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Locked NCE not reading AIU


 

Hello, I¡¯m just getting into this myself. I have a Power Pro with version 2007c software. I have 2 AIU¡¯s wired up to 17 BD-20¡¯s, and a switch-it 8 for turnouts.

I¡¯m able to add turnouts and make them work in layout editor just fine. My problem is, is that I can¡¯t seem to get my system to detect an occupied block. I¡¯ve made the sensor table with the sensors/pins (like NS784, etc). But to no avail. In the NCE monitoring on the startup menu, it seems to be reading the AIU¡¯s. It show it switching back and forth between #50 and #51.

Yes I¡¯m working on this for myself to learn to do it, but I also work at a train store and am learning it to be more helpful to the customers asking about it. Any information you could suggest would be appreciated

Michael


 

Michael,

Key things to keep in mind:

1. Set the right address on the AIU.
1.1. CS02/PowerHouse command stations, that usually means starting at 50 and
working up from there.
1.2. USB based command stations, it depends on the firmware in the command
station and in the USB interface. Is always 10 or less.
1.3. Older USB and related command stations, use 3 for the Interface and 4
for the AIU.
2. The sensors must be created in JMRI before it will check for the
hardware.
3. Entering the system value like 50:1, it is much simpler than figuring the
NS### value.
4. If the LEDs on the input bits are not changing, JMRI won't see anything
change either.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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In the NCE Command Monitor:
- If all AIU lights are off the return value should be 3f ff
- If AIU light 1 is on and all others are off the return value should be 3f fe
- If all AIU lights are on the return value should be 00 00
- If an AIU is not present at the specified address, the return value will be 00 00
--
Dave in Australia

On 9 Nov 2018, at 5:00 AM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

But to no avail. In the NCE monitoring on the startup menu, it seems to be reading the AIU¡¯s. It show it switching back and forth between #50 and #51.


 

Thanks guys. I will check when I get home and let you know. I do know that the leds on the AIU do light up as the locomotive moves across the layout. But wasn¡¯t able to get anything to read on layout editor.

On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

In the NCE Command Monitor:
- If all AIU lights are off the return value should be 3f ff
- If AIU light 1 is on and all others are off the return value should be 3f fe
- If all AIU lights are on the return value should be 00 00
- If an AIU is not present at the specified address, the return value will be 00 00
--
Dave in Australia


On 9 Nov 2018, at 5:00 AM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

But to no avail. In the NCE monitoring on the startup menu, it seems to be reading the AIU¡¯s. It show it switching back and forth between #50 and #51.


 

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Just check what Dave said, both AIU¡¯s are cycling back and forth in the NCE command monitor. Turnout with throw, so it seems to be reading through the serial port. The leds light up as the train moves around the track. So the BD 20¡¯s seem to be working. But no detection whether I click unknown, active, or inactive.?


On Nov 8, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

Thanks guys. I will check when I get home and let you know. I do know that the leds on the AIU do light up as the locomotive moves across the layout. But wasn¡¯t able to get anything to read on layout editor.
On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

In the NCE Command Monitor:
- If all AIU lights are off the return value should be 3f ff
- If AIU light 1 is on and all others are off the return value should be 3f fe
- If all AIU lights are on the return value should be 00 00
- If an AIU is not present at the specified address, the return value will be 00 00
--
Dave in Australia


On 9 Nov 2018, at 5:00 AM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

But to no avail. In the NCE monitoring on the startup menu, it seems to be reading the AIU¡¯s. It show it switching back and forth between #50 and #51.







 

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Michael,

It is very important to check the return values from the queries to your AIUs. Make sure you tick the "Show Raw Data" checkbox in the Command Monitor.

Please tell us what return values you are getting from each AIU. Use the "Freeze Screen" button so you can read the values for each AIU.

Then check against the table below. You can select and copy data from the frozen screen and post for me to see.

--?
Dave


On 9 Nov 2018, at 3:09 PM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

Just check what Dave said, both AIU¡¯s are cycling back and forth in the NCE command monitor. Turnout with throw, so it seems to be reading through the serial port. The leds light up as the train moves around the track. So the BD 20¡¯s seem to be working. But no detection whether I click unknown, active, or inactive.?


On Nov 8, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Michael Murphy <smurfmm@...> wrote:

Thanks guys. I will check when I get home and let you know. I do know that the leds on the AIU do light up as the locomotive moves across the layout. But wasn¡¯t able to get anything to read on layout editor.
On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

In the NCE Command Monitor:
- If all AIU lights are off the return value should be 3f ff
- If AIU light 1 is on and all others are off the return value should be 3f fe
- If all AIU lights are on the return value should be 00 00
- If an AIU is not present at the specified address, the return value will be 00 00


 

Michael,

Use the Show Cabs command from the NCE menu to see if your Power Pro can see the two AIUs and if so at what cab bus addresses.

AIU 50: NS784 to NS797. DIP Switches 1-6: on,off,on,on,off,off
AIU 51: NS800 to NS814. DIP Switches 1-6: off,off,on,on,off,off

DIP Switches ON - push toward LEDs
DIP Switches OFF - push away from LEDs
--
Dave in Australia


 

Thank You!!!

Dave, I had read the AIU directions wrong, I have the switches backwards. It worked!! According to their diagram I thought ¡°on¡± was away from the leds. So once I get back in town Sunday, I will finish my panel. There is still one question with detection,,,

I have a crossover, when the locomotive is in that block, whether it¡¯s thrown or closed, both tracks light up as occupied even though they are both on their own BD20. Is there a way to separate them?

On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:

Michael,

Use the Show Cabs command from the NCE menu to see if your Power Pro can see the two AIUs and if so at what cab bus addresses.

AIU 50: NS784 to NS797. DIP Switches 1-6: on,off,on,on,off,off
AIU 51: NS800 to NS814. DIP Switches 1-6: off,off,on,on,off,off

DIP Switches ON - push toward LEDs
DIP Switches OFF - push away from LEDs
--
Dave in Australia