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I have lost much of my sight and find it a bit difficult to read the switch list and manifest reports printed out by JMRI. i recently purchased a new printer to address the problem but still the print is somewhat light even after changing all the print setting on the printer. If I capture a screen shot of a portion of a switch list using the screen capture program "JING" the captured switch list printing is black and easy to read. Is there a modification to Panel Pro for printing darker print? Can one print through another program such as Excel to try addressing this issue.


James Allen
jcallen1@...


 

Screen capturing a window gives you the 'graphic' image which is going to
have the actual fonts and colors displayed on the screen. In many cases
the text is not a deep black but a lighter grey or some other color. The
printer is reproducing the 'lightness' of the actual font.

A couple of things you can try. First, bring up the printer properties in
the print dialog and make sure it is printing in black and white. Not
color or gray-scale. Secondly you might be able to modify the text color
and font style in the program itself to give you a true black text in the
display. Third, maybe you can highlight, cut and paste the listing from
the program window into Notepad so you can get actual text which you can
resize and bolden before you print. It is very possible that the position
formatting will get all screwed up though.

Be interested to hear what if anything works for you.

Mike Piazza

On Aug 4, 2017 11:14 PM, "James Allen jcallen1@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



I have lost much of my sight and find it a bit difficult to read the
switch list and manifest reports printed out by JMRI. i recently purchased
a new printer to address the problem but still the print is somewhat light
even after changing all the print setting on the printer. If I capture a
screen shot of a portion of a switch list using the screen capture program
"JING" the captured switch list printing is black and easy to read. Is
there a modification to Panel Pro for printing darker print? Can one print
through another program such as Excel to try addressing this issue.

James Allen
jcallen1@...





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Thanks Mike Pizza. I'll try some of those approaches. Much appreciate your help.


James Allen
jcallen1@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Aug 5 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING






Screen capturing a window gives you the 'graphic' image which is going to
have the actual fonts and colors displayed on the screen. In many cases
the text is not a deep black but a lighter grey or some other color. The
printer is reproducing the 'lightness' of the actual font.

A couple of things you can try. First, bring up the printer properties in
the print dialog and make sure it is printing in black and white. Not
color or gray-scale. Secondly you might be able to modify the text color
and font style in the program itself to give you a true black text in the
display. Third, maybe you can highlight, cut and paste the listing from
the program window into Notepad so you can get actual text which you can
resize and bolden before you print. It is very possible that the position
formatting will get all screwed up though.

Be interested to hear what if anything works for you.

Mike Piazza

On Aug 4, 2017 11:14 PM, "James Allen jcallen1@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



I have lost much of my sight and find it a bit difficult to read the
switch list and manifest reports printed out by JMRI. i recently purchased
a new printer to address the problem but still the print is somewhat light
even after changing all the print setting on the printer. If I capture a
screen shot of a portion of a switch list using the screen capture program
"JING" the captured switch list printing is black and easy to read. Is
there a modification to Panel Pro for printing darker print? Can one print
through another program such as Excel to try addressing this issue.

James Allen
jcallen1@...





 

Mike. Your idea regarding Notepad got me to experiment and come up with a workaround that works. Since JMRI uses Notepad I changed the font in Notepad to "Cooper Black". Now when the switchlist or manifest list is shown I highlight it, select copy, go to Microsoft word and paste it there. Now when I print the switch list or manifest it prints the dark readable copy of the switchlist as shown on the JMRI screen
Thanks so much for your help and inspiration.


James Allen
jcallen1@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Aug 5 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING






Screen capturing a window gives you the 'graphic' image which is going to
have the actual fonts and colors displayed on the screen. In many cases
the text is not a deep black but a lighter grey or some other color. The
printer is reproducing the 'lightness' of the actual font.

A couple of things you can try. First, bring up the printer properties in
the print dialog and make sure it is printing in black and white. Not
color or gray-scale. Secondly you might be able to modify the text color
and font style in the program itself to give you a true black text in the
display. Third, maybe you can highlight, cut and paste the listing from
the program window into Notepad so you can get actual text which you can
resize and bolden before you print. It is very possible that the position
formatting will get all screwed up though.

Be interested to hear what if anything works for you.

Mike Piazza

On Aug 4, 2017 11:14 PM, "James Allen jcallen1@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



I have lost much of my sight and find it a bit difficult to read the
switch list and manifest reports printed out by JMRI. i recently purchased
a new printer to address the problem but still the print is somewhat light
even after changing all the print setting on the printer. If I capture a
screen shot of a portion of a switch list using the screen capture program
"JING" the captured switch list printing is black and easy to read. Is
there a modification to Panel Pro for printing darker print? Can one print
through another program such as Excel to try addressing this issue.

James Allen
jcallen1@...

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Mike Piazza. I forgot to mention that I use size 18 font when I print the switch list in Microsoft Word.


James Allen
jcallen1@...

-----Original Message-----
From: James Allen jcallen1@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Aug 5 10:34 am
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING






Mike. Your idea regarding Notepad got me to experiment and come up with a workaround that works. Since JMRI uses Notepad I changed the font in Notepad to "Cooper Black". Now when the switchlist or manifest list is shown I highlight it, select copy, go to Microsoft word and paste it there. Now when I print the switch list or manifest it prints the dark readable copy of the switchlist as shown on the JMRI screen
Thanks so much for your help and inspiration.

James Allen
jcallen1@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Aug 5 9:14 am
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING

Screen capturing a window gives you the 'graphic' image which is going to
have the actual fonts and colors displayed on the screen. In many cases
the text is not a deep black but a lighter grey or some other color. The
printer is reproducing the 'lightness' of the actual font.

A couple of things you can try. First, bring up the printer properties in
the print dialog and make sure it is printing in black and white. Not
color or gray-scale. Secondly you might be able to modify the text color
and font style in the program itself to give you a true black text in the
display. Third, maybe you can highlight, cut and paste the listing from
the program window into Notepad so you can get actual text which you can
resize and bolden before you print. It is very possible that the position
formatting will get all screwed up though.

Be interested to hear what if anything works for you.

Mike Piazza

On Aug 4, 2017 11:14 PM, "James Allen jcallen1@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:



I have lost much of my sight and find it a bit difficult to read the
switch list and manifest reports printed out by JMRI. i recently purchased
a new printer to address the problem but still the print is somewhat light
even after changing all the print setting on the printer. If I capture a
screen shot of a portion of a switch list using the screen capture program
"JING" the captured switch list printing is black and easy to read. Is
there a modification to Panel Pro for printing darker print? Can one print
through another program such as Excel to try addressing this issue.

James Allen
jcallen1@...

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I seem to have come in the middle of this discussion but ... I have created
several, what I call "Manifest Creators". I believe that one or more of
this would do what you are looking for. I continue in my efforts to create
the documentation so that they are "stand alone" Apps. At the moment, I
still need to do some explanation when someone new begins using them. The
early versions have been around for several years. JMRI includes a Link
(the RUN command) that will automatically "run" the app without leaving
JMRI.

These are all written in VBA within Excel using the CSV files that Dan B
provides. If you or anyone is interested feel free to get with me. Some of
these Apps are available in the JMRI User Group Files section under
Operations and are generally know as "Manifest Creator". I have also begun
the creation of a website so that the files can be removed from with the
Files section so as to free up space within that area of the User Group .
The issue is that the website, much like the documentation, is not
complete. I am rather sporadic in my attempts to update both the
documentation and the Website.

I would be happy to send samples (and the Apps) of any or all of my
creators to anyone interested. However, you must be running MS Excel
version 2000.

You can find additional information at .
But please be aware that this site is not complete. So if, after learning
more, you are interested, please let me know. You can respond via the user
group or reach me directly at DannyDont@... ... all for now,

Dan Foltz

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*




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Dan

Quick question. You say Excel 2000 - Is that a minimum, or exact requirement? For example, I'm running 2010, so I'm out of luck? What's the issue, VBA version compatibility, or something else?

Blair Smith

On 17/08/06 10:02, Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] wrote:
I seem to have come in the middle of this discussion but ... I have created
several, what I call "Manifest Creators". I believe that one or more of
this would do what you are looking for. I continue in my efforts to create
the documentation so that they are "stand alone" Apps. At the moment, I
still need to do some explanation when someone new begins using them. The
early versions have been around for several years. JMRI includes a Link
(the RUN command) that will automatically "run" the app without leaving
JMRI.

These are all written in VBA within Excel using the CSV files that Dan B
provides. If you or anyone is interested feel free to get with me. Some of
these Apps are available in the JMRI User Group Files section under
Operations and are generally know as "Manifest Creator". I have also begun
the creation of a website so that the files can be removed from with the
Files section so as to free up space within that area of the User Group .
The issue is that the website, much like the documentation, is not
complete. I am rather sporadic in my attempts to update both the
documentation and the Website.

I would be happy to send samples (and the Apps) of any or all of my
creators to anyone interested. However, you must be running MS Excel
version 2000.

You can find additional information at .
But please be aware that this site is not complete. So if, after learning
more, you are interested, please let me know. You can respond via the user
group or reach me directly at DannyDont@... ... all for now,

Dan Foltz

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*




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Hi Dan,
I appreciate all you have done with Manifest Creator. In the last email you said it requires MS Excel 2000. Should that be..."2000 to ???". I'm using it with MS Excel 2010.
Thanks again for providing this,
Gary Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:02 AM
To: JMRI User Group
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING

I seem to have come in the middle of this discussion but ... I have created several, what I call "Manifest Creators". I believe that one or more of this would do what you are looking for. I continue in my efforts to create the documentation so that they are "stand alone" Apps. At the moment, I still need to do some explanation when someone new begins using them. The early versions have been around for several years. JMRI includes a Link (the RUN command) that will automatically "run" the app without leaving JMRI.

These are all written in VBA within Excel using the CSV files that Dan B provides. If you or anyone is interested feel free to get with me. Some of these Apps are available in the JMRI User Group Files section under Operations and are generally know as "Manifest Creator". I have also begun the creation of a website so that the files can be removed from with the Files section so as to free up space within that area of the User Group .
The issue is that the website, much like the documentation, is not complete. I am rather sporadic in my attempts to update both the documentation and the Website.

I would be happy to send samples (and the Apps) of any or all of my creators to anyone interested. However, you must be running MS Excel version 2000.

You can find additional information at .
But please be aware that this site is not complete. So if, after learning more, you are interested, please let me know. You can respond via the user group or reach me directly at DannyDont@... ... all for now,

Dan Foltz

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you change it." *
*?Unknown*




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Hi Blair,
I'm running it on 2010. Don't know much about Excel and a friend helped me set it up and I've used Manifest Creator with it for several sessions.
Gary Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:10 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING

Dan

Quick question. You say Excel 2000 - Is that a minimum, or exact requirement? For example, I'm running 2010, so I'm out of luck? What's the issue, VBA version compatibility, or something else?

Blair Smith



On 17/08/06 10:02, Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] wrote:
I seem to have come in the middle of this discussion but ... I have
created several, what I call "Manifest Creators". I believe that one
or more of this would do what you are looking for. I continue in my
efforts to create the documentation so that they are "stand alone"
Apps. At the moment, I still need to do some explanation when someone
new begins using them. The early versions have been around for several
years. JMRI includes a Link (the RUN command) that will automatically
"run" the app without leaving JMRI.

These are all written in VBA within Excel using the CSV files that Dan
B provides. If you or anyone is interested feel free to get with me.
Some of these Apps are available in the JMRI User Group Files section
under Operations and are generally know as "Manifest Creator". I have
also begun the creation of a website so that the files can be removed
from with the Files section so as to free up space within that area of the User Group .
The issue is that the website, much like the documentation, is not
complete. I am rather sporadic in my attempts to update both the
documentation and the Website.

I would be happy to send samples (and the Apps) of any or all of my
creators to anyone interested. However, you must be running MS Excel
version 2000.

You can find additional information at .
But please be aware that this site is not complete. So if, after
learning more, you are interested, please let me know. You can respond
via the user group or reach me directly at DannyDont@... ... all
for now,

Dan Foltz

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
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Thanks, Gary. I'd still like to hear from Dan, in case there's some esoteric niche of non-support he's aware of. Otherwise, sounds good!

Blair

On 17/08/06 11:44, 'Gary Ray' gerber1926@... [jmriusers] wrote:
Hi Blair,
I'm running it on 2010. Don't know much about Excel and a friend helped me set it up and I've used Manifest Creator with it for several sessions.
Gary Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 7:10 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING

Dan

Quick question. You say Excel 2000 - Is that a minimum, or exact requirement? For example, I'm running 2010, so I'm out of luck? What's the issue, VBA version compatibility, or something else?

Blair Smith



On 17/08/06 10:02, Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] wrote:
I seem to have come in the middle of this discussion but ... I have
created several, what I call "Manifest Creators". I believe that one
or more of this would do what you are looking for. I continue in my
efforts to create the documentation so that they are "stand alone"
Apps. At the moment, I still need to do some explanation when someone
new begins using them. The early versions have been around for several
years. JMRI includes a Link (the RUN command) that will automatically
"run" the app without leaving JMRI.

These are all written in VBA within Excel using the CSV files that Dan
B provides. If you or anyone is interested feel free to get with me.
Some of these Apps are available in the JMRI User Group Files section
under Operations and are generally know as "Manifest Creator". I have
also begun the creation of a website so that the files can be removed
from with the Files section so as to free up space within that area of the User Group .
The issue is that the website, much like the documentation, is not
complete. I am rather sporadic in my attempts to update both the
documentation and the Website.

I would be happy to send samples (and the Apps) of any or all of my
creators to anyone interested. However, you must be running MS Excel
version 2000.

You can find additional information at .
But please be aware that this site is not complete. So if, after
learning more, you are interested, please let me know. You can respond
via the user group or reach me directly at DannyDont@... ... all
for now,

Dan Foltz

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*




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My attempt with that wording was to say that you needed at least Excel
2000. It will work with all of the newer versions.

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*


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Just to make sure, Manifest Creator and all of it's "offshoots" will run on
*any* version of MS Excel/Windows beginning with Excel 2000. So you can use
Excel 2000 or NEWER.

Also there are currently nine (9) different versions / formats to select
from. This includes car images included with the manifest, two column
manifests, Freight Bills and Empty Car Cards, and what some call more
prototypical Train Lists, Switch Lists, and Train Orders. One of these
versions mimics JMRI's (Dan B) standard manifest, but "*might*" provide
additional flexibility.

My current time is spent in an attempt to "corral" the coding so that my
maintenance chores can be reduced. It seems as if I work like the old
saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". So get in touch with me and we
will see what can happen.

NOTE: It is a GOOD THING that Dan B is much more dedicated that I am. But
if you are willing to be in my environment for the time being, I welcome
you aboard!!!

NOTE: Not all nine versions support both JMRI Manifests and Switch Lists.
Originally there was not a call to create the JMRI Switch Lists but with
newer versions, the Switch Lists portion is part of the "*package*".


*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*


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Whoops, I skipped this message. Actually there are two different Excel Apps
for each Manifest version, if you follow that. One is for Excel 2007 or
older (back to 2000) and the other is for Excel 2020 and newer (up through
Excel 365). In MicroSoft's infinite wisdom, that made some significant
changes to VBA or internal parameters that made the original code
non-functional in the later versions. But both App versions of each of the
nine Manifest versions have been tested and function.

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*


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Thanks, Dan. I've maintained VBA code across various versions of Excel before, so I know your pain. I'm not at the point of using JMRI and these extensions yet, but it's good to know it's a living app, not a dead-end effort.

Regards

Blair

On 17/08/06 16:51, Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] wrote:
Whoops, I skipped this message. Actually there are two different Excel Apps
for each Manifest version, if you follow that. One is for Excel 2007 or
older (back to 2000) and the other is for Excel 2020 and newer (up through
Excel 365). In MicroSoft's infinite wisdom, that made some significant
changes to VBA or internal parameters that made the original code
non-functional in the later versions. But both App versions of each of the
nine Manifest versions have been tested and function.


 

Thanks Dan, regarding the Excel apps.


James Allen
jcallen1@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: JMRI User Group <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Aug 6 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING






Whoops, I skipped this message. Actually there are two different Excel Apps
for each Manifest version, if you follow that. One is for Excel 2007 or
older (back to 2000) and the other is for Excel 2020 and newer (up through
Excel 365). In MicroSoft's infinite wisdom, that made some significant
changes to VBA or internal parameters that made the original code
non-functional in the later versions. But both App versions of each of the
nine Manifest versions have been tested and function.

*Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz*

*?*
*"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you
change it." *
*?Unknown*