This issue has been discussed?

Look on the websight for all the comments

My opinion is jmri can only be used with the digitrax programming track by chance with paragon decoders. Sometimes it will identify the engine and most times it won’t.

I am told that you need to boost the power used to read and write normal decoders to read and write sound decoders in general and paragon in particular. ?Sprog 3 and digitrax pm4 programmers were suggested.?

Try the following

Run the engine, if new its address is 3. See the engine run.

Put engine on programming track, open decoder pro, select new engine, select find - if it doesn’t find the decoder then select it yourself

Open the programmer to basic page

Enter a 4 digit address and select it

Write changes on page. ?See error message telling you the engine didn’t respond

Place engine on track and run it using 4 digit address. ?If it runs your good

The company broadway limited which uses these decoders claim their decoders are good and can be programmed using the handheld doing one cv variable at a time

You may need to use a programmer with more power and an interface like jmri

I haven’t solved the problem for myself yet

Tony

On Aug 21, 2018, at 7:47 PM, David dareese51 <dareese51@...> wrote:

Bill

When you put the loco on your programming track connected to JMRI are you clicking on new loco?

If so make sure you choose either Diesel or Steam under Paragon 3 and not rolling thunder.? That is the only thing I can think to tell you.? I am sure others will have advice.

David

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:30 PM, Bill Knecht <wfknecht@...> wrote:

I am having a problem programing paragon 3 decoders.? Has anyone found how to program them with JMRI? I am using JMRI ver 4.13.2 and
can't get any changes to enter into the decoders on the programing track.

I've been corresponding with Nancy at Soundtraxx, it looks like the F45 does not have it's own set of default values, reused same decoder as the SDP45.? I did not have any info for the SDP45 either, she gave me one but it's for the older version with 1.5V bulbs, it's CV 256 is 52.? Athearn's announcement pdf states the recent run of F45 have LEDs.

All my Wow diesel V3 & V4 open from roster show the quill check boxes on the sound tab, even those created last year.? V1 & V2 do not since that CV is not supported in those versions.

Michael Mosher
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Member SFRH&MS              
DCC Master PVSMR            

On 8/22/2018 12:57 AM, Richard Knight wrote:

Michael, I do not have the loco here. I forwarded your email to the owner. We will try to get you that value. Did you see that the quill choice appears (WOW V4) when reading a new locomotive but when opening from the roster it does not appear? Also he had a 12volt supply for the sprog and has ordered a more powerful P.S.? I talked to Josh at Soundtraxx about you not having the CV list for the F45.??? Rick.

On 8/21/2018 9:56 PM, Michael Mosher wrote:

Can you tell me the value of CV 256 for the F45?

Thanks,

Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM            
Member SFRH&MS              
DCC Master PVSMR            

On 8/17/2018 12:53 AM, Richard Knight wrote:

Michael, Thanks. As i mentioned this was an over the phone "help" session that became complicated when we discovered the definition for the F45 was not listed. We did pick a loco with a similar prime mover but still ended up with an unresponsive decoder. After a reset and a retry today at my friends place I discovered the Sprog 2 he is using did not seem to have enough power to program and read correctly the TSU2. I use a Sprog 3 with upgraded power supply at home so my results have been better. Found a similar situation at the club with a 12 volt 125ma power supply? for the sprog not being able to read write a QSI V7 decoder. Rick.

On 8/16/2018 5:58 PM, Michael Mosher wrote:

The info has not been released by Soundtraxx yet for TSU2 equipped F45s.
They have info on Genesis locos here:

but the F45 not yet listed AND those files don't have everything needed to create a decoder definition.? For Tsunami2 and Econami decoders, JMRI needs the value of CV253 and 256 (read only values in the decoder); 253 is always 3 for Genesis & Athearn locos but 256 is unique for each model and the definition need that number for the identification routine to work.? I've been waiting for a few months now to get info from Soundtraxx but with their trade up program, new decoder models released and recent NMRA show they've been busy.

Now you can use other Genesis TSU2 definitions, the default values are not going to match what's in the loco so you'll have to read everything before making changes.? Another thing that might not match will be enumerated lists of sound choices, but so far the Genesis lists have been fairly consisted between models with same prime mover type, since F45 has 645, pick one that also has 645 (like a GP40-2) and probably the sound choices will be OK.

Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM            
Member SFRH&MS              
DCC Master PVSMR            

On 8/15/2018 3:45 PM, Richard Knight wrote:

Hi, i am trying to help a friend, over the phone!, with his Athearn Genesis F45 with TSU2. The basic problem is this engine is not listed in the choices when reading the loc with decoder pro. The F45 and FP45 are listed in the TSU1 but some of the CV's have been changed with different options in the TSU2. ?I was using GP38-2 as a stand in but this became problematical also. Is there any chance that the F45 could be added to the list? ?Thanks to Michael Mosher I could get the new file on the WOWV3and 4 diesel, download and install into the current version of decoder pro. Thanks Again, Rick.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Peter Riggall via Groups.Io" <petermmrs@...>
Date: August 22, 2018 at 9:21 AM


Having resolved signalling problems, I have now set up Transits and tried to
operate a train automatically.

Both in simulation and real situations, when the train (just a loco at this
stage) arrives at the destination block it stops but fails to reverse
(although the dispatcher active train status still shows "running"), however,
if it is physically pushed back into the preceding Section (or the block
occupancy sensor of the last block in the previous Section) is set manually in
simulation mode), automatic running in reverse commences back to the starting
block.? The train then auto forwards and repeats the outward trip but again
stopping at the destination block until pushed to the preceding Section and so
on.? I have used the DCC monitor to observe the loco commands which confirm
this i.e. At the destination: a speed step 0 forward is issued but nothing
else whereas at the starting block a speed step 0 reverse followed by speed
step 0 forward followed by a speed step 7? forward is issued.

The Transit consists of four sections with direction sensors incorporated into
the SML.? The panel has the direction displayed and it shows the sections
being reversed.

I cannot work out why the train wont auto reverse at the ned of the outward
trip - any ideas anyone?

Thanks in anticipation.

Peter

Is it possible when I downloaded this version I didn't get all of the program?? Steve

Michael, I do not have the loco here. I forwarded your email to the owner. We will try to get you that value. Did you see that the quill choice appears (WOW V4) when reading a new locomotive but when opening from the roster it does not appear? Also he had a 12volt supply for the sprog and has ordered a more powerful P.S.? I talked to Josh at Soundtraxx about you not having the CV list for the F45.??? Rick.

On 8/21/2018 9:56 PM, Michael Mosher wrote:

Can you tell me the value of CV 256 for the F45?

Thanks,

Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM            
Member SFRH&MS              
DCC Master PVSMR            

On 8/17/2018 12:53 AM, Richard Knight wrote:

Michael, Thanks. As i mentioned this was an over the phone "help" session that became complicated when we discovered the definition for the F45 was not listed. We did pick a loco with a similar prime mover but still ended up with an unresponsive decoder. After a reset and a retry today at my friends place I discovered the Sprog 2 he is using did not seem to have enough power to program and read correctly the TSU2. I use a Sprog 3 with upgraded power supply at home so my results have been better. Found a similar situation at the club with a 12 volt 125ma power supply? for the sprog not being able to read write a QSI V7 decoder. Rick.

On 8/16/2018 5:58 PM, Michael Mosher wrote:

The info has not been released by Soundtraxx yet for TSU2 equipped F45s.
They have info on Genesis locos here:

but the F45 not yet listed AND those files don't have everything needed to create a decoder definition.? For Tsunami2 and Econami decoders, JMRI needs the value of CV253 and 256 (read only values in the decoder); 253 is always 3 for Genesis & Athearn locos but 256 is unique for each model and the definition need that number for the identification routine to work.? I've been waiting for a few months now to get info from Soundtraxx but with their trade up program, new decoder models released and recent NMRA show they've been busy.

Now you can use other Genesis TSU2 definitions, the default values are not going to match what's in the loco so you'll have to read everything before making changes.? Another thing that might not match will be enumerated lists of sound choices, but so far the Genesis lists have been fairly consisted between models with same prime mover type, since F45 has 645, pick one that also has 645 (like a GP40-2) and probably the sound choices will be OK.

Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM            
Member SFRH&MS              
DCC Master PVSMR            

On 8/15/2018 3:45 PM, Richard Knight wrote:

Hi, i am trying to help a friend, over the phone!, with his Athearn Genesis F45 with TSU2. The basic problem is this engine is not listed in the choices when reading the loc with decoder pro. The F45 and FP45 are listed in the TSU1 but some of the CV's have been changed with different options in the TSU2. ?I was using GP38-2 as a stand in but this became problematical also. Is there any chance that the F45 could be added to the list? ?Thanks to Michael Mosher I could get the new file on the WOWV3and 4 diesel, download and install into the current version of decoder pro. Thanks Again, Rick.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:31 PM, Paul Bender wrote:

?

On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Moreno Mazzini <moreno.mazzini@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 02:42 PM, Paul Bender wrote:

Moreno,Build 2696 or later should have all this fix. The problem was an incomplete interpretation of the LocoNet message received.

Paul

Sorry Paul, I tested last build/package available #2655, and now single CV programmer is ok for me, but I have error 306 again if I write a CV in a panel of a decoder definition.

?

Just looking at this again, 2696 is the latest build available at

?

You may need to refresh the page to see it. ?2655 definitely does not have the most recent fix.

?

Paul

Excuse me Paul, I have package 2655 (at I see the lastest build is 2696, but at I see the latest package is 2655).
Seems to me that are the same (build 2696 and package 2655). Both include your commit

Commit by

better interpretation of the loconet messages received.

Sorry, I use wrong word. I confirm I have 306 error when I write a CV in POM in a panel of a decoder definition.
Moreno