Re: Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
This is a typical zip file/security behavior. It is just coincidence that the file extension ".lib" is on the list of suspicious file types. (As is ".exe", etc. basically any file type that might be executable is marked as possibly malicious. It may also find a "signature" sequence of bytes in a file as well. )?
It is not a KiCAD thing, it happens with many other software as well.?
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 8:16 AM Ken KM4NFQ < km4nfq@...> wrote: Thank you Ahmed, that is a great idea!
I did not think of using a file sharing site. Maybe DropBox, or something similar.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 7:58 AM ahmed galal < a.galal7@...> wrote: I think it can be the .lib files, anyway you can just upload the zip to a file uploading site and share the link with your friend.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 2:39 PM Ken KM4NFQ < km4nfq@...> wrote: Greetings,
To be clear about Gmail blocking a zipped archive of KiCad project files, this is what happens when I try to send an email with an attachment of those files:
If I try to send the email anyway, I get this message:
It does not matter if the recipient of the email does not use Gmail. It is Gmail on MY end that is blocking the attachment from being sent.
My workaround is to append a dot txt ( .txt ) extension to the files, then zip them. Since all the KiCad project files are plain text, that seems to work. Gmail will allow a zipped archive of my project files with a dot txt extension appended. However, it sure is an inconvenience, for both parties, sender and recipient. I have to append the extension, and the recipient has to remove the extension.
That is why I am wondering which files are absolutely necessary for me to send to a friend, so that friend can view my project. When I was studying Eagle CAD, it seems that only a .brd and a .sch file were necessary? I do not quite remember since it has been a long time (I studied? with Eagle 4.x).
Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified" /g/w8bhMorseTutor
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 6:51 AM Ken KM4NFQ via Groups.Io <km4nfq= [email protected]> wrote: Greetings.
I am new to this group and relatively new to KiCad. I started learning
KiCad on 2 December, and today I sent Gerbers for my first PCB to OSH
Park. I have tried to share my KiCad files with a friend, but Gmail
rejected the ZIP archive I tried to attach. Gmail thought there was
something malicious in the archive, even though it has nothing but
KiCad project files in it, which are all plain text. I was able to get
around that rejection by adding a dot txt extension to the end of the
files, then zipping them. My project uses one custom symbol which I
made. The library was made to use with the project, not global. My
question is, what are the essential files that must be sent to my
friend in order for her to use the project on her KiCad PC? Which
files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the
project? We are both using the same version of KiCad.
I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable).
The files in the project directory are:
blink.bak
blink-cache.lib
blink.kicad_pcb
blink.kicad_pcb-bak
blink.sch
fet.bck
fet.dcm
fet.lib
sym-lib-table
Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
/g/w8bhMorseTutor
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Re: Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
On 12/12/19 5:39 AM, Ken KM4NFQ wrote: Which
files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the
project? We are both using the same version of KiCad.
I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable).
The files in the project directory are:
blink.bak
blink-cache.lib
blink.kicad_pcb
blink.kicad_pcb-bak
blink.net
blink.pro
blink.sch
fet.bck
fet.dcm
fet.lib
sym-lib-table The only files I store in my projects version control repositories are *.sch, *.kicad-pcb, *-cache.lib, *.pro -- Regards, Sergey A. Borshch mailto: sb-sf@... SB ELDI ltd. Riga, Latvia
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Re: Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
Thank you Ahmed, that is a great idea!
I did not think of using a file sharing site. Maybe DropBox, or something similar.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 7:58 AM ahmed galal < a.galal7@...> wrote: I think it can be the .lib files, anyway you can just upload the zip to a file uploading site and share the link with your friend.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 2:39 PM Ken KM4NFQ < km4nfq@...> wrote: Greetings,
To be clear about Gmail blocking a zipped archive of KiCad project files, this is what happens when I try to send an email with an attachment of those files:
If I try to send the email anyway, I get this message:
It does not matter if the recipient of the email does not use Gmail. It is Gmail on MY end that is blocking the attachment from being sent.
My workaround is to append a dot txt ( .txt ) extension to the files, then zip them. Since all the KiCad project files are plain text, that seems to work. Gmail will allow a zipped archive of my project files with a dot txt extension appended. However, it sure is an inconvenience, for both parties, sender and recipient. I have to append the extension, and the recipient has to remove the extension.
That is why I am wondering which files are absolutely necessary for me to send to a friend, so that friend can view my project. When I was studying Eagle CAD, it seems that only a .brd and a .sch file were necessary? I do not quite remember since it has been a long time (I studied? with Eagle 4.x).
Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified" /g/w8bhMorseTutor
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 6:51 AM Ken KM4NFQ via Groups.Io <km4nfq= [email protected]> wrote: Greetings.
I am new to this group and relatively new to KiCad. I started learning
KiCad on 2 December, and today I sent Gerbers for my first PCB to OSH
Park. I have tried to share my KiCad files with a friend, but Gmail
rejected the ZIP archive I tried to attach. Gmail thought there was
something malicious in the archive, even though it has nothing but
KiCad project files in it, which are all plain text. I was able to get
around that rejection by adding a dot txt extension to the end of the
files, then zipping them. My project uses one custom symbol which I
made. The library was made to use with the project, not global. My
question is, what are the essential files that must be sent to my
friend in order for her to use the project on her KiCad PC? Which
files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the
project? We are both using the same version of KiCad.
I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable).
The files in the project directory are:
blink.bak
blink-cache.lib
blink.kicad_pcb
blink.kicad_pcb-bak
blink.sch
fet.bck
fet.dcm
fet.lib
sym-lib-table
Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
/g/w8bhMorseTutor
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Re: Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
I think it can be the .lib files, anyway you can just upload the zip to a file uploading site and share the link with your friend.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 2:39 PM Ken KM4NFQ < km4nfq@...> wrote: Greetings,
To be clear about Gmail blocking a zipped archive of KiCad project files, this is what happens when I try to send an email with an attachment of those files:
If I try to send the email anyway, I get this message:
It does not matter if the recipient of the email does not use Gmail. It is Gmail on MY end that is blocking the attachment from being sent.
My workaround is to append a dot txt ( .txt ) extension to the files, then zip them. Since all the KiCad project files are plain text, that seems to work. Gmail will allow a zipped archive of my project files with a dot txt extension appended. However, it sure is an inconvenience, for both parties, sender and recipient. I have to append the extension, and the recipient has to remove the extension.
That is why I am wondering which files are absolutely necessary for me to send to a friend, so that friend can view my project. When I was studying Eagle CAD, it seems that only a .brd and a .sch file were necessary? I do not quite remember since it has been a long time (I studied? with Eagle 4.x).
Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified" /g/w8bhMorseTutor
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 6:51 AM Ken KM4NFQ via Groups.Io <km4nfq= [email protected]> wrote: Greetings.
I am new to this group and relatively new to KiCad. I started learning
KiCad on 2 December, and today I sent Gerbers for my first PCB to OSH
Park. I have tried to share my KiCad files with a friend, but Gmail
rejected the ZIP archive I tried to attach. Gmail thought there was
something malicious in the archive, even though it has nothing but
KiCad project files in it, which are all plain text. I was able to get
around that rejection by adding a dot txt extension to the end of the
files, then zipping them. My project uses one custom symbol which I
made. The library was made to use with the project, not global. My
question is, what are the essential files that must be sent to my
friend in order for her to use the project on her KiCad PC? Which
files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the
project? We are both using the same version of KiCad.
I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable).
The files in the project directory are:
blink.bak
blink-cache.lib
blink.kicad_pcb
blink.kicad_pcb-bak
blink.sch
fet.bck
fet.dcm
fet.lib
sym-lib-table
Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
/g/w8bhMorseTutor
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Re: Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
Greetings,
To be clear about Gmail blocking a zipped archive of KiCad project files, this is what happens when I try to send an email with an attachment of those files:
If I try to send the email anyway, I get this message:
It does not matter if the recipient of the email does not use Gmail. It is Gmail on MY end that is blocking the attachment from being sent.
My workaround is to append a dot txt ( .txt ) extension to the files, then zip them. Since all the KiCad project files are plain text, that seems to work. Gmail will allow a zipped archive of my project files with a dot txt extension appended. However, it sure is an inconvenience, for both parties, sender and recipient. I have to append the extension, and the recipient has to remove the extension.
That is why I am wondering which files are absolutely necessary for me to send to a friend, so that friend can view my project. When I was studying Eagle CAD, it seems that only a .brd and a .sch file were necessary? I do not quite remember since it has been a long time (I studied? with Eagle 4.x).
Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified" /g/w8bhMorseTutor
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 6:51 AM Ken KM4NFQ via Groups.Io <km4nfq= [email protected]> wrote: Greetings.
I am new to this group and relatively new to KiCad. I started learning
KiCad on 2 December, and today I sent Gerbers for my first PCB to OSH
Park. I have tried to share my KiCad files with a friend, but Gmail
rejected the ZIP archive I tried to attach. Gmail thought there was
something malicious in the archive, even though it has nothing but
KiCad project files in it, which are all plain text. I was able to get
around that rejection by adding a dot txt extension to the end of the
files, then zipping them. My project uses one custom symbol which I
made. The library was made to use with the project, not global. My
question is, what are the essential files that must be sent to my
friend in order for her to use the project on her KiCad PC? Which
files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the
project? We are both using the same version of KiCad.
I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable).
The files in the project directory are:
blink.bak
blink-cache.lib
blink.kicad_pcb
blink.kicad_pcb-bak
blink.sch
fet.bck
fet.dcm
fet.lib
sym-lib-table
Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
/g/w8bhMorseTutor
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Re: Convert freePCB footprint t Kicad footprints
Thank you Simon. That? is a very useful tool which I will certainly use in future.
Cheers
Ian
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Sharing a KiCad project with a friend
Greetings. I am new to this group and relatively new to KiCad. I started learning KiCad on 2 December, and today I sent Gerbers for my first PCB to OSH Park. I have tried to share my KiCad files with a friend, but Gmail rejected the ZIP archive I tried to attach. Gmail thought there was something malicious in the archive, even though it has nothing but KiCad project files in it, which are all plain text. I was able to get around that rejection by adding a dot txt extension to the end of the files, then zipping them. My project uses one custom symbol which I made. The library was made to use with the project, not global. My question is, what are the essential files that must be sent to my friend in order for her to use the project on her KiCad PC? Which files can be left out and not affect her viewing or modifying the project? We are both using the same version of KiCad. I am using KiCad 5.0.2 on Debian GNU/Linux 10 "Buster" (Stable). The files in the project directory are: blink.bak blink-cache.lib blink.kicad_pcb blink.kicad_pcb-bak blink.net blink.pro blink.sch fet.bck fet.dcm fet.lib sym-lib-table Regards, Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified" /g/w8bhMorseTutor
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Re: Convert freePCB footprint t Kicad footprints
I don't know about a converter, but making an array of circular placed pins is dead easy once you know it.
open footprint editor and create a new part, for example a rotary switch. measure the distance between opposite pins with a caliper and divide by 2 to get the radius of the circle. place one pad on the horizontal (or vertical if the parts needs that) with the distance to the center (0,0) as the calculated radius. form your part in the right shape, for example a asymmetric oval to help soldering.
Then right click the pad ans choose Create Array...
choose the Circular Array tab and leave the centers as is. the radius is set to the distance of the pad to the center, so not adjustable
set your angle and pad count, including the pad already there and tic rotate, so as to have the asymmetric part rotated in the right orientation.
click Ok.
you now have a circular array of pins. renumber them as needed.
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On 11-12-2019 17:31, Ian Bell wrote: I have a whole bunch of footprints created in freePCB which I have been using for the last ten years or so. Now I am gradually migrating to Kicad I would like to transfer these footprints also. Many of them are of unusual components like rotary switches which are a real pain to recreate because of the geometry involved in working out pad positions. So it would be really nice if there was some automated method of making the transfer. Before I go delving deep into the file formats of freePCB and Kicad footprints I thought I would ask here in case someone has done this already.
Cheers
Ian
--
Met vriendelijke Groet,
Simon Claessen
drukknop.nl
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Re: Traces don't track Footprints during move
Hi Fritz,
One other option that I tend to use as much as 'G' (for drag), I often select a block (by click-hold and drag), and then press the Tab key to drag the entire block with rubber banding wires.
As a side note, most useful options show up in the right click menu.? For example drag shows up when you right click a component, and drag block shows up when you right click after selecting a block of components.
Hope that helps, Aaron
On Thursday, December 12, 2019, 9:22:20 PM EST, fritz <fsonnichsen@...> wrote:
Using past board layout tools when I move a footprint the traces drag
along with it.
I cannot seem to get this to work in KiCad --i have tried "M", selecting
and moving, "drag" and so forth but cannot find how to do this nor can I
find it in the doc.
Any help here appreciated-
Thanks
Fritz
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Re: Traces don't track Footprints during move
You should press G for draG.
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On 12/13/19 2:05 PM, fritz wrote: John
? To test a bit, I have drop two DIP packages on the F.Cu layer. Then I selected the "route tracks" tool and clicked on a pin of one DIP, then the other. A DRC shows no missing connections. However when I us "M" to move one if the DIPs the track remains behind. Am I missing something regarding completing the connection?
Thanks
Fritz
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Re: Traces don't track Footprints during move
John
? To test a bit, I have drop two DIP packages on the F.Cu layer. Then I selected the "route tracks" tool and clicked on a pin of one DIP, then the other. A DRC shows no missing connections. However when I us "M" to move one if the DIPs the track remains behind. Am I missing something regarding completing the connection?
Thanks
Fritz
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On 12/12/2019 9:35 PM, John Baker wrote: Fritz,
I suspect your traces are not actually connected to the footprints. I think that the traces not dragging along with the footprints is actually a symptom of disconnectedness.
Best Wishes,
John
On 12/12/2019 6:22 PM, fritz wrote:
Using past board layout tools when I move a footprint the traces drag along with it.
I cannot seem to get this to work in KiCad --i have tried "M", selecting and moving, "drag" and so forth but cannot find how to do this nor can I find it in the doc.
Any help here appreciated-
Thanks
Fritz
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Re: Traces don't track Footprints during move
Hi,
A moving footprint doesn't drag the tracks connected to it in Kicad.
to move the tracks with the footprint you must select a block. But the tracks will move along with the footprint in the same relative positions, they are not re-routed while dragging.
The drag option only works in the schematic.
Regards,
Pedro.
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El 13/12/19 a las 3:35, John Baker escribi¨®: Fritz,
I suspect your traces are not actually connected to the footprints. I think that the traces not dragging along with the footprints is actually a symptom of disconnectedness.
Best Wishes,
John
On 12/12/2019 6:22 PM, fritz wrote:
Using past board layout tools when I move a footprint the traces drag along with it.
I cannot seem to get this to work in KiCad --i have tried "M", selecting and moving, "drag" and so forth but cannot find how to do this nor can I find it in the doc.
Any help here appreciated-
Thanks
Fritz
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Re: Via Processing Questions
Hi Fritz,
Have you paid attention to the "List Unconnected" option? If all the pads of the schematic (or of the netlist if you create a netlist witout schematic) are connected, the DRC will not complain.
I understood you created the zones and didn't connect them to any track of the circuit.
Maybe you meant you didn't create the zones. The inner zones can be used for normal routing tracks too, or even left void. So the DRC doesn't see a violation of therules.
Regards,
Pedro.
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El 13/12/19 a las 2:52, fritz escribi¨®: I am new to KiCad, (I've used other cads in the past).
I am trying to set up a 4 layer board with the 2 internal layers set to power and ground and components on the F.Cu and B.Cu layers having some interconnections.
---I noted that when I accidentally forgot to set the copper zone on the inner planes it still passed DRC. Shouldn't this raise a flag? (I am certain to forget again in the future!!)
Thanks
Fritz
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Re: Traces don't track Footprints during move
Fritz,
I suspect your traces are not actually connected to the footprints. I think that the traces not dragging along with the footprints is actually a symptom of disconnectedness.
Best Wishes,
John
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On 12/12/2019 6:22 PM, fritz wrote: Using past board layout tools when I move a footprint the traces drag along with it.
I cannot seem to get this to work in KiCad --i have tried "M", selecting and moving, "drag" and so forth but cannot find how to do this nor can I find it in the doc.
Any help here appreciated-
Thanks
Fritz
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Traces don't track Footprints during move
Using past board layout tools when I move a footprint the traces drag along with it.
I cannot seem to get this to work in KiCad --i have tried "M", selecting and moving, "drag" and so forth but cannot find how to do this nor can I find it in the doc.
Any help here appreciated-
Thanks
Fritz
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I am new to KiCad, (I've used other cads in the past).
I am trying to set up a 4 layer board with the 2 internal layers set to power and ground and components on the F.Cu and B.Cu layers having some interconnections.
---I noted that when I accidentally forgot to set the copper zone on the inner planes it still passed DRC. Shouldn't this raise a flag? (I am certain to forget again in the future!!)
Thanks
Fritz
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OK Andy and thanks -
Fritz
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On 12/11/2019 1:46 PM, Andy Eskelson wrote: Not sure regarding the forum reg. Not something that I use.
Which comes down to why two different systems.
This "mailing list" is actually a group, originally on Yahoo groups now
on groups io. The forum came later. It's easy to have the messages sent
as mail and use a mail program to read them, which is very useful if you
belong to m,any different groups. Or you ca use the web interface,
entirely your choice.
Many people don't like the forum interface, so we stay here.
Andy
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:41:40 -0500
"fritz" <fsonnichsen@...> wrote:
I am a new KiCad use. I am trying to get acclimated here and have been
looking in the forum. I tried twice to generate a login and did not get
the indicated email to confirm my registration. i have checked my spam
folder. Is there any other way to get registered?
Also-any reason for both the mailing list and the forum? Do the serve
different purposes?
Thank you
Fritz
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Not sure regarding the forum reg. Not something that I use. Which comes down to why two different systems. This "mailing list" is actually a group, originally on Yahoo groups now on groups io. The forum came later. It's easy to have the messages sent as mail and use a mail program to read them, which is very useful if you belong to m,any different groups. Or you ca use the web interface, entirely your choice. Many people don't like the forum interface, so we stay here. Andy On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:41:40 -0500 "fritz" <fsonnichsen@...> wrote: I am a new KiCad use. I am trying to get acclimated here and have been
looking in the forum. I tried twice to generate a login and did not get
the indicated email to confirm my registration. i have checked my spam
folder. Is there any other way to get registered?
Also-any reason for both the mailing list and the forum? Do the serve
different purposes?
Thank you
Fritz
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Convert freePCB footprint t Kicad footprints
I have a whole bunch of footprints created in freePCB which I have been using for the last ten years or so. Now I am gradually migrating to Kicad I would like to transfer these footprints also. Many of them are of unusual components like rotary switches which are a real pain to recreate because of the geometry involved in working out pad positions. So it would be really nice if there was some automated method of making the transfer. Before I go delving deep into the file formats of freePCB and Kicad footprints I thought I would ask here in case someone has done this already.
Cheers
Ian
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I am a new KiCad use. I am trying to get acclimated here and have been looking in the forum. I tried twice to generate a login and did not get the indicated email to confirm my registration. i have checked my spam folder. Is there any other way to get registered?
Also-any reason for both the mailing list and the forum? Do the serve different purposes?
Thank you
Fritz
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Ken KM4NFQ
Ian Bell