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Dave S. I see, missed the IT triggering the routes.
Walt

Bill I recently had a similar issue. I upgraded from 10.3 to the latest
release version of JMRI. During the loading of data process I had one exe
file that wouldn't load (Later found that this was rejected by my Virus
protection). I skipped that exe file and continued to load the rest of the
JMRI data. Once loaded I opened JMRI and went to Ops/train build to build
some trains for an upcoming operations session. The build process had the
same issues as you are experiencing.
After some very helpful information from people on the JMRI Yahoo group I
was able to establish that I had to turn my virus protection off
temporarily and reload the latest version of JMRI. This was done and
everything now seems to work correctly.
Duncan


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Bill Rooke wwrooke39@...
[jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Tonight I tried to set up a switc list. Using the trains portion of
operations, I was able to build two or three trains then the program
crashed. I finally was able to get my trins sorted by sorting two, saving
(crash) sort two more -save (crash etc. the error messages were varied
sometime "runrecgnizable erro program will close" some times a Java message
and sometime "trian XX needs to bebuilt" but the build buton had been
cllicked. That error repeated sever times. Version 4.10 running on
Windows 10. Anybody any ideas. this was the first time I tried to run the
program using version 4.10 - Bill

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Walter,

Ignore the panel trackage and turnouts.

Open the turnout table and sort by system name.

The five buttons at the bottom of the panel are IT turnouts. Clicking on one sets it closed and the remaining 4 to thrown. This is handled by the Logix.

The Routes are also triggered by an IT going closed. That sets the turnout ladder based on which trigger was selected. These turnouts are not on the panel so you have to watch the turnout table to see the results.

Dave Sand

Hi Dave
This is esumner1 I’m having the same problems as Gordie. I have tried your procedure but it does not work because the USB will not communicate with the computer. The cables are fine the driver is correct but it still will not show on computer. I have changed all settings . There is no evidence in console or terminal.
The NCE engineer thinks problem is in settings combinations in network with interface. What I can’t understand is why the interface worked on old computer and not on this one.
esumner1

On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:02 AM, Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

If the USB tab in the Apple System Information report does not show a "CP2012 USB to UART Bridge Controller anywhere in the list (click arrows to open up all Buses and Hubs) AND you have done a File->Refresh Information (?R) and tried multiple ports on multiple computers and multiple cables you may have an NCE USB problem.

Please select the USB tab in the Apple System Information report and Print->PDF-Save as PDF, then either email the PDF file to me directly or upload it to a folder with your name inside Problems Being Worked On in the Files Area of this group.

Email attachments are stripped from posts, but if you are reading and replying using Mail on your Mac, you can cc: to me so I get the attachment.

If using the web interface, there is a way to do it but it is a bit obscure.. You click on the down chevrons beside Subject: in your reply window, then the down-arrow beside To:

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On 14 Mar 2018, at 12:46 PM, John Connelly gordie@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

i have changes usb cables and tried a my lap top the usb tab did not see the usb interface so i have to assume that the interface is not working and needs to be returned what are your thoughts

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The 1954 rules are broadly similar to the 1968 rules apart from the new indication for rule 288 on high masts with the bottom flashing yellow (to make slow approach displayable on a high mast).



There are a few differences between the reading system and NS-2008 that make it quite hard to just adapt:-


1. Head position on the mast makes a difference - heads are normally on the right of the mast but permissive masts with a number plate (that have a most restricted aspect of stop and proceed) have the middle head on the left of the mast.


2. The 'distant' mast (mast G in the rulebooks) has no equivalent in NS-2008.


3. Rule 285A is an aspect not in the NS-2008 aspect table.


4. No staggered head or 'cat face' icons in NS-2008.


There are some staggered head and right of mast icons in the CROR system that might form the basis of Reading icons, and under smallschematics in the resources there are some RDG_Catface_Signals which may be of use when creating icons.


Suzie x

Scott: Confused here are what you are trying to do, None of your routes are triggered by anything, Your logix's Throw and Close Internal turnouts. The Turnouts on tour panel are Sprog turnout, not Internal. Your panel file does not have the legs of the turnouts connected to anything.


Walt

Hi Jay, The fix I am referring to is where the filter was broken, and the user was unable to mark turnouts to "Include" in the WiThrottle download.

SteveT

See below:

On 14 Mar 2018, at 10:22 PM, Harold Thompson haroldthompson157@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

The updating chip for my NCE SB3a arrived and has been installed. Pro Cab now shows v1.65b of the software is installed.

An SB3a with V1.65B is identical to an SB5 as far as firmware and software are concerned.

There is no longer a problem in JMRI finding COM3 port but there is also no change in Panel Pro's reacion to my shuttle script - ie running the script starts up the train, puts on the lights, sounds the horn, changes the turnouts, and sets the train off. There is however no reaction as the train passes sensors 2,3 and 4. At that point I have to stop the train with the ProCab as the next set of points has not changed.
Before I decided to try a shuttle, I had jumpers 2 & 4 on the NCE interface attached and that is how they were when I first tried the shuttle this morning after updating the SB3a. I have just tried adding jumper 3 with no change in effect.

Your settings for jumpers and JMRI are not correct.

When I power up the layout before staring JMRI, everything appears normal and the LEDs on the AIU01 all light up for a few seconds before switching off.; the LED on the interface lights up and remains on.

If the USB side LED on the NCE USB remains on, it simply indicates JMRI is busy trying to talk to your SB5.

If the Cab Bus side LED on the NCE USB remains on, it indicates the NCE USB has locked up trying to talk to your SB5.

When I start Panel Pro, all seems normal; there is an initial flash of the LEDs on the interface during opening and then they remain out. When the panel opens all seems well and the state of all sensors is "Unknown". As soon as I click on one of them to change its state, both LEDs on the interface start to flash rapidly and continue to do so until I quit the program.

That indicates JMRI is talking to the SB5 fine and most likely asking for AIU xx status so the problem is elsewhere.

Have you tried a "Show Cabs" under the NCE Menu to see if your AIU is being seen by the SB5 and at what address?

Once you have determined the cab address of the AIU from "Show Cabs", use the "NCE Command Monitor" to see if that matches the AIU address JMRI is interrogating. You will see the interrogation messages in the Command Monitor.

Note that the SB5 does not return a failure message for a non-existent (or incorrectly addressed) AIU. It simply always returns a status of 00 00.

The System Console shows the following:
"2018-03-14 12:08:07,321 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2018-03-14 12:08:07,368 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file:C:&#92;Users&#92;Harold&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;messages.log [main]

2018-03-14 12:08:07,383 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file:C:&#92;Users&#92;Harold&#92;JMRI&#92;log&#92;session.log [main]

2018-03-14 12:08:07,415 apps.Apps INFO - PanelPro version 4.11.3+R80b3ab3 starts under Java 1.8.0_161 onWindows 10 amd64 v10.0 at Wed Mar 14 12:08:07 UTC 2018 [main]

2018-03-14 12:08:08,368 apps.Apps INFO - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f768836[main]

2018-03-14 12:08:09,415 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-3CF862775D9E-3f768836 as theJMRI Node identity [main]

2018-03-14 12:08:09,727 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXmlINFO - Starting to connect for"NCE" [main]

2018-03-14 12:08:10,600 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter INFO - NCE USB COM3 port opened at 19200 baud[main]

2018-03-14 12:08:10,788 nce.NceConnectionStatus INFO - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.7[AWT-EventQueue-0]

While this configuration seems to be working OK, it is not optimum and will be telling you that program track mode is available, which it is not.

SB5 Instructions
============
The correct settings for an SB5 and an NCE USB V7 are:
- USB Jumper 4 on. All others off (or at least 2 & 3. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection: NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever is appropriate for your system>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: SB5
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 19200.

The JMRI console log should then report V7.3.1.

Dave in Australia

Hi! I downloaded & installed the latest Jenkins build & WiThrottle is still ordering them wrong.
1 -10 100 -......
Jay

Dave,

I have placed xml file in Layout editor text label problem <> together with the system console content.

Tim

On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:29, Dave Sand dave@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Tim,

I am not able to re-create your problem. Are you getting any messages in the system console ( Help >> System Console )?

If possible, upload the panel xml file to the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn folder.

Dave Sand

On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:38 PM, tim.williams11@... <mailto:tim.williams11@...> [jmriusers] <jmriusers@... <mailto:jmriusers@...>> wrote:

I am using JMRI v4.10 with Java 1.8.0_161 and Windows 10 (64bit). I have a panel in layout editor which I have been developing for the last 4 years and I have not encountered any issues I could not solve relatively quickly - until now.


I was doing some tidying up on the panel and using text labels with coloured backgrounds to represent platforms and significant buildings (goods sheds). However, when I apply background colours, borders and margins and save the altered panel, after a subsequent restart of the system the text will be present in the correct font, size and colour but the background colour, border and margin will have been lost. Can anyone suggest what is happening or what I am doing wrong?


Tim

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for that.. I've deleted it, it cannot be helping things.


The CPU is fairly static at about 15%. I've the little monitor running in the sys tray.


Scott

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Scott,

I was wrong. It was the missing background image that broke Logix during my testing. It would still be useful to delete the unused “SYS" Logix.

You might try the 4.11.3 test release. Since your are running on a Pi, you should also watch the CPU and memory utilization at the OS level.

Dave Sand

Scott,

At one time, you had created a "Fiddle Yard" sensor group. This creates a special Logix called SYS which implements the radio button selector actions.

At some point, you replaced the sensor group with turnouts acting as sensors and implemented your own Logix to mimic the sensor group actions.

When the sensors were deleted, that left behind the SYS Logix which now creates an error during panel loading.

2018-03-14 10:45:09,186 igurexml.DefaultConditionalManagerXml WARN - No state variables found for conditional SYS_SGC_FIDDLE YARD [AWT-EventQueue-0]

This error interrupts Logix initialization which means that Logix “Fiddle Yard !” is not active. The turnouts on the layout still throw because the Route definitions are independent.

The solution is to delete the SYS Logix from the Logix Table.

Dave Sand

This is also my understanding. Walthers are just mentioning that they are using SoundTraxx without any rebranding.So something like "Tsunami Diesel Walthers Mainline OEM" would be more appropriate - to distinguish from the older family "Tsunami Diesel Walthers OEM"; ?Alain LM

Hi Walt..

Should just be the file BranchSchematic.jpg, as you say in the resources folder. It's just the background that I've used to place the points onto. Quite simple image really.


Cheers,


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Are these definitions not mislabeled?

Sound Value are Bachmann OEM decoders from Soundtraxx. There is no mention of 'Sound Value' for Walthers locomotives on the Soundtraxx website that I saw.

Peter