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RANCE THOMPSON
 

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I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson


 

After it is saved, then go through the roster, pick out the engine, and double click on the address. That should work.

Dave Hastings


On Friday, May 31, 2019, 09:06:16 AM EDT, RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:


I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson


 

Rance,

Are you saying you see the loco listed in the roster, but it won't open. Or
is it not showing up in the roster list?

Things to check. First Help->System Console, this will show any internal
errors happening when you try saving the entry. Second, Debug->Rebuild
Roster, this will rebuild the index of the locos in the roster directory.
Third, Help->File Locations, do the paths for everything, like the roster
make sense. Fourth, after you asked it to open the loco entry, check the tab
'Windows', does that show an entry for the loco? If that does, that says it
is open, but somewhere off your viewing screen. Depending on which type of
computer, there different magic keystrokes to get it back to where you could
see it.

See if any of these help you out.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


RANCE THOMPSON
 

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I do double click but it still won't open.

Rance


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Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:25 PM
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After it is saved, then go through the roster, pick out the engine, and double click on the address. That should work.

Dave Hastings


On Friday, May 31, 2019, 09:06:16 AM EDT, RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:


I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson


 

I sometimes have this problem getting the entry to open. Try d-clicking on the "Decoder Model" column. That always works for me.


On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 7:45 AM RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:
I do double click but it still won't open.

Rance


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Hastings via Groups.Io <dave_hastings=[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] question
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After it is saved, then go through the roster, pick out the engine, and double click on the address. That should work.

Dave Hastings


On Friday, May 31, 2019, 09:06:16 AM EDT, RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:


I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson



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RANCE THOMPSON
 

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It shows up, I can highlight it, but it won't open after the original entry whether I try program or edit. I will try your additional helps shortly as they are on my Win 7 computer.

Rance


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Cameron <kcameron@...>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] question
?
Rance,

Are you saying you see the loco listed in the roster, but it won't open. Or
is it not showing up in the roster list?

Things to check. First Help->System Console, this will show any internal
errors happening when you try saving the entry. Second, Debug->Rebuild
Roster, this will rebuild the index of the locos in the roster directory.
Third, Help->File Locations, do the paths for everything, like the roster
make sense. Fourth, after you asked it to open the loco entry, check the tab
'Windows', does that show an entry for the loco? If that does, that says it
is open, but somewhere off your viewing screen. Depending on which type of
computer, there different magic keystrokes to get it back to where you could
see it.

See if any of these help you out.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team











 

Rance,

Since you have Win7, if the 'Windows' tab shows it as open, go to the bar on
the desktop of open programs. It too should list the different panes within
JMRI that are open. Right click on the one of the loco and pick 'Maximize',
that should make it take your whole display. Then you should be able to grab
the corners and resize it to something that fits the display. Then close it.
That should keep that last size and location and use it next time you open
it. At least I think that's what I do, my fingers know the steps better than
my memory.

If this is the case, the last step is removing the file that retains all the
size and location details for everything in JMRI. It would then start with
the system defaults and that would work. But that is like a nuclear option,
you lose all record of every window within JMRI. The file is named
UserPrefsProfileConfig.xml but as I say, that is a last resort.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


RANCE THOMPSON
 

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Thank you?for the help. I have a Dr appointment shortly and will let you know later how thing went-- with JMRI.

Rance


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Cameron <kcameron@...>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] question
?
Rance,

Since you have Win7, if the 'Windows' tab shows it as open, go to the bar on
the desktop of open programs. It too should list the different panes within
JMRI that are open. Right click on the one of the loco and pick 'Maximize',
that should make it take your whole display. Then you should be able to grab
the corners and resize it to something that fits the display. Then close it.
That should keep that last size and location and use it next time you open
it. At least I think that's what I do, my fingers know the steps better than
my memory.

If this is the case, the last step is removing the file that retains all the
size and location details for everything in JMRI. It would then start with
the system defaults and that would work. But that is like a nuclear option,
you lose all record of every window within JMRI. The file is named
UserPrefsProfileConfig.xml but as I say, that is a last resort.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team











 

Rance,

? ? ?Take a photo of what you are trying to do and post in the 'Photos" section.? Maybe we can see something that way.

Roger


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I recently also came across this issue. Where you save the roster entry and try going back to open it by double clicking and it won’t open.?

If I closed DP, restart DP, it works fine. This has happened in the past week. No updates, nothing change. Using version 4.14


Dave

6 Plus

On May 31, 2019, at 10:30, Roger Merritt <merritt_roger@...> wrote:

Rance,

? ? ?Take a photo of what you are trying to do and post in the 'Photos" section.? Maybe we can see something that way.

Roger


 

If it is an ESU decoder, it can take a while to re open and may seem like it is not opening and then if you get ahead of the program and start punching other keys, you may abort its opening or lock up.? Other brands have less info to load so open up quicker.??
If it is not Esu, then ignore this post.

Tom Wilson

Colorado Springs, CO


On Fri, May 31, 2019, 7:06 AM RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:
I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson


Video7105
 

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Tsunami 2.......

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On May 31, 2019, at 11:09, Tom Wilson <thomasthetrainengine@...> wrote:

If it is an ESU decoder, it can take a while to re open and may seem like it is not opening and then if you get ahead of the program and start punching other keys, you may abort its opening or lock up.? Other brands have less info to load so open up quicker.??
If it is not Esu, then ignore this post.

Tom Wilson

Colorado Springs, CO

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 7:06 AM RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...> wrote:
I am using JMRI 4.14. After I enter an engine and save it, I can't get it to to reopen in order to make changes. I have tried everything But it still won't reopen. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
Thanks

Rance Thompson


 

I have also noticed this several versions back, I figured that it is a quirk of
either JMRI or JAVA, I can live with it now that I know about it.

John

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Video7105 <video7105@...>
Date: May 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM


I recently also came across this issue. Where you save the roster entry and
try going back to open it by double clicking and it won’t open.

If I closed DP, restart DP, it works fine. This has happened in the past week.
No updates, nothing change. Using version 4.14


Dave

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

On May 31, 2019, at 10:30, Roger Merritt <merritt_roger@...>
wrote:

Rance,

Take a photo of what you are trying to do and post in the 'Photos"
section. Maybe we can see something that way.

Roger


RANCE THOMPSON
 

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Ken
I could not find System Console or Debug. Windows showed it is open. I got frustrated and deleted ver.4.14+Rd060eOb then installed ver 3.1. I was still not able to get either engine to open. This is a HP desktop running Win 7 Professional and connected to the track with a Sprog.ver 1.8.
I have JMRI running on my Win 10 laptop, but wanted to use the other one also.

Rance


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of RANCE THOMPSON <thompsonrance@...>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] question
?
It shows up, I can highlight it, but it won't open after the original entry whether I try program or edit. I will try your additional helps shortly as they are on my Win 7 computer.

Rance


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Cameron <kcameron@...>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] question
?
Rance,

Are you saying you see the loco listed in the roster, but it won't open. Or
is it not showing up in the roster list?

Things to check. First Help->System Console, this will show any internal
errors happening when you try saving the entry. Second, Debug->Rebuild
Roster, this will rebuild the index of the locos in the roster directory.
Third, Help->File Locations, do the paths for everything, like the roster
make sense. Fourth, after you asked it to open the loco entry, check the tab
'Windows', does that show an entry for the loco? If that does, that says it
is open, but somewhere off your viewing screen. Depending on which type of
computer, there different magic keystrokes to get it back to where you could
see it.

See if any of these help you out.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team











 

There are three ways (I know of) to open a roster entry. So for those having
a problem with opening, try each of these and report which worked and which
didn't.

1. Click on an entry in the roster. The click the radio button for
'Programming Track, Programming on the Main, Edit Only' for the mode you
want. Then click the big 'Programming' button in the lower right of the
pane.

2. Right click on an entry in the roster. In the pop-up pick the 'Programmer
Type' for the mode you want. Then in the pop-up click 'Program'.

3. Double click on an entry in the roster, but only in the fields: DCC
Address, Icon, Decoder Model, or Date Modified. There had been a change to
make those other fields editable and that disabled the double click on those
other fields.


-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


 

JMRI 14.4. Mac OS 10.14.5 Mojave. I find that you cannot open a roster entry by double-clicking just anywhere along the entry's row. With the row selected by single-click in any column, the entry can only be opened by double clicking in DCC Address, Icon, Decoder Model or Date Modified columns. Double-clicking on any other column opens the displayed text for editing. If you start without selecting an entry with a single click I find I can open an entry by double-clicking any column but you have to be very fast and some columns are more sensitive than others to the double-click speed. It seems like the ckick/double-click behaviour varies between columns.

Jan


 

Rance,

Changing versions almost never helps and frequently can make matters worse.
Stick with 4.14.

I may have noticed something about which field you double click matters.
Some of the fields can be edited from the roster view. Those fields don't
support double click.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


 

Jan,

You spotted the same thing I noticed about which fields can double click.
I'm waiting to hear from effected people to see if that's the issue they are
having.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


 

I ha e see? this happen when I don't close DP before putting my PC in sleep mode, when it comes back up the? e t day I have problems with opening or making changes to locos untill I close everything in DP and restart? DP. Just saying!

Charlie Aselin

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This single click/double click idiosyncrasy I, personnally,? find annoying. I do not see the need for it. Plus the fact the field could be edited accidentally and the change saved to roster non-intentionally.
Me too. The convenience of being able to edit certain fields directly from the roster panel seems to have been added at the expense of making access to individual locos more difficult, confusing and accident-prone.

Jan