Tony
On 28/08/2024 11:39, John Woodgate
wrote:
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Hi, Tony. I don't know whether I already
replied to you, but if not, thanks very much.
On 2024-08-25 22:44, Tony Casey
wrote:
Hi
John,
Sorry for the delay, I have been a bit busy lately. Here are the
downloaded KiCad files for the Alps RK11K11410KA that I obtained
through Farnell. The zip includes the KiCad schematic symbol,
PCB footprint and a 3D model.
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John Woodgate
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Re: Searching for an existing footprint
Hi, Tony. I don't know whether I already
replied to you, but if not, thanks very much.
On 2024-08-25 22:44, Tony Casey wrote:
Hi
John,
Sorry for the delay, I have been a bit busy lately. Here are the
downloaded KiCad files for the Alps RK11K11410KA that I obtained
through Farnell. The zip includes the KiCad schematic symbol, PCB
footprint and a 3D model.
--
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Best Wishes
John Woodgate
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Thank you. I was sure I had seen the feature,
but I could not find it again.
On 2024-08-27 11:30, Reinier Gerritsen
wrote:
Sure. In the PCB editor, go to Edit, select Global Deletions and
then select exactly what you want to delete (tracks, vias, zones,
text, footprints etc.). You can also select to operate on just one
layer, or on all layers. Powerful tool, use with caution.
Reinier
Op 27-8-2024 om 12:19 schreef John
Woodgate:
Is it possible to delete all tracks at
once on a PCB, due to the need to re-size the board and
changing the footprints of some components, part way through
routing?
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Sure. In the PCB editor, go to Edit, select Global Deletions and
then select exactly what you want to delete (tracks, vias, zones,
text, footprints etc.). You can also select to operate on just one
layer, or on all layers. Powerful tool, use with caution.
Reinier
Op 27-8-2024 om 12:19 schreef John
Woodgate:
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Is it possible to delete all tracks at once
on a PCB, due to the need to re-size the board and changing
the footprints of some components, part way through routing?
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Is it possible to delete all tracks at once on
a PCB, due to the need to re-size the board and changing the
footprints of some components, part way through routing?
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John Woodgate
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Hello Jeff,
?
Your account looks intact. Did you notice any problems I can help with?
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You appear to be on.? Dale :-)? :-)
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