Hi All, go to stevetodd. com he has RPI image that you can download and install on the RPI and connect to several DCC system as well as Windows computers. You may have to download other software to make it work. Al Babinsky Sent from Alto On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 13:33 Paul Bender paul.bender <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? On Aug 16, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Talmadge C 'TC' Carr group_list@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Has anyone ever tried JMRI on a RasPi running Win 10????? The I have a raspberry pi with windows 10 installed, but windows 10 for the Raspberry Pi is the IoT edition. This means the options for installing software on the device are limited, at best. The biggest issue is that you can't run Java on Windows 10 IoT. Without Java, we can't run JMRI. 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I drew my turntable on the background using EzDraw. Then I put a push bottom and a light on each track. All the logic is done with routes and goes out to the layout via CMRI to an SMINI that is dedicated to the turntable. Jim On Aug 16, 2017, at 15:40, crood58@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
I would like to put a turntable in my Panel using the Panel Editor like the one used in Layout Editor where you can click on the ray tracks to move the table. I would like to use the Panel Editor to customize the look and feel of the Panel. Is this possible?
Also, is there away to do it for a transfer table?
If this can't be done natively with the Panel Editor. Can it be done using a custom script?
Thanks in advance,
Chris
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Thank You Paul. I knew about the Linux option but I have a reason to ask the Win10 question. O well. TCC:}
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
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I like those ideas... However there are 3 to 7 switch machines per panel. Is there a way of running them all through one dpdt switch, rather than doubling up on each tortoise switch...????
Thank you for your replies.....
JZ in CT
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Ken,
That too will work.
Mark Juett
Ace Services LLC
Your First Choice
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From: "'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
Date: August 16, 2017 at 3:22:45 PM CDT
To: <jmriusers@...>
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
Reply-To: jmriusers@...
One layout the ¡®key¡¯ was a ?¡± phone plug. Each crew member carried one. The
plug was wired short and it would make a circuit when plugged in. That gave
local operation. Nice thing was it was safe around the public. They
generally didn¡¯t carry any.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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I would like to put a turntable in my Panel using the Panel Editor like the one used in Layout Editor where you can click on the ray tracks to move the table. I would like to use the Panel Editor to customize the look and feel of the Panel. Is this possible?
Also, is there away to do it for a transfer table?
If this can't be done natively with the Panel Editor. Can it be done using a custom script?
Thanks in advance,
Chris
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One layout the ¡®key¡¯ was a ?¡± phone plug. Each crew member carried one. The
plug was wired short and it would make a circuit when plugged in. That gave
local operation. Nice thing was it was safe around the public. They
generally didn¡¯t carry any.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Yes Paul That was the problem
It was a loose connection
A friend sent me a photo of his simple fix Using a rubber band stretched over the cord and around the Loco buffer body
All is well now
Thanks for your help
PS the green lights will work even when the cord is loose to the computer
Terry
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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Bender paul.bender@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...> Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Slot monitor is blank On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:23 AM, terryintexas7@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Its a Loco Buffer USB and it has 2 green lights and both are working Have you tried a different Loconet port and/or a different Loconet cable? I ask because last night I went through the process of installing a new LocoBuffer USB at my train club to replace one that was destroyed. I had two Loconet ports available near the computer. Plugging in to either of the ports caused all the LEDs to turn on, but only one of the two ports was giving me a Loconet signal. The cables can certainly wear out over time. ( Movement can cause an open circuit in one or more of the signal wires. The plugs can also wear out from repeated use.) Paul
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Sorry, I didn't think that jmri was giving a continuos signal to the Tortise.
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Date: 8/16/17 12:25 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
Ya, but if they accidentally let it go while moving over the switch it's
going to return to whatever position the DS had it set to originally... Can
you say "break out the Dixie cups!"????
JD
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I would add if you can locate spring loaded dpdt switch, the local crew can
hold the switch in the "Hand" position while they operate the toggle for the
switch motor. When they are done, releasing the spring loaded switch will
return the control to JMRI automatically. Dispatcher then has control again
without relying on the crew to return control. Cheers!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Date: 8/16/17 10:05 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
Put a second DPDT toggle in. The 2 center pins to the switch motor. Top pair
to JMRI connection. Bottom pair to local control toggle. Label above
selector as follows: Above "HAND" Below "POWER".
Now the DS can give your crews permission to take switch on hand! Just
remember to remind them that they need to tell the DS when they are
returning control of the switch back to him!!! It DOES tend to annoy
dispatchers when they can't throw a controlled switch and the local crew is
now several miles on down the line and there's mobody around to restore the
switch to the power position! <G>
Jim Duncan
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:31 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
I have my tortoise machines wired to dpdt switches on the facia. a common
installation.
I now want to wire the to RR-Cirkits Signalman boards for use through JMRI
panel pro.
Can anyone tell me how I would wire the so as to still retain control on the
facia when I am not using JMRI.
Thank you
JZ
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On Aug 16, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Talmadge C 'TC' Carr group_list@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Has anyone ever tried JMRI on a RasPi running Win 10????? The I have a raspberry pi with windows 10 installed, but windows 10 for the Raspberry Pi is the IoT edition. This means the options for installing software on the device are limited, at best. The biggest issue is that you can't run Java on Windows 10 IoT. Without Java, we can't run JMRI. Paul
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RaspBerry PI runs LINUX, not Windows OS.
There is a prepackaged image of JMRI from the author of Engine Driver SW for the PI.
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Tom: I agree that it takes some time to write the sound file on ESU decoders but, (and yes I know its proprietary hardware) when you use the Lokprogrammer to read the decoder settings it takes less than a minute to read all the CVs, I just wonder why DecoderPro cant read the ESU decoders faster. I'm not pointing fingers or anything like that, I think it's amazing that DecoderPro/PanelPro can do what it does.
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Has anyone ever tried JMRI on a RasPi running Win 10?????
Talmadge C 'TC' Carr
Sn42 and Hn42 somewhere in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest
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Ya, but if they accidentally let it go while moving over the switch it's
going to return to whatever position the DS had it set to originally... Can
you say "break out the Dixie cups!"????
JD
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
I would add if you can locate spring loaded dpdt switch, the local crew can
hold the switch in the "Hand" position while they operate the toggle for the
switch motor. When they are done, releasing the spring loaded switch will
return the control to JMRI automatically. Dispatcher then has control again
without relying on the crew to return control. Cheers!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: "'Jim Duncan' jdbandman@... [jmriusers]"
<jmriusers@...>
Date: 8/16/17 10:05 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
Put a second DPDT toggle in. The 2 center pins to the switch motor. Top pair
to JMRI connection. Bottom pair to local control toggle. Label above
selector as follows: Above "HAND" Below "POWER".
Now the DS can give your crews permission to take switch on hand! Just
remember to remind them that they need to tell the DS when they are
returning control of the switch back to him!!! It DOES tend to annoy
dispatchers when they can't throw a controlled switch and the local crew is
now several miles on down the line and there's mobody around to restore the
switch to the power position! <G>
Jim Duncan
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From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:31 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
I have my tortoise machines wired to dpdt switches on the facia. a common
installation.
I now want to wire the to RR-Cirkits Signalman boards for use through JMRI
panel pro.
Can anyone tell me how I would wire the so as to still retain control on the
facia when I am not using JMRI.
Thank you
JZ
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Another option: (expensive, but cool!)
A key operated switch that holds the key when it's turned from it's normal position. The local crew is issued a switch key and has to keep it with them. Now, when they forget their switch lock key, the have to sit without moving the train for the amount of time it would take for the brakeman to walk to the last place he used it and back to the head end of the train... 5 miles out and back, easily a two to 2.5 hour delay! <evil laughter ensues>
Jim Duncan
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What he said¡ ;-)
(I was typing up a rather verbose answer when his posted¡ and said pretty much exactly what I was typing... just somewhat more succinctly... ;-)
Basically the MotorMan (and WatchMan) inputs can be configured to output a SSB(/LocoNet) command to close/throw a turnout. If a MotorMan on that same SSB(/LocoNet) is configured to respond to that command then it will close/throw the turnout associated with that command. (The WatchMan sending the command and the WatchMan that responds to that command can be the same WatchMan.)
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For local control of switches I have installed panels locally with a toggle switch, a key switch that captures the key until returned to normal and an LED for indication that it is in hand not machine.
If the crew leaves without the key and it is on hand they likely will recognize that and retrieve the key thereby returning to machine control. As Mr. Duncan knows you don't want to upset the DS.
Mouser sells several key switches. Www.mouser.com you may want to consider this option.
I'm using with C/MRI but can be adapted to JMRI.
Mark Juett
Ace Services LLC
Your First Choice
www.modelrailroadbuilder.com
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Date: August 16, 2017 at 11:24:36 AM CDT
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
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I would add if you can locate spring loaded dpdt switch, the local crew can hold the switch in the "Hand" position while they operate the toggle for the switch motor. When they are done, releasing the spring loaded switch will return the control to JMRI automatically. Dispatcher then has control again without relying on the crew to return control. Cheers!
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: "'Jim Duncan' jdbandman@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
Date: 8/16/17 10:05 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
Put a second DPDT toggle in. The 2 center pins to the switch motor. Top pair
to JMRI connection. Bottom pair to local control toggle. Label above
selector as follows: Above "HAND" Below "POWER".
Now the DS can give your crews permission to take switch on hand! Just
remember to remind them that they need to tell the DS when they are
returning control of the switch back to him!!! It DOES tend to annoy
dispatchers when they can't throw a controlled switch and the local crew is
now several miles on down the line and there's mobody around to restore the
switch to the power position! <G>
Jim Duncan
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From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:31 AM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] Tortoise wiring
I have my tortoise machines wired to dpdt switches on the facia. a common
installation.
I now want to wire the to RR-Cirkits Signalman boards for use through JMRI
panel pro.
Can anyone tell me how I would wire the so as to still retain control on
the facia when I am not using JMRI.
Thank you
JZ
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The error is caused by opening my panel file with JMRI version 4.9.2. The panel file is loaded without error in versions 4.9.1 and prior. I have uploaded a copy of the panel file to the following Yahoo group folder:
ProblemsBeingWorkedOn/Craig G
Could someone please take a look at the panel file? Thanks in advance for your help.
Craig
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On 08/15/2017 02:53 PM, Craig Goodyear cjhs22a@... [jmriusers] wrote: On 08/13/2017 09:06 PM, Bob Jacobsen jacobsen@... [jmriusers] wrote:
Test version 4.9.2 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download.
I am seeing an error in the system console log that was not there with
JMRI 4.8.
2017-08-15 14:32:48,351 automat.Siglet ERROR -
Siglet start invoked, but defined no inputs [AWT-EventQueue-0]
Does this indicate a possible error in my panel file, or is it a bug?
I'm running Fedora 26 operating system with Java 1.8.0_141. Below is the
complete output from the system console.
Craig
2017-08-15 14:32:42,391 util.Log4JUtil INFO -
* JMRI log ** [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:42,542 util.Log4JUtil INFO -
This log is appended to file: /home/craig/.jmri/log/messages.log [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:42,545 util.Log4JUtil INFO -
This log is stored in file: /home/craig/.jmri/log/session.log [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:42,617 apps.Apps INFO -
PanelPro version 4.9.2+Rff24066 starts under Java 1.8.0_141 on Linux
amd64 v4.12.5-300.fc26.x86_64 at Tue Aug 15 14:32:42 CDT 2017 [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:43,396 apps.Apps INFO -
Starting with profile Dover_Oakland.3f4c226b [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:43,658 node.NodeIdentity INFO -
Using jmri-52540095A9D2-3f4c226b as the JMRI Node identity [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:44,427 locobuffer.LocoBufferAdapter INFO -
/dev/ttyUSB0 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR:
true CTS: true CD: false [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:45,271 apps.PerformFileModel INFO -
Loading file /home/craig/.jmri/Dover_Oakland/Dover_Oakland_SH_2.xml [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:48,351 automat.Siglet ERROR -
Siglet start invoked, but defined no inputs [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2017-08-15 14:32:52,239 apps.PerformScriptModel INFO -
Running script /home/craig/.jmri/Dover_Oakland/Initilize_Turnouts.py [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:52,254 script.JmriScriptEngineManager INFO -
python 2.7 is provided by jython 2.7.0 [main]
2017-08-15 14:32:52,293 script.JmriScriptEngineManager INFO -
ECMAScript ECMA - 262 Edition 5.1 is provided by Oracle Nashorn
1.8.0_141 [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,428 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path program: is /home/craig/JMRI/ [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,453 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path preference: is /home/craig/.jmri/Dover_Oakland/ [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,454 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path profile: is /home/craig/.jmri/Dover_Oakland/ [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,454 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path settings: is /home/craig/.jmri/ [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,454 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path home: is /home/craig/ [main]
2017-08-15 14:33:02,454 util.FileUtilSupport INFO -
File path scripts: is /home/craig/JMRI/jython/ [main]
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FYI Nelson, when writing to an ESU decoder, there are over 1500 CVs to write,
that does take some time. I also use the SPROG, when writing or reading with the
SPROG, I just go do something else, like get supper ready or cut the lawn.
John
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tested on a Windows 7 system (mainly Panel Pro) all functioning as normal,
converted CMR/I hardware to cpNode hardware (which it is), some tweaking
required but hardware functioning as expected. Documentation on setting up the
cpNode software would be an asset.
tested decoderpro on a pi-sprog and all functions are working as
expected.....still way slow to read ESU decoders.
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What he said¡ ;-)
(I was typing up a rather verbose answer when his posted¡ and said pretty much exactly what I was typing... just somewhat more succinctly... ;-)
Basically the MotorMan (and WatchMan) inputs can be configured to output a SSB(/LocoNet) command to close/throw a turnout. If a MotorMan on that same SSB(/LocoNet) is configured to respond to that command then it will close/throw the turnout associated with that command. (The WatchMan sending the command and the WatchMan that responds to that command can be the same WatchMan.)
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JZ,
I think you mean MotorMan, not SignalMan.
Untested theory follows:
1) The MotorMan has an eight port Input/Output socket. Essentially half of a TowerMan.
2) The DPDT is replaced by a SPST (or wired to behave as one).
3) The I/O socket is configured as Input and to send a switch request.
4) A motor output entry is configured to listen for that switch request.
5) When it the SPST is changed, the switch request drives the Tortoise.
Notes:
1) Once a xxxxMan board is configured, it listens for and responds to events on the SSB bus and the LocoNet by way of the SSB-Gateway.
2) When JMRI is running, JMRI might not know the turnout position if someone uses the toggle switch.
Dave Sand
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