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Locked Engine Driver 2.20.56


 

A club member just updated his Engine Driver to version 2.20.56 by auto update. When he opens the app, it connects to our JMRI as usual and shows in the WiThrottle Server window as attached. BUT, very quickly, a notice that Engine Driver has shut down appears on his screen. Another club member's version 2.12 and my version 2.18 are still working fine. Any ideas what may have happened to 2.20.56? Bad update install? Bug in this version? Bad phone? Suggestions for moving forward will be appreciated.

Mark Granville
Silk City Model Railroad Club
Manchester, CT


 

Hi Mark, hopefully you are referring to 2.20.59. I see a series of crash reports from a single device yesterday. Looks like a hardware issue with the tone generator. We're looking into it. The fix will be first available as a Beta, so if you could get your friend to join the Beta program, that would be very helpful.


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 12:02 PM Mark Granville <mfgranville@...> wrote:
A club member just updated his Engine Driver to version 2.20.56 by auto update. When he opens the app, it connects to our JMRI as usual and shows in the WiThrottle Server window as attached. BUT, very quickly, a notice that Engine Driver has shut down appears on his screen. Another club member's version 2.12 and my version 2.18 are still working fine. Any ideas what may have happened to 2.20.56? Bad update install? Bug in this version? Bad phone? Suggestions for moving forward will be appreciated.

Mark Granville
Silk City Model Railroad Club
Manchester, CT


 

Mark,
I have been looking at the bug report and so far can't see what the problem might be.

It is a bit of a stretch, but can I ask that you get your friend to clear the data for the app then try opening ED again.
Phone Settings -> Apps -> Engine Driver -> Storage -> Clear Data

This one is really unlikely, but can you also check that that app permissions are correct
Phone Settings -> Apps -> Engine Driver -> Permissions? ? -? Camera, Storage and Telephone should be enabled.

Peter
(Brisbane Australia)


 

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Steve and Peter – thanks for the suggestions, will try them. Yes, I mistyped and meant 2.20.59. The problem may be a little strange. I tried Engine Driver 2.20.59 (on Tablet) at the club and it did not suffer the shut-down behavior, however, none of the locos would respond to the throttle after acquiring the loco address. I tried Engine Driver 2.18 (on phone) and 2.20.59 (on Tablet) at home and both worked fine. Both club and home computers are Windows 7 Pro running JMRI 4.12. Two differences that come to mind are:

1.?????? Club computer is interfaced to Digitrax DCS200 using RR-Circuits LocoBuffer-USB. Home computer is interfaced to NCE PowerHouse using Keyspan USB-Serial.

2.?????? Club computer was upgraded to JMRI 4.12 from 4.8. Home computer was upgraded from 4.10.

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Mark Granville


 

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Steve and Peter – One more data point on the “problem”. Another club member is a WiThrottle (Apple) user rather than Engine Driver (Android). He says he has WiThrottle version 2.20 and was using it without problems while the club computer was JMRI version 2.8. Since upgrading to 2.12, his WiThrottle has stopped working.

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Mark Granville


 

Peter is looking into the EngineDriver crash.

This new issue with the upgrade to JMRI sounds like the well-known "Defaults" issue. Go into Preferences, Defaults, and make sure you have everything checked as Loconet, not Internal.


 

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Steve – good thought. I am going into the club for further tests to be sure I have all the facts. I think I’ll find all the Preference settings to be OK since ED v2.15 and ED v2.18 still seem to be working.

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Mark Granville

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Re: Engine Driver 2.20.56

From: Steve Todd

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 09:37:17 PDT

Peter is looking into the EngineDriver crash.

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This new issue with the upgrade to JMRI sounds like the well-known "Defaults" issue. Go into Preferences, Defaults, and make sure you have everything checked as Loconet, not Internal.

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Steve:

If you need additional testers for your Beta program I offer my time to do so.

Bob M


 

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Might be chasing ghosts. I loaded Engine Driver 2.20.59 onto my smart phone and tablet. Both performed without incident at the club today. At this point, I suspect either a bad install on the member’s Android phone or maybe a transient glitch on the club computer last Thursday. We should have tried rebooting the computer. Let’s see what the story is next Thursday when the club reconvenes.

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All the JMRI Preference Defaults and other settings were OK.

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Mark Granville

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From: Mark Granville [mailto:mfgranville@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 4:58 PM
To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Engine Driver 2.20.56

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Steve – good thought. I am going into the club for further tests to be sure I have all the facts. I think I’ll find all the Preference settings to be OK since ED v2.15 and ED v2.18 still seem to be working.

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Mark Granville

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Re: Engine Driver 2.20.56

From: Steve Todd

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 09:37:17 PDT

Peter is looking into the EngineDriver crash.

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This new issue with the upgrade to JMRI sounds like the well-known "Defaults" issue. Go into Preferences, Defaults, and make sure you have everything checked as Loconet, not Internal.

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Thanks, Bob M,
I have a link to join the Beta program on this page:?
At the moment, there is no Beta version, as Peter is still chasing the crash reported by Mark. As soon as there is a fix, it will be published as a Beta and you will get the update notification (or automatic update, depending on your phone settings).
All feedback and testing is very much appreciated.
--SteveT


 

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Might be chasing ghosts. I loaded Engine Driver 2.20.59 onto my smart phone and tablet. Both performed without incident at the club today. At this point, I suspect either a bad install on the member’s Android phone or maybe a transient glitch on the club computer last Thursday. We should have tried rebooting the computer. I’ll let you know what the story is next Thursday when the club reconvenes.

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All the JMRI Preference Defaults and other settings were OK.

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Mark Granville

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Mark,
Peter's fix to prevent the ToneGenerator crash is in the Beta version (2.21.61) that I release just now. Hopefully that is the problem your club member was experiencing.
--SteveT


 

Oh, the icon has changed. Nice

Dave


 

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How does one update the ED app on phones?

I have several dumb phone used just for ED no cell service?

Kurt


On Aug 1, 2018, at 9:25 PM, Dave Lowe <dlowe30971@...> wrote:

Oh, the icon has changed. Nice

Dave


 

Dave,
Yes, Peter has been working on a more modern look for the icons.?
--SteveT


 

Kurt,
If you installed the app from the Play Store, you should get a notification from your Play Store app that an update is available. If you allow Automatic Updates, it should update automatically. In both cases, you need to be connected to the Internet via wifi (no cell service needed). If your normal wifi network doesn't provide a path to the internet, you can connect at a public spot such as a restaurant or retail store. I recommend Chick-Fil-A. :)

If you installed from the EngineDriver web site, I'd suggest you uninstall it, then use the Play Store app to install it from the Play Store (see above).

Regards,
? SteveT


 

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Steve – OK. I’ll be at the museum today and we will see what happens.

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Mark


 

Steve and Peter - At this point it seems that the original reported problem was a ghost. I had the club member uninstall Engine Driver v2.20.59 and then do a clean install. The reported problem disappeared. Two possibilities: (1) the first install was bad; (2) there was a computer fart last Thursday which was resolved when the computer was shut down and rebooted. I tend toward #2 because another member who uses WiThrottle v2.20 also had problems last Thursday did not have a problem today and he did not reinstall WiThrottle.

I might have saved Peter a bit of trouble if I had thought to reboot the computer last Thursday. Then again, maybe not. Why were Engine Driver v2.15 and v2.18 working last Thursday? Who knows. If these computer farts were easy to deal with, we would all be programmers!

Thanks for your attention to my first report. Let's hope it doesn't reappear.

Mark Granville


 

Mark, thanks for the update.
The problem Peter fixed was a real crash, reported automatically to the Play Store. So even if that wasn't your guy, he fixed a problem for someone. That's always a good thing.
--SteveT