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Re: Blue LED

 

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 09:03 AM, Chris wrote:
From the 3D Viewer in Kicad 6.0.7. All standard library parts.
So transparency is already a feature. Cool.
?
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Oz (in DFW) N1OZ


Re: Blue LED

 

It is possible to do spiral conductors in Kicad. See
for a V5 way to do it.

On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 16:52, Dan Kemppainen <dan@...> wrote:

I've seen stuff get bloated beyond being useful way too often. There is
a balance between needed features, and neat but rarely used features.
Focus on core competencies. Don't get distracted by doing something
because it's cool.

Sticking with the current example. Kicad is not the tool to be doing
photo realistic ray tracing. Give kicad a nice 3D cad export function
and let other 3D related work be done by real 3D cad software.
Just my opinion...

While I'm here. Does kicad support curved traces yet? Real arcs,
spirals, etc. Been waiting for those for years now...

Dan





On 9/12/2022 10:44 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:
I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat. I see
bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really cool
features - that I and most will /never/ use. These make it /much /harder
to use and learn. It takes more than 60 seconds to start. I'd like
that time back.




Re: Blue LED (Curved Traces Fork)

 

On 12/09/2022 16:52, Dan Kemppainen wrote:
While I'm here. Does kicad support curved traces yet? Real arcs,
spirals, etc. Been waiting for those for years now...
Whilst browsing the plug-ins I found a curvy traces plug-in. I only
looked at it briefly, but it seems you draw the traces as usual, and
then fire up the plug in, which smooths the bends. Maybe not quite
what you have in mind, but better than nothing.

Regards,

Robert.


Transparency

 

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Good evening

"That's a Shame"

I realized that the Google translator had mistranslated my message (I do not speak English)

That's not what I meant at all

Stanislas


Re: Blue LED

 

Also Agree.

Pretty pics don't add any value, as has been said they are for mechanical
fit checking. They are also perfectly fine for documentation as-is.

Andy


On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 10:18:09 -0600
"Doug McKnight" <doug@...> wrote:

Absolutely!? Couldn't agree more.? Kicad is wonderful but, IMHO, future
work should be concentrated on core functions.

Doug


On 9/12/2022 9:52 AM, Dan Kemppainen wrote:
I've seen stuff get bloated beyond being useful way too often. There
is a balance between needed features, and neat but rarely used features.
Focus on core competencies. Don't get distracted by doing something
because it's cool.

Sticking with the current example. Kicad is not the tool to be doing
photo realistic ray tracing. Give kicad a nice 3D cad export function
and let other 3D related work be done by real 3D cad software.
Just my opinion...

While I'm here. Does kicad support curved traces yet? Real arcs,
spirals, etc. Been waiting for those for years now...

Dan





On 9/12/2022 10:44 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:
I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat.? I see
bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really
cool features - that I and most will /never/ use. These make it /much
/harder to use and learn.? It takes more than 60 seconds to start.?
I'd like that time back.








Re: Blue LED

 

Absolutely!? Couldn't agree more.? Kicad is wonderful but, IMHO, future work should be concentrated on core functions.

Doug

On 9/12/2022 9:52 AM, Dan Kemppainen wrote:
I've seen stuff get bloated beyond being useful way too often. There is a balance between needed features, and neat but rarely used features.
Focus on core competencies. Don't get distracted by doing something because it's cool.

Sticking with the current example. Kicad is not the tool to be doing photo realistic ray tracing. Give kicad a nice 3D cad export function and let other 3D related work be done by real 3D cad software.
Just my opinion...

While I'm here. Does kicad support curved traces yet? Real arcs, spirals, etc. Been waiting for those for years now...

Dan





On 9/12/2022 10:44 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:
I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat.? I see bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really cool features - that I and most will /never/ use. These make it /much /harder to use and learn.? It takes more than 60 seconds to start.? I'd like that time back.



Re: Blue LED

 

I've seen stuff get bloated beyond being useful way too often. There is a balance between needed features, and neat but rarely used features.
Focus on core competencies. Don't get distracted by doing something because it's cool.

Sticking with the current example. Kicad is not the tool to be doing photo realistic ray tracing. Give kicad a nice 3D cad export function and let other 3D related work be done by real 3D cad software.
Just my opinion...

While I'm here. Does kicad support curved traces yet? Real arcs, spirals, etc. Been waiting for those for years now...

Dan

On 9/12/2022 10:44 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:
I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat.? I see bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really cool features - that I and most will /never/ use. These make it /much /harder to use and learn.? It takes more than 60 seconds to start.? I'd like that time back.


Re: Blue LED

 

From the 3D Viewer in Kicad 6.0.7. All standard library parts.

On 9/12/2022 7:44 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 07:54 AM, Patrick Maupin wrote:

A photorealistic rendition of the entire project, including seeing
the light coming through the PCB, would not be a terrible thing to have.

Undoubted true, but also undoubted low on the list of priorities.

I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat.? I see
bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really cool
features - that I and most will /never/ use. These make it /much /harder
to use and learn.? It takes more than 60 seconds to start.? I'd like
that time back.

--
Oz (in DFW) N1OZ


Re: Blue LED

 

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 07:54 AM, Patrick Maupin wrote:
A photorealistic rendition of the entire project, including seeing the light coming through the PCB, would not be a terrible thing to have.
Undoubted true, but also undoubted low on the list of priorities.?

I'm always worried about new features contributing to bloat.? I see bloat as a great risk to any package. Altium has a number of really cool features - that I and most will never use. These make it?much harder to use and learn.? It takes more than 60 seconds to start.? I'd like that time back.
?
--
Oz (in DFW) N1OZ


Re: Blue LED

 

So, to play Devil's Advocate here:

I've seen a couple of projects on Hackaday where FR4 PCB is used as a light diffuser.

A photorealistic rendition of the entire project, including seeing the light coming through the PCB, would not be a terrible thing to have.

This is by no means a complaint; I love KiCad!

And it's by no means a request; I currently don't have any need for such a thing.? It's merely an observation that a lot of things that may seem irrational at first glance are not necessarily so.

Best regards,
Patrick Maupin


On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 8:41 AM Jorge Ferreira <jorgef.tech@...> wrote:

Hi


In the 3D subject, for me, as long as Kicad allows for mechanically correct 3D models, its all I need.

Meaning what it already does is way more than enough.

After all, the? 3D main use is to make sure the board fits in its place on the finished product, and the interface devices (connectors, buttons, LEDs,...) align correctly with the openings of the enclosure or other boards.


But? I'm only a a 60 years old EE using Kicad for professional work. Other mileage may vary.


BTW, when I need to make a 3D model,? my goto tool is Freecad.


Regards

Jorge



On 12/09/22 10:32, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

I agree

Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 10:56, Angelo Adamo - QSD a écrit?:
High Stanislav,

I'm a 72 and it is a life I'm trying to learn, study, do something, making errors and correcting these.
I urge you to study, try, and try again, make mistakes and correct them, sometimes asking for help.

Angelo

Il giorno lun 12 set 2022 alle ore 10:47 Stanislas Thouret <stanislas.thouret@...> ha scritto:

Hello I'm not a graphic designer

?I'm a 79 year old retiree and I use Kicad to work my brain :-)


Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 09:35, Zoran A. Scepanovic a écrit?:

If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

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Hi


In the 3D subject, for me, as long as Kicad allows for mechanically correct 3D models, its all I need.

Meaning what it already does is way more than enough.

After all, the? 3D main use is to make sure the board fits in its place on the finished product, and the interface devices (connectors, buttons, LEDs,...) align correctly with the openings of the enclosure or other boards.


But? I'm only a a 60 years old EE using Kicad for professional work. Other mileage may vary.


BTW, when I need to make a 3D model,? my goto tool is Freecad.


Regards

Jorge



On 12/09/22 10:32, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

I agree

Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 10:56, Angelo Adamo - QSD a écrit?:
High Stanislav,

I'm a 72 and it is a life I'm trying to learn, study, do something, making errors and correcting these.
I urge you to study, try, and try again, make mistakes and correct them, sometimes asking for help.

Angelo

Il giorno lun 12 set 2022 alle ore 10:47 Stanislas Thouret <stanislas.thouret@...> ha scritto:

Hello I'm not a graphic designer

?I'm a 79 year old retiree and I use Kicad to work my brain :-)


Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 09:35, Zoran A. Scepanovic a écrit?:

If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

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I agree

Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 10:56, Angelo Adamo - QSD a écrit?:

High Stanislav,

I'm a 72 and it is a life I'm trying to learn, study, do something, making errors and correcting these.
I urge you to study, try, and try again, make mistakes and correct them, sometimes asking for help.

Angelo

Il giorno lun 12 set 2022 alle ore 10:47 Stanislas Thouret <stanislas.thouret@...> ha scritto:

Hello I'm not a graphic designer

?I'm a 79 year old retiree and I use Kicad to work my brain :-)


Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 09:35, Zoran A. Scepanovic a écrit?:

If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

High Stanislav,

I'm a 72 and it is a life I'm trying to learn, study, do something, making errors and correcting these.
I urge you to study, try, and try again, make mistakes and correct them, sometimes asking for help.

Angelo

Il giorno lun 12 set 2022 alle ore 10:47 Stanislas Thouret <stanislas.thouret@...> ha scritto:

Hello I'm not a graphic designer

?I'm a 79 year old retiree and I use Kicad to work my brain :-)


Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 09:35, Zoran A. Scepanovic a écrit?:

If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

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Hello I'm not a graphic designer

?I'm a 79 year old retiree and I use Kicad to work my brain :-)


Stanislas


Le 12/09/2022 à 09:35, Zoran A. Scepanovic a écrit?:

If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

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If you are graphical designer, why the hell are you using KiCAD?

There is a tool for every job. Personaly I don't give a f*** for photorealism, functionality is my goal. If someone does not like the rendering, it is his/her problem.

On 11.9.22. 21:17, Stanislas Thouret wrote:

Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas

--
Best regards,
Zoran ??epanovi?


Re: Blue LED

 

LV, I really agree


Il giorno lun 12 set 2022 alle ore 08:58 LV <victor.levandovsky@...> ha scritto:
"Shame" - is to use the tool for other than its intended. :)
Nobody use KiCAD for photo realistic 3D.


Re: Blue LED

 

"Shame" - is to use the tool for other than its intended. :)
Nobody use KiCAD for photo realistic 3D.


Blue LED

 

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Blue LED designed by my son with Fusion 360.

Fusion 360 handles transparency but not Kicad. That's a shame.


Stanislas


Re: Libraries

 

DigiKey has a library. Not sure if it has everything you need.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 12:47:08 AM MDT, Stanislas Thouret <stanislas.thouret@...> wrote:


Hello Where can I find one or more component libraries for Kicad in which I will have 3D resistors with value rings?

And also a 555 circuit with the manufacturer's reference and logo?

Thanks for your help


Stanislas Thouret


Re: Libraries

 

I don't know that you will find the items you are looking for. I don't
think there is a way to make the rings on the resistor change to match
the value (which I think is what you are asking for), and the chip is
a generic chip body that is used for any 8 pin DIP chip, so won't have
any markings on it.

The 3D representations are there for visualising how the components
are going to fit on the board, and allow export to other CAD programs
for mechanical fit checking, not to be an absolutely exact
representative of the individual items.

On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 07:47, Stanislas Thouret
<stanislas.thouret@...> wrote:

Hello Where can I find one or more component libraries for Kicad in which I will have 3D resistors with value rings?

And also a 555 circuit with the manufacturer's reference and logo?

Thanks for your help


Stanislas Thouret