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Locked Problem with a very simple signaling #dcc-ex #signals

 

I continue to explore JRMI and especially the signals.? I try to set up a three-light signal.
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My environment : JRMI 5.8 on windows
DCC ++ running on a arduino mega
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What I did :
With "Configure DCC ++ base station" I created three outputs (DT100,101 and 102) respectively connected to auduino pins 22,23 and 24. I can see the three outputs on the turnout table.
I created a signal Heads with these three outputs using the signal heads table. The signal works perfectly. I added this signal on my layout OK
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Everything works perfectly, but after a few minutes the outputs are not controlled anymore (I can see it in the turnout table). ? It looks like that the link between the signals and the turnouts is lost ?
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Any idea?
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Thanks.

 

Is this a DCC-EX connection issue, or is it about the steps needed to utilize the signal head once it exists in the signal heads table?
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Did you follow the instructions to define the logic within JMRI, such as https://www.jmri.org/help/en/html/tools/signaling/AspectSignaling.shtml
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If you want to check the connection to the command station,
use the DCC++ Traffic Monitor to capture the commands sent/received.
Confirm that the expected commands are being sent by JMRI, etc.
(This is with the Traffic Monitor option checkboxes 'show timestamps' and 'show raw data' and not the translation.)
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Change the Appearance drop-down in the Signal Heads table
?from RED TO GREEN? ?
12:35:14.553: [Z 217 1]? ? the command sent by JMRI??
12:35:14.553: [Y 217 1]? ? the reply from the command station
12:35:14.555: [Z 216 1] ?
12:35:14.584: [Y 216 1] ?
12:35:14.585: [Z 215 0] ?
12:35:14.594: [Y 215 0] ?
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Use the Send DCC++ Command window
upper case Z to see the list of defined digital outputs and their state
12:37:07.569: [Z] ?
12:37:07.570: [Y 215 25 0 0] ?
12:37:07.573: [Y 216 26 0 1] ?
12:37:07.585: [Y 217 27 0 1] ?
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For further discussion regarding the connection to DCC-EX, check out the discord server.
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Regards,
Ash__
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Hi,

Whan I go from Red to Green I can see a strange command in the DCC ++ traffic monitor :

08:31:06.647: TX: Accessory Decoder Cmd: Address: 50, Subaddr: 3, State: OFF

I have no accessory decoder ???

Any idea ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...

De: "Ash__" <mcc9345@...>
?: [email protected]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 6 Octobre 2024 15:10:29
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Problem with a very simple signaling

Is this a DCC-EX connection issue, or is it about the steps needed to utilize the signal head once it exists in the signal heads table?
?
Did you follow the instructions to define the logic within JMRI, such as https://www.jmri.org/help/en/html/tools/signaling/AspectSignaling.shtml
?
If you want to check the connection to the command station,
use the DCC++ Traffic Monitor to capture the commands sent/received.
Confirm that the expected commands are being sent by JMRI, etc.
(This is with the Traffic Monitor option checkboxes 'show timestamps' and 'show raw data' and not the translation.)
?
Change the Appearance drop-down in the Signal Heads table
?from RED TO GREEN? ?
12:35:14.553: [Z 217 1]? ? the command sent by JMRI??
12:35:14.553: [Y 217 1]? ? the reply from the command station
12:35:14.555: [Z 216 1] ?
12:35:14.584: [Y 216 1] ?
12:35:14.585: [Z 215 0] ?
12:35:14.594: [Y 215 0] ?
?
Use the Send DCC++ Command window
upper case Z to see the list of defined digital outputs and their state
12:37:07.569: [Z] ?
12:37:07.570: [Y 215 25 0 0] ?
12:37:07.573: [Y 216 26 0 1] ?
12:37:07.585: [Y 217 27 0 1] ?
?
For further discussion regarding the connection to DCC-EX, check out the discord server.
?
Regards,
Ash__
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RE:? the DCC accessory command
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LEDs can be connected to a DCC accessory decoder.??Some features in JMRI may provide the option to select how the LED is connected -- and provide the command needed.? Others may not have that flexibility.
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For example, the JMRI Lights table only sends DCC accessory commands.? If you want to use the Lights table with DCC-EX vpin outputs, there is a work-around which uses myFilter.cpp in the DCC-EX sketch.
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You may want to approach the issue by figuring out what signaling option to implement.
JMRI has various options
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DCC-EX also has logic which can enable setting LEDs based on turnout state.
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SIGNAL(36, 0, 37) ?// vpins red/amber/green
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ONTHROW(3) ?// turnout ID 3
? RED(36)
DONE
ONCLOSE(3)
? GREEN(36)
DONE
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Ash,

Thanks, but that was not really my question.

I? have three double coil turnouts defined in myTurnout.h :

// Turnout declarations
ALIAS(T1, 200)
ALIAS(T2, 201)
ALIAS(T3, 202)

// Dual_Coil turnouts
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T1, 40, 41, 42, "Turnout 1")
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T2, 43, 44, 45, "Turnout 2")
DUAL_COIL_TURNOUT(T3, 46, 47, 48, "Turnout 2")

I can see them in Configure DCC base station as Vpin.


I can see them in JRMI the turnout table.



But, when I click to change the state? this is what I can see on the DCC monitor:

Strange ....

Any idea ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...

De: "Ash__" <mcc9345@...>
?: [email protected]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Lundi 7 Octobre 2024 10:39:30
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Problem with a very simple signaling #dcc-ex #signals

RE:? the DCC accessory command
?
LEDs can be connected to a DCC accessory decoder.??Some features in JMRI may provide the option to select how the LED is connected -- and provide the command needed.? Others may not have that flexibility.
?
For example, the JMRI Lights table only sends DCC accessory commands.? If you want to use the Lights table with DCC-EX vpin outputs, there is a work-around which uses myFilter.cpp in the DCC-EX sketch.
?
You may want to approach the issue by figuring out what signaling option to implement.
JMRI has various options
?
DCC-EX also has logic which can enable setting LEDs based on turnout state.
? ? - - example:
SIGNAL(36, 0, 37) ?// vpins red/amber/green
?
ONTHROW(3) ?// turnout ID 3
? RED(36)
DONE
ONCLOSE(3)
? GREEN(36)
DONE
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Jean-Louis,
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Perhaps there is a setup step needed to select the BSTURNOUT 'Mode'.
To display the Mode column, use the checkbox in the turnouts table screen:
Show Feedback Information
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The mode dropdown should be set to
DIRECT - for DCC accessory/turnout decoder commands
BSTURNOUT? - for vpin/other turnout Throw/Close commands
BSOUTPUT - for vpin digital output accessories
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Use the 'Show Raw Data' checkbox in the Traffic Monitor to see the commands sent.
?-- examples:
15:26:08.441: [a 106 3 1] ?
15:26:11.261: [a 106 3 0] ?
15:26:21.231: [T 424 1] ?
15:26:21.233: [H 424 1] ?
15:26:23.867: [T 424 0] ?
15:26:23.869: [H 424 0] ?
15:26:33.210: [Z 424 0] ?
15:26:33.212: [X] ?? ? ? ? ? ?- X reply means it is not defined as digital output
15:26:34.303: [Z 424 1] ?
15:26:34.305: [X] ?
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Thats's it.?

Thanks Ash.

JeanLouisDelestre@...

De: "Ash__" <mcc9345@...>
?: [email protected]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Lundi 7 Octobre 2024 16:41:52
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Problem with a very simple signaling #dcc-ex #signals

Jean-Louis,
?
Perhaps there is a setup step needed to select the BSTURNOUT 'Mode'.
To display the Mode column, use the checkbox in the turnouts table screen:
Show Feedback Information
?
The mode dropdown should be set to
DIRECT - for DCC accessory/turnout decoder commands
BSTURNOUT? - for vpin/other turnout Throw/Close commands
BSOUTPUT - for vpin digital output accessories
?
Use the 'Show Raw Data' checkbox in the Traffic Monitor to see the commands sent.
?-- examples:
15:26:08.441: [a 106 3 1] ?
15:26:11.261: [a 106 3 0] ?
15:26:21.231: [T 424 1] ?
15:26:21.233: [H 424 1] ?
15:26:23.867: [T 424 0] ?
15:26:23.869: [H 424 0] ?
15:26:33.210: [Z 424 0] ?
15:26:33.212: [X] ?? ? ? ? ? ?- X reply means it is not defined as digital output
15:26:34.303: [Z 424 1] ?
15:26:34.305: [X] ?
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