Rummy,

Make sure that “Options >> Allow Layout Control” is checked.

If that looks OK, upload the panel xml file.

Dave Sand

On the panel I created in PanelPro to represent the current state of my layout, clicking on the turnouts on the panel will operate the turnouts in the closed direction only. ?However, clicking on them to throw the turnouts has no effect. ?Operating the turnouts using the turnout table, a few LRoutes I have created, or by the turnout control dialog box work great in both directions, close and throw. ?In all cases, the panel shows the correct state of the turnout (closed or thrown), the physical turnout also operates (closed or thrown) as directed, and the state in the turnout table shows the correct state. ?But using the panel only works when closing the turnouts - this applies to all 11 of the turnouts I currently have installed. ?When the turnout is closed, clicking on it, which should throw the turnout, has no effect on the panel, the turnout table, or the layout. ?Any suggestions or ideas?

I haven't uploaded the configuration file yet, but I can if need be.

Thanks in advance,
Rummy

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Dear Tony,

I too have encountered issues with the Broadway Limited units. One Paragon2 PA1 in particular will not reset from it's 03 default. I have come across mention of "Blast Programming" (see below) by Digitrax, for decoders that "Require more current," but this looks like it will only work with the Zephyr series.
I'd like to know more about the PTB100 track Booster.

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Robert Diepenbrock

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I am in the process of trying to test JMRI's automation capabilities using a small testing layout in (UK) N gauge especially built for this test. The layout consists of a straight topped and bottomed oval of track with loops on the straight parts and a siding at the ends of one of the loops.

I have been testing JMRI against the demonstration versions of Traincontroller Gold and iTrain, but find those unsatisfactory for several reasons (using Traincontroller Gold is like trying to control a model railway with Microsoft PowerPoint and it only runs on Windows whereas I should like my train control computer to run Linux; iTrain's demonstration version does not allow me to use train routes, which I would need to test thoroughly before considering paying money for it; and neither allow the use of MERG hardware which would be a good thing to be able to use on the layouts that I am planning, if I find that RailCom, which the MERG hardware does not yet support, is not necessary).

At this juncture, I am representing the layout in JMRI as just a plain loop consisting of the outer sections with no turnouts (I had not realised the necessity when wiring the layout to have each turnout in its own block, and so the turnouts are in the same block as the track following on from the nose part of the turnout, which prevents me from setting up signal mast logic properly; attempting to rectify this by putting the turnouts in their own blocks in JMRI but not connecting these to any sensor on the layout resulted in automatic trains never stopping and a null reference exception being recorded in the system console). The plan in due course is to use this layout to test JMRI's ability to automate operations involving a locomotive hauling a train into a loop, uncoupling, another locomotive coupling up to the train from the siding and then hauling the original train back around the other way into the loop on the other side of the layout.

That plain loop of track as represented in JMRI at this stage of testing has four sections: upper, right curve, lower and left curve. At the boundary of each of these sections is a virtual signal mast, comprising one three aspect signal head in the BR 2003 specification. The signals are set for clockwise operation only. I have set up several transits, two of which in particular I use for testing purposes: one is a full circle from rear back to rear, and another is a full circle from front back to front.

Using those transits, I can get two trains to navigate the circle automatically in the same direction without crashing into one another. However, there are some significant anomalies which are not consistent with the documentation or from what I understand of the interface.

Firstly, the speed at which the trains travel appears to bear no relation to the "default maximum speed" setting specified in the "Activate new train" dialogue. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on the speed of the train, which appears to accelerate to a high speed in some cases. The ramp rate setting seems to work well, however. I should note that both of the locomotives have speed profiles defined and I have selected "use speed profile" and "stop by speed profile" for both active trains. Also, all the sections have defined lengths based on my measurements of the track.

Secondly, the behaviour is inconsistent between runs. I carried out the following test: I set up one train in the rear section and one in the front, then created active trains and assigned the train in the rear section to the transit from rear to rear and the train in the front section to the transit from front to front and ran them. This first run produced acceptable results: the rear train set off slowly and then advanced slowly into the right curve section, slowing as it approached the (virtual) signal protecting the section where the front train was waiting to go; the front train then set off when I set it up and advanced into the left curve section and both precoded at a moderate pace around the layout, slowing down if they were about to get to a (virtual) signal showing danger, until both were back in their original sections. The trains, on entering their stopping sections, slowed down gently and stopped near the middle or end of those sections. On the second run, I removed one of the trains and restarted the other. This time, the train sped up to a very high speed, and failed to stop, looping continuously until I terminated the train. However, after about two loops, it slowed down to a much more moderate pace, wherein it remained until I terminated the active train to which it had been reassigned. For the third test, I left the second train removed from the track and created a new active train from the first, with exactly the same settings as before. This time, it accelerated to a high speed, went around the circuit once, but stopped suddenly immediately on entering the final section, rather than stopping smoothly as in the first run, seeming to ignore the "stop by speed profile" command.

I should note that I have been able to use the Zimo distance controlled stopping to prevent this sudden stop, but this is not very satisfactory compared to the built in stop by speed profile system, as this requires that the stopping point be always a fixed distance from the stopping sensor, which is not workable with different lengths of trains as I plan to have on my actual layout (as opposed to this small test layout).

For reference, the system console output shows some errors and warnings the meaning for which I cannot find anywhere in the documentation (or anywhere on the internet so far as search engines are concerned). The full output from my latest session is as follows:

2018-07-29 17:57:25,125 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:25,139 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\James\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:25,140 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\James\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:25,148 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_171 on Windows 7 amd64 v6.1 at Sun Jul 29 17:57:25 BST 2018 [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:26,549 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile Automation_test_layout.3f6acf02 [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:26,704 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-dG1h9cpHGhNiaahg7KpNdQ-3f6acf02 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 17:57:26,842 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "LocoNet" [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,237 locobufferusb.LocoBufferUsbAdapter??? INFO? - LocoBuffer-USB adapter set hardware flow control, mode=2 RTSCTS_OUT=2 RTSCTS_IN=1 [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,238 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter????????? INFO? - COM8 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: true [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,302 loconet.LnPacketizer????????????????? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,690 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,690 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\James\JMRI\Automation_test_layout\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,691 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\James\JMRI\Automation_test_layout\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,691 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\James\JMRI\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,691 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\James\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:27,691 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2018-07-29 17:57:28,868 PanelPro.PanelPro???????????????????? INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2018-07-29 17:59:26,819 dispatcher.AutoTrainsFrame??????????? INFO? - No Throttle[47715 "Haymarket"/IZ5(Full circle from front)] [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 17:59:26,896 loconet.LnThrottleManager???????????? WARN? - slot 1 address 4715 is already in-use. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:01:50,566 dispatcher.AutoTrainsFrame??????????? INFO? - No Throttle[47715 "Haymarket"/IZ5(Full circle from front)] [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:02:11,735 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? WARN? - Throttle destroyed before zero length[-42.03595] remaining. [Auto Engineer 4715]
2018-07-29 18:03:16,514 dispatcher.AutoTrainsFrame??????????? INFO? - No Throttle[47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:23,205 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? WARN? - count of 2 ACTIVE neightbors with proper direction can't be handled for block Right curve but maybe it can be determined when another block becomes free [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:23,205 dispatcher.AutoActiveTrain??????????? WARN? - Stopping train [47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] in section [IY:AUTO:0002(Right)], as next section [Front] is not allocated [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:23,294 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4573]
2018-07-29 18:03:25,337 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? INFO? - Block Right curve gets LATE new value from Rear loop, direction= East [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:39,458 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? WARN? - count of 2 ACTIVE neightbors with proper direction can't be handled for block Front loop but maybe it can be determined when another block becomes free [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:39,458 dispatcher.AutoActiveTrain??????????? WARN? - Stopping train [47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] in section [IY:AUTO:0003(Front)], as next section [Left] is not allocated [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:39,489 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4573]
2018-07-29 18:03:40,978 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? INFO? - Block Front loop gets LATE new value from Right curve, direction= West [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:48,133 dispatcher.AutoActiveTrain??????????? WARN? - Stopping train [47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] in section [IY:AUTO:0004(Left)], as next section [Rear] is not allocated [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:48,139 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4573]
2018-07-29 18:03:48,663 dispatcher.AutoActiveTrain??????????? WARN? - Stopping train [47715 "Haymarket"/IZ5(Full circle from front)] in section [IY:AUTO:0002(Right)], as next section [Front] is not allocated [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:48,715 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4715]
2018-07-29 18:03:57,008 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? WARN? - count of 2 ACTIVE neightbors with proper direction can't be handled for block Rear loop but maybe it can be determined when another block becomes free [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:57,092 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4573]
2018-07-29 18:03:58,536 jmri.Block??????????????????????????? INFO? - Block Rear loop gets LATE new value from Left curve, direction= East [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:03:59,479 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? ERROR - Speed not available to compute distance travelled [Auto Engineer 4715]
2018-07-29 18:04:33,321 dispatcher.AutoActiveTrain??????????? WARN? - Stopping train [47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] in section [IY:AUTO:0002(Right)], as next section [Front] is not allocated [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:05:43,435 dispatcher.AutoTrainsFrame??????????? INFO? - No Throttle[47573 "The London STANDARD"/IZ6(Full circle from rear)] [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-07-29 18:06:01,880 roster.RosterSpeedProfile???????????? WARN? - Throttle destroyed before zero length[63.1073] remaining. [Auto Engineer 4573]

For reference, I should note that I am using a Digikeijs DR5000 command station together with a DR5088RC feedback module. I am connecting to JMRI via USB using the Loco Net interface.

I should note that I have also experienced some other inconsistent behaviour, but I thought that it would be more efficient at present to confine the query/report to these core issues as the fix for these might also prevent the other issues from arising.

Thank you in advance for any assistance, which would be much appreciated.

Tony,

The help section is a good place to start. On the "Trains" page and edit
train, one can designate the Railroad and Engine Type for that train.

Tony

That will be all part of your JMRI Operations set-up. You can have a particular type of engine assigned to a particular train. But, you do NOT have to have JMRI assign an engine. My suggestion is if you DO want JMRI to assign engines to trains, get your trains working before you start using this feature. Nothing wrong with the feature but don't add all the bells and whistles at once, and this is one that can wait.

Jim

Jeff,

Do the Route system names start with numeric characters? If so, you will need to carefully edit the panel xml file and add the IR prefix to each system name entry.

Dave Sand

i am attempting to fix an issue with a friends jrmi withrottle setup.

Running on a MacBook Pro High Sierra v10.13.6. ??

if I run jrmi 4.10 I can see routes and am able to set them via the laptop , but withrottle will not connect to any of three Apple ?devices?

if if I run jrmi 4.12 I cannot see any routes in the route table on the laptop, ?but withrottle works fine (apart from being unable to set routes). I am able to set individual points via withrottle. ?

Would some be kind enough to give me some pointers

Thanks. ?Jeff

thank you
that solves the car problem but how does the program assign the correct engine such as sp daylite engine to the sp daylite set of cars

tony

I suggest you start by reading the 'Help' files that are included with in JMRI download and are on the the JMRI website.



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Brilliant! After upgrading to 4.12 I don't get error messages and Ican delete unneeded turnouts and signal heads.?
Thanks for that. I'm still having turntable issues.
Essentially, I can't get the turntable turnouts of any previously selected ray to revert when a new ray is selected.?
It's quite possible I haven't set it up correctly the window help is unclear and for a previous version. This is what I did in the order I did it.:

1. [edit layout panel] inserted default turntable
   (actually I had a non DCC turntable which I deleted and replaced with a DCC one ensuring the track lines were connected correctly
2. [turnout table] utilised and renamed 2 existing and created 2 new turnouts (all DCC++} and set to "closed"
   user names: Turntable 1 (17), Turntable 2 (19), Turntable 3 (23)? & Turntable 4 (24).
   sys names:? DCCPPT1017, DCCPPT1019, DCCPPT1023 & DCCPPT1024,
3. [Edit Turnout] set turnout feedback to BSOUTPUT on all 4 with 1 attempt (no repeat attempts)
4. [DCC++ configure base station ] set unique Arduino output pin to on DCC++ base to system address for each turnout?
   ?1017 to I/O38, 1019 to I/O42, 1023 to I/O50 & 1024 to I/O52. (not sequential due to hardware wiring).?
5. [edit layout panel] [Edit Turntable] selected? these 4 turnouts from drop-down box to? turntable rays. Set state = "thrown".
6. [layout panel] clicking ray 0? causes the turntable icon to animate as expected, - diameter line rotates to clicked ray point
   turnout "Turntable1"? state changes from "closed" to "thrown" IO pin activates (confirmed by LED at present)?
7. Clicking ray 1? causes Turntable2 to change from "closed" to "thrown" but "Tturntable1" remains "thrown"? LED for Turntable1 remains lit
8. Clicking rays 2 & 3 do the same thing. Each turnout is thrown and remains thrown.?
9. Clicking ray 0 will animate icon but Turntable 1 remains thrown. I can set it to closed from the turnout table but not from the icon.?

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This should be a pic. - I've never tried this before.
I have tried setting up routes to close? turnouts on remaining 3 rays if any individual ray is clicked, but this just rotates the turntable icon.
?
Any ideas?
Thanks in anticipation.

are passenger cars included in the cars database and engines used only to run passenger trains included in the engines database.

is each individual car included as a separate item or the set listed as one item.

are they all listed as a single type or different,such as coach, dinner,observation,etc.

if so how does the jmri program create a correct train with all the cars of a single train with its correct engine.

is this not done or is there some trick needed to accomlish the task

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Thomas

It sounds as though the earth connection has come off the command station and static is jumbling the memory. Do a full reset on the command station - with power off, hold down the enter key, power on and hold the key down until reset is complete, then release the enter key.

Gerry

Our club PC with JMRI is connected to an EasyDCC system. Been working fine for years.
However, or last several operating sessions, the system has gone nuts. Loks moving and reversing without operator action, Engine Driver dropping Loks, dropping connections, etc.

Rebooting the computer seems to help, but what is the throttle limit for Easy DCC run through JMRI interface? Is there a hard number?
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

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Thomas,

If you are on Windows, open a command window and use the command:

Ipconfig

That will list each possible connection interface and what, if any, address
is associated with each. If that is showing multiple addresses, then it is a
windows thing and WiThrottle is just using what it is told it has available.
Now how come it may have multiple addresses, or how to fix it, I don't know
about that.

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On 7/28/2018 5:59 PM, thomasmclae wrote:

Our club PC with JMRI is connected to an EasyDCC system. Been working fine for years.
However, or last several operating sessions, the system has gone nuts. Loks moving and reversing without operator action, Engine Driver dropping Loks, dropping connections, etc.

Rebooting the computer seems to help, but what is the throttle limit for Easy DCC run through JMRI interface? Is there a hard number?
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

As far as I remember, the limit is 255, but when it gets that high, you should clear them out.

Our club PC with JMRI is connected to an EasyDCC system. Been working fine for years.
However, or last several operating sessions, the system has gone nuts. Loks moving and reversing without operator action, Engine Driver dropping Loks, dropping connections, etc.

Rebooting the computer seems to help, but what is the throttle limit for Easy DCC run through JMRI interface? Is there a hard number?
Thomas
DeSoto, TX