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Circuit/PCB Design

All,

Any suggestion on the best free Windows software for this? There are various out there and one called KiCad caught my eye. I felt like trying to put a design together and see what we think.

Steve

MRFC522, Nano/Uno/Mega Serial Ethernet?

Tom,

I thought I'd try this setup with another computer and JMRI using the Serial output, just in case it was some sort of problem with my laptop. Unfortunately it still doesn't work on the Serial output? I get the same 'unknown message of length 16' again. The computer/JMRI setup I did this test on is my French layout that has a working MFRC/Nano setup.?

So I do think it is something going on in the sketch, but not sure what. I have a few ideas and will have another go tonight.

Steve

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Sounds like you have Crew Alert enabled on one of the locos.

In DP, it's on the Sound tab.
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On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 10:48 AM, Allan Altheim wrote:

Can JMRI be upgraded with the executables off line?

Download the exe/dmg/tgz as appropriate for your target opsys to a removable media (SD card/USB drive/etc).
Sneakernet to your target machine.
No Internet needed for install from the removable media.
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Thomas

1.? DCCEX can drive locos on the programming track, but you have to issue the <1 JOIN> command for that to work.? That command can be sent via JMRI, or it can be incorporated into the setup when the arduino was programmed.? Without that command the system will not drive a loco on the programming track - only the main track.??

2.? What do you see when you open the DCC++ Traffic Monitor window (from DecoderPro > DCC++ menu > DCC++ Traffic Monitor) and try to drive your loco with a JMRI Throttle for loco 3007?? Can you try this then copy the results and paste them here for us to see please?? As an example, I opened a throttle window, and manually set address 3007, then set the loco to about 50% forward speed.? The DCC++ Traffic monitor showed the following on my system:

TX: Throttle Cmd: Address: 3007, Speed: 62, Direction: Forward

RX: Loco State: LocoId:3007 Dir:Forward Speed:62 F0-28:00000000000000000000000000000

3.? What happens if you try to operate your DCCEX system by issuing DCC++ commands directly?? You can try this by opening the Send DCC++ Command Window (DecoderPro > DCC++ menu > Send DCC++ Command), then type the following into the window that opens up:

1 JOIN

That is the number one, a space, and the word JOIN in capitals.? Then click "Send Packet" or just press Enter.? (That command tells DCCEX to turn the track power On, and to drive locomotives on both the Main and Programming tracks)

What do you get from the DCC++ Traffic Monitor for the above command?? My system shows:

TX: Track Power ON Cmd?

RX: DIAG: LCD2:Power On JOIN?

RX: Power Status: Name:JOIN Status:ON

Now try:

t 3007 10 1?

Lowercase letter t space number 3007 space number 10 space number 1, then click "Send Packet" or just press Enter.
The DCC++ Traffic Monitor should show:

TX: Throttle Cmd: Address: 3007, Speed: 10, Direction: Forward

RX: Loco State: LocoId:3007 Dir:Forward Speed:10 F0-28:00000000000000000000000000000

That should drive loco 3007 forward at speed step 10.? To stop it (if it moves) type in:

t 3007 0 1

If the loco is moving as a result of these commands, are you then able to drive it from the JMRI throttle for loco 3007?

Trevor

Dave,

The system console shows no messages when I run the LogixNG to make the NX pair active.

I can, with Logix NG, make the NX pair disabled or enabled, however the Exit Entry "Add Entry Exit Points" window does not indicate Disabled, but the signal goes from held to not held and vice versa.

If I manually make the sensors active, first NXE then NXW for example, then the pair becomes active and the Layout panel show the route as reserved.

I can also use LogixNG to make the pair active or inactive by making the sensors active or inactive like the logixNG shown below:

! A If Then Else, Always execute
? ?? If Entry/exit "NXE (W4) to NXW (E4)" is inactive
? ? ! Then Many
? ? ? ! A1 Set sensor NXE to state Active
? ? ? ! A2 Execute A after 500 milliseconds, Ignore on repeat
? ? ? ? ? ! A Set sensor NXW to state Active
? ! Else Return

When the above LogixNG is executed and the NX pair is inactive, then the "Add Entry Exit Points"? window updates to show the pair as active, the track segments change color to indicate the route is reserved, and the signal for the interlocking changes to Clear.

But when I try to use the Action? Set Entry/Exit "NXE (W4) to NXW (E4)" to Set NX Pair Segment Active / Inactive,
then, I see nothing happen. There is no Console output, The Panel track segments do not change color and the??"Add Entry Exit Points" window does not change indicate the pair is active.?

My Files can be accessed

So I have a workaround, but I don't understand why the Set Entry/Exit "NXE (W4) to NXW (E4)" to Set NX Pair Segment Active / Inactive? does bit work.

Should this be logged as an issue?? Or, am I just not using this the correct way?

Regards,

John

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Not sure what you are asking, but I assume the GPIO pins don’t work like you expect. Did you add the GPIO software routines to the PI??

I forgot to add I am using JMRI Ver 5.3.1 and Java 11.? Sorry.

I use a layout editor panel with train tracking for my dispatcher to control train movements.? The default memory icons displaying the train info were too small to read comfortably, so I edited the panel .xml file to increase the font size for the memoryicon elements.? This works as the text size on the layout panel?is increased to the edited value.? The issue is that the width of the memory icon display on the panel does not change to accommodate the new text size width resulting in a truncated memory value display.

I cannot seem to find a method to resize the display width in the layout editor.? On the drop down menu for the memory icon there are options for Width = Auto and Height = Auto but these options are grayed-out and not selectable (they would seem to be what I want).? I have tried setting the Preferences - Display - Default Font Size which in addition to modifying the Windows fonts also resulted in a new memoryicon font size set to the new default value but the panel still showed truncated text.? The memory values being displayed are not long, typically something like:? 'NW Coke Turn' or 'SOU 313' where most of the 'Turn' text and '13' is missing (truncated).

I appreciate your interest in my problem and any guidance forthcoming.

Cheers,? Roger

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 04:12 AM, Thomas Seitz wrote:

Steve,

I tend to agree with Jerry here. We solved this situation for him with this. Ensure that the connection type is MERG Concentrator (A-H), whether the connection is serial or network interface.

Tom

okay, so I have done some extensive tests with the Uno/reader and Uno/ethernet/reader. I still have the same problem. Both work perfectly until connected to JMRI as a direct serial connection when no tag information is displayed in the Reporters Table. If I look at the RFID Command Monitor, I can see the tag data with msg reply of unknown length16. I have checked and checked again that the RFID connection settings are correct, including selecting MERG Concentrator. For some reason that I cannot work out, neither combination works.?

If I get some of the other Uno's just running a serial output only, everything works correctly in JMRI without me changing any of the settings! Completely baffled!

Have you actually tried the sketch in serial mode with JMRI yourself? Does it work for you?

Steve

Works (for at least one reader) but definitely still under development.? Issue is with coordination between ESP32 library version and MFRC522 library. Should we take this discussion to the RFID4MRR group?? Issues are not related to JMRI which does what is expected and works fine.

Jerry
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If it has a DCC decoder, it’s compatible with JMRI. ?I recommend you take it to someone who has a self-contained DCC system and try it there. ?It may just be that while it’s working, as in reading, on your JMRI program track, you’re not getting track power on and address selected properly to try and run it. ?Taking it somewhere else to try eliminates the loco from the equation.

Hello again and thank you for your help, that is very nice of you all. Changing CV29 to value 34 and clicking write changes to page/write changes to all pages did not yield anything new. I tried it on the programming track and main track and nothing from 3007, not even the lights respond. At this point I think I may just buy a fresh loco that is known to work with JMRI. With that being said, do any of you guys have any recommendations for dcc-ready/dcc-equipped trains that are known to work with JMRI. I’ve done some searching online and on here of recommended setups or anything similar for beginners to check out to learn more about creating JMRI setups and couldn’t find anything. As a beginning who’s sole goal is utilizing JMRI it’s kind of surprising there’s no FAQ outlining that kind of stuff. Any posts you guys know of I could checkout that outlines known JMRI compatible trains or recommendations you guys have?

Thank you, appreciated as always,
Thomas

I have a pi4 8gb running g 64 bit rasputin and the latest JMRI.
All works great except when I select Raspberry pi gpio? and I get error message, cannot connect to pi, as this expected when not using a pi.
Not sure what's going on.....