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My original project was to combine two LE Panels, the Main railroad panel and the 5 track passenger station panel. Knowing there isn’t a quick way to join them, I proceeded to redraw the 5 track station onto the Main panel.?
Without realizing that the ?> Track Options > Automatically Assign Blocks to Tracks was turned on, every piece of track was assigned an AUTOBLK: ##, which I didn’t want nor need. I won’t need block detectors nor signaling. Any signals will be SSL to determine the turnout positions. Now I want to know how to remove block assignments from the newly drawn tracks since, as I see it, nothing can be deleted while they are assigned.?
I attempted to rename the unwanted blocks to a common name so when I could break the assignments I might only need to delete one large block. What I ended up with was, upon restarting JMRI everything opened properly the Main LE panel, The WiThrottle window, and the JMRI (center of screen) logo. The PanelPro control window did _not_. I didn’t have a way to close the program or make any preference changes.?
Since I put in so much work, so far, is there a fix to get JMRI to launch completely or is it easier to cut my losses and go back to a previous .xml file. Still how do I remove block assignments properly? I’m stumped. ?
Thanks in advance for reading.
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.4 - Java 17.0.12
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John,
I assume you have disabled auto block.
Edit each piece of track. ?Scroll the block list to the top and click on the blank entry. ?The old entry will be highlighted. ?Delete it. ? Click on Done.
Due to technical reasons, you need to store and load the xml file two times before you can delete the old entries from the Block table.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] How to remove block assignments from LE tracks
Date: Sunday, April 06, 2025 7:23 PM
My original project was to combine two LE Panels, the Main railroad panel and the 5 track passenger station panel. Knowing there isn’t a quick way to join them, I proceeded to redraw the 5 track station onto the Main panel.?
Without realizing that the ?> Track Options > Automatically Assign Blocks to Tracks was turned on, every piece of track was assigned an AUTOBLK: ##, which I didn’t want nor need. I won’t need block detectors nor signaling. Any signals will be SSL to determine the turnout positions. Now I want to know how to remove block assignments from the newly drawn tracks since, as I see it, nothing can be deleted while they are assigned.?
I attempted to rename the unwanted blocks to a common name so when I could break the assignments I might only need to delete one large block. What I ended up with was, upon restarting JMRI everything opened properly the Main LE panel, The WiThrottle window, and the JMRI (center of screen) logo. The PanelPro control window did _not_. I didn’t have a way to close the program or make any preference changes.?
Since I put in so much work, so far, is there a fix to get JMRI to launch completely or is it easier to cut my losses and go back to a previous .xml file. Still how do I remove block assignments properly? I’m stumped. ?
Thanks in advance for reading.
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4
- Java 17.0.12
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Dave S,
Yes, I have disabled the auto block when I realized the mess it made.?
I guess I don’t understand the difference between the block list and the block table but I’ll look it over and give it a try.?
Since the program doesn’t fully launch anymore, I may not be able to get into the list/tables. If not I’ll step back to the previous xml and start over.?
It’s a learning experience. Thanks.? John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX- JMRI 5.11.2, Java 17.0.12
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On Apr 6, 2025, at 10:19?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
? John,
I assume you have disabled auto block.
Edit each piece of track. ?Scroll the block list to the top and click on the blank entry. ?The old entry will be highlighted. ?Delete it. ? Click on Done.
Due to technical reasons, you need to store and load the xml file two times before you can delete the old entries from the Block table.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] How to remove block assignments from LE tracks
Date: Sunday, April 06, 2025 7:23 PM
My original project was to combine two LE Panels, the Main railroad panel and the 5 track passenger station panel. Knowing there isn’t a quick way to join them, I proceeded to redraw the 5 track station onto the Main panel.?
Without realizing that the ?> Track Options > Automatically Assign Blocks to Tracks was turned on, every piece of track was assigned an AUTOBLK: ##, which I didn’t want nor need. I won’t need block detectors nor signaling. Any signals will be SSL to determine the turnout positions. Now I want to know how to remove block assignments from the newly drawn tracks since, as I see it, nothing can be deleted while they are assigned.?
I attempted to rename the unwanted blocks to a common name so when I could break the assignments I might only need to delete one large block. What I ended up with was, upon restarting JMRI everything opened properly the Main LE panel, The WiThrottle window, and the JMRI (center of screen) logo. The PanelPro control window did _not_. I didn’t have a way to close the program or make any preference changes.?
Since I put in so much work, so far, is there a fix to get JMRI to launch completely or is it easier to cut my losses and go back to a previous .xml file. Still how do I remove block assignments properly? I’m stumped. ?
Thanks in advance for reading.
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4
- Java 17.0.12
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John,
The block list is shown in the track edit dialog.
I did some more testing. ?All you need to do remove the block name from the field and click on Done.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] How to remove block assignments from LE tracks
Date: Sunday, April 06, 2025 9:33 PM
Dave S,
Yes, I have disabled the auto block when I realized the mess it made.?
I guess I don’t understand the difference between the block list and the block table but I’ll look it over and give it a try.?
Since the program doesn’t fully launch anymore, I may not be able to get into the list/tables. If not I’ll step back to the previous xml and start over.?
It’s a learning experience. Thanks.?
John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.2, Java 17.0.12
On Apr 6, 2025, at 10:19?PM, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
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John,
I assume you have disabled auto block.
Edit each piece of track. ?Scroll the block list to the top and click on the blank entry. ?The old entry will be highlighted. ?Delete it. ? Click on Done.
Due to technical reasons, you need to store and load the xml file two times before you can delete the old entries from the Block table.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
Subject: [jmriusers] How to remove block assignments from LE tracks
Date: Sunday, April 06, 2025 7:23 PM
My original project was to combine two LE Panels, the Main railroad panel and the 5 track passenger station panel. Knowing there isn’t a quick way to join them, I proceeded to redraw the 5 track station onto the Main panel.?
Without realizing that the ?> Track Options > Automatically Assign Blocks to Tracks was turned on, every piece of track was assigned an AUTOBLK: ##, which I didn’t want nor need. I won’t need block detectors nor signaling. Any signals will be SSL to determine the turnout positions. Now I want to know how to remove block assignments from the newly drawn tracks since, as I see it, nothing can be deleted while they are assigned.?
I attempted to rename the unwanted blocks to a common name so when I could break the assignments I might only need to delete one large block. What I ended up with was, upon restarting JMRI everything opened properly the Main LE panel, The WiThrottle window, and the JMRI (center of screen) logo. The PanelPro control window did _not_. I didn’t have a way to close the program or make any preference changes.?
Since I put in so much work, so far, is there a fix to get JMRI to launch completely or is it easier to cut my losses and go back to a previous .xml file. Still how do I remove block assignments properly? I’m stumped. ?
Thanks in advance for reading.
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4
- Java 17.0.12
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On the block list, I found that you cannot just select the blank on that list.
You need to clear the field by deleting the characters, then click "done".
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.4 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
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Ken, ?I found that out too, that blank can not be selected but the characters need to be deleted instead. Then Done.? Dave,? Where I went wrong was in trying to do the List and the Table deletions all in one session.?
I’ll assume by creating those conflicts, ?is why PanelPro won’t fully launch. It’s hung trying to resolve missing information.?
For the sake of sanity I will step back one version to remove the blocks properly. Double the work but no hair pulling involved. Thanks again, guys. ? John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX- JMRI 5.11.4, Java 17.0.12
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On Apr 7, 2025, at 7:25?AM, Ken Heywood via groups.io <kheywood@...> wrote:
? On the block list, I found that you cannot just select the blank on that list.
You need to clear the field by deleting the characters, then click "done".
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.4 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
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Update. The block removal process was successful when using the correct techniques.?
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.4 - Java 17.0.12
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On Apr 7, 2025, at 9:46?AM, John Bauchiero via groups.io <john4dhmr@...> wrote:
Ken, ?I found that out too, that blank can not be selected but the characters need to be deleted instead. Then Done.? Dave,? Where I went wrong was in trying to do the List and the Table deletions all in one session.?
I’ll assume by creating those conflicts, ?is why PanelPro won’t fully launch. It’s hung trying to resolve missing information.?
For the sake of sanity I will step back one version to remove the blocks properly. Double the work but no hair pulling involved. Thanks again, guys. ? John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX- JMRI 5.11.4, Java 17.0.12 On Apr 7, 2025, at 7:25?AM, Ken Heywood via groups.io <kheywood@...> wrote:
? On the block list, I found that you cannot just select the blank on that list.
You need to clear the field by deleting the characters, then click "done".
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.4 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:
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