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Re: HELP! Signals not working
The System Console log is available in several locations.?
Probably the simplest? under HELP,? System Console.? use the "copy to clipboard"?? and the paste to this tread of yours. Marc |
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Re: HELP! Signals not working
I see that you are asking for the 'console log' information.? Let me know where to find that, and I will gladly pass it along.
Thanks Kerry |
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JMRI 4.17.6, Loksound 5, Function Map pane -> Bricked decoder
I'm fiddling with
a Loksound 5 decoder, with DecoderPro. I've run in to an issue while doing
so that leaves the decoder bricked, ?requiring a factory reset to
get out of it.
Specifically the decoder is a Loksound 5 21 pin, bootcode 5.0.5 and Firmware 5.1.85, Type 63, according to DecoderPro, ? The sound project is for a UK Dapol Class 68 locomotive, project by "LegomanBiffo", which in the Loksound 4 version is the Dapol factory sound project. ?I have a version on a Loksound 4 which works decently well. ?I purchased a new L5 decoder with the "upgraded" project on it - which appears to be a quick conversion from the L4 version as in the Info pane it still says Loksound 4 in the Loco Name field. It sounds the same and has basically the same function key setup. ? The symptom is that something I get DP to do to the decoder causes it to behave as though Drive Hold is turned on, permanently. ?Right now, I have not discovered exactly what this is, but I'm zeroing in on something in the Function Map pane. ?I have a custom CV setup for this loco, and I can run all the changes into it from other tabs, and the loco still works. ?If I then start to make changes on the function map pane, things start to go wrong. ? I've gone back to the project's original set of function map entries, which go to row 31. On row 33, I added F22 as Brake 1, and the loco still worked. I then added row 34, F23, Brake 2, ditto - and I also went to Advanced and set some paremeters for Brake 1 and Brake 2, and the brakes worked as I expected. ?But the loco was too loud, so I then set row 40 to F28, Volume/Mute,and toggled it. ?Bricked - as far as movement is concerned. ?Light controls on functions OK, sound triggered functions OK, just no action from the loco. ? Could the issue be F28, or Volume/Mute? ? (I noted, and this may or may not be a red herring, that ?(according to the L5 manual) Volume/Mute is 128 in Control CV O, while Drive Hold is 128 in Control CV N; is it possible that somewhere the wrong CV is being changed, not that doing so should leave the decoder permanently in Drive Hold, if indeed that is happening). So I reset it again, checked that the loco would run, went back to my intended function map, erased actions on the F28 row and rewrote the entire decoder in POM mode. Bricked again. ?Reset on program track, erased the entire row with F28, and it still bricks - indeed, it actually bricked while writing the function map pane. ? Could the issue be row 40? No, my intended function map setup goes to row 38 only. ? So the question is whether this is a Loksound 5 feature/bug, a Decoderpro function map issue, ?a sound project issue, or possibly even a Mick issue. Just to complete the picture, I'm doing this from DecoderPro connected to a Digitrax DCS240 Command station via a LocobufferUSB, using the DCS240 program track outputs (which is sometimes another story) or POM mode. ?I have DP programming settings setup with Allow Caching... and When Possible.... both unchecked. As an aside, I also note that L5 no longer has Notch Up/Notch down functions - anyone miss that? ? ?I do appreciate the F-key brake functions, at last. Soundtraxx have had that functionality since 2005. Mick ______________________________________________________________________ Mick Moignard Specialising in DCC Sound p: +44 7774 652504 e: mick@... skype: mickmoignard Notes and Domino: ?Rapid app development, , hi-code, low code, no code, noSQL. What else do you need? ? |
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Re: Block and Memory Variables Values show TagID not User Name on Web Server in v4.17.5
Making some progress on this. Turns out memories can store various object types, so the panel display logic handles each type individually. Most are easily converted to a string, but one of the types is an ImageIcon.
Andy, (or anyone else), do you know how to store an ImageIcon in a memory? Do you have an example panel with that? |
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Re: HELP! Signals not working
I don't remember what I updated from, but I went to 4.16 production version.
I updated to JMRI 4.17.6, but I still have the same issues. For reference, Java version is 1.8.0_231. Thanks Kerry |
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Re: How do you get the Turnouts and Signal heads to update on loading a Panel File?
This is usually a problem that when you start your system all the feedback sensors will be shown as 'Unknown' and this is taken as 'Occupied' for the benefit of setting signal logic and LOGIX. As soon as any of the sensors change state then they will start to populate the sensor table as the correct state (which for the most part will be 'Unoccupied') and things start working.
As you have found the easiest answer is usually to run a train round to trigger all of the feedback modules to transmit their state to the command station. |
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Re: java Exception when try to add a second internal sensor
Steve, I have identified a possible cause for the unexpected CBUS validation. ?There is a listener left when the first Add window is closed which is triggered when Add is selected again. ?When CBUS is the FIRST connection, it gets called to validate the saved input from the first add. ?The previous value is reused to facilitate entering multiple similar names. If LocoNet, NCE, etc. are the FIRST connection, they get called instead of CBUS, but their validation is not as comprehensive as CBUS so the error does not occur. ?Creating a virtual LocoNet connection as the first connection is a temporary work around. ?A review of Preferences >> Defaults would be required. I still need to identify if this is the true problem and figure out a solution. ?Another issue is that there is a change to validation in progress which may or may not affect this particular issue. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "steve young via Groups.Io" <icklesteve@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] java Exception when try to add a second internal sensor Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:39 AM Hi Andy, Thanks for reporting, have been able to reproduce the same exception. Will need to do a bit of digging around why any sort of Internal Sensor validation is going via CBUS Sensor validation, Steve. |
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Advanced consists (part 2)
David Griffiths
On 3rd October 2017 a topic was started on Advanced Consists (#140322) which describes the problem I am having with trying to set up a 'Consist' using a Sprog II. I far as I can see, the previous thread never reached a conclusion. I thought I'd provide my work around.
My set up is a SprogII using PanelPro 4.16, with SprogII in Command mode. Edit/Preferences/Defaults shows a 'button' for a consist.Using the Consist panel, as instructed by the help screen did not update CV19 of the locomotives (checked on DecoderPro). Using the DecoderPro Consist page I manually set CV19 (Consist address) to 50 for both locos. Entering 50 into the Throttle gave me my desired consist!. If anyone wants to work on the problem, I'm happy to send a log file. |
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Someone once stated the TSU2 and ECO would alternate a pulse forward/backward to remain at same spot during programming in Service mode,. ?
The decoder must issue a pulse (ACK) , might not move the engine but it still issues an ACK that is picked up by the programming device in Service mode, His DCC++ system seems to be completing the task but it always ends with a 308 error.? What surprises is the fact it is looking for an ACK on the MAIN also, it throws a 308 error. Marc? |
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Re: Parse error with a very old file
Leo, You'll ned to bring Java up to at least 1.8 first. It's no go with 1.6 for the newer versions of JMRI. Wouter On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 18:21, leo pesce <lpescester@...> wrote:
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Worth noting that Tsunami-2 decoders don¡¯t pulse the motor to generate an ack pulse. ?They don¡¯t move or even twitch when programming. ?I¡¯ve done upwards of 200 TSU-2 decoders with DecoderPro, no issues with any of them |
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Re: Fatal crash - JMRI V 4.16
Steve and Dave, I can now repeatedly, at will, cause the error, or run without the error. I also tried running with the MERG Can Simulation ¡®connection instead of via USB - the failure mode is the same as described below. It is the Debug (Display) Message log that is somehow causing the problem. If I open JMRI, open the Debug message log then open the Script output Panel the Fatal error always occurs. If I don't open the Debug Message log I can open the Script Output Panel, my Layout panel, the Thread Monitor, run a script, open the Script Entry Panel, load? and run scripts. I have just done this a dozen times without a single Fatal Error. If I open the Debug Message panel after I have opened the Script Output Panel I can still open my Layout panel, Thread monitor and run a script. I can kill the script and rerun it as many times as I like with? no problem. However, as soon as I click the PanelPro 'Quit' button the fatal error always occurI loaded JMRI Version 4.17.6, but the error still occurred.? I can now repeatedly, at will, cause the error, or run without the error. I also tried running with the MERG Can Simulation ¡®connection instead of via USB - the failure mode is the same as described below. It is the Debug (Display) Message log that is somehow causing the problem. If I open JMRI, open the Debug message log then open the Script output Panel the Fatal error always occurs. If I don't open the Debug Message log I can open the Script Output Panel, my Layout panel, the Thread Monitor, run a script, open the Script Entry Panel, load? and run scripts. I have just done this a dozen times without a single Fatal Error. If I open the Debug Message panel after I have opened the Script Output Panel I can still open my Layout panel, Thread monitor and run a script. I can kill the script and rerun it as many times as I like with? no problem. However, as soon as I click the PanelPro 'Quit' button the fatal error always occurs.Regards John |
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WebServer causes PanelPro to change color
We use PanelPro for our dispatch/detection and I¡¯ve noticed if someone views the webserver on their phone or tablet the dispatch screen goes to a whiteish looking screen. Like when an application locks up and the Window ghosts out, but everything is still functional. There¡¯s about a four or five second delay when you close out of the webserver on the device and it goes back to normal.? Has anybody seen that?? Thanks, |
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Re: Bouncing
15 minutes before you sent this message, groups.io reported you were no longer bouncing.
From groups.io Help: Bounce A bounce happens when an email message cannot be delivered. Possible reasons include an incorrect email address, a full mailbox, or a problem connecting to an email server. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - |
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problem with dispatcher
Hello J am using JMRI in France and it's an very beautiful soft I have two questions to submit to you First point: As you say in the documentation, the dispatcher works perfectly with a single train. Yes! it's checked! It also works with two trains if the transits are different in the positioning of the turnout. Yes it's also true! There is a problem with the turnout core when the next train switches it when the preceding train is not fully removed from the turnout This is related to the detection of the train by power consumption that does not always work on both boggies I found several solutions but imperfect that only works in one direction of circulation ? ?? Enlarge the block (or section) at the heel of the turnout on the network ? ?? for crossover, delay the turnout movement with a logix Do you have better solution ? Second point: I think that a general solution would be to permanently allocate the epending section For example ? ?? transit with Sect0 - Sect1 - Sect2 - Sect3 etc. ? ?? train with two reserved sections forward ? ?? the train being in Sect1, then allocate Sect0 Sect1 Sect2 Sect3 ? ?? the train being in Sect2, then allocate Sect1 Sect2 Sect3 Sect4 Is that possible, and difficult? sorry for my English?! Thank you for your answers A good day luc |
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Re: Parse error with a very old file
Thank you all for the suggestions and help. I found out that the file we have in possession currently, last access was in 2012. We do not have the latest version of the file, but we do know that JMRI was never updated. From the file we find: <jmriversion> ? ? <major>2</major> ? ? <minor>14</minor> ? ? <test>1</test> ? ? <modifier>.1ish</modifier> ? </jmriversion> and Java was 1.6.0_26. We are setting up a laptop with that version (Java will be the newest - I hope that will not be a problem) and then we will make a number of upgrades, I believe 4.6.0, 4.12.0 and 4.17.5(6?), saving the file as we go along, and addressing any issues as we encounter. Hopefully we will get the final file with the latest JMRI and Java working. If not, I am sure you all will be hearing from me here.? :) Thank you again. Cheers Leo P On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:14 AM Randall Wood via Groups.Io <rhwood=[email protected]> wrote:
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Another item that might be affecting the ACK pulse is the use of a 12V power supply (your wallwart). 12V could be at lower limit power, programming wise .
With the Digitrax PR3 we were adding higher output power supplies to the PR3. As high as 18V.? Digitrax had provided a 12V power supply with the original PR3 and it was soon discovered this was insufficant to the task and they replaced the 12V power with the 14V they still offer to this day.? Your 12V power supply may not be regulated and drop below it's 12V spec level. My suggestion is to take your engine to a friend or CLUB and ask them to read values from decoder to see if the ACK pulse is present. Marc |
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Re: Bouncing
Testing? via PRIVATE Email via Groups.io .
If this mail gets thru to you, then Groups.io has the proper Email address for you. Marc |
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Re: java Exception when try to add a second internal sensor
Hi Andy,
Thanks for reporting, have been able to reproduce the same exception. Will need to do a bit of digging around why any sort of Internal Sensor validation is going via CBUS Sensor validation, Steve. |
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Thank you Dave and Marc.? Somehow some of my replies aren't coming through on this forum.? I've made the changes to Preferences.? The Tool Tips are helpful.? Unfortunately, I'm still getting the 308.? I'm definitely not getting any nudge/ACK pulse.? I have a question in to Soundtraxx for another reason.? I'll ask about the ACK from the Tsunami 2 when I get a reply.
Since this is my first adventure with DCC, it's really good to have this forum.? Through this adventure, my test track(the only track/layout I have for now) has evolved into something similar to what they have at Railmaster Hobbies(but only 3 feet long), switchable from DC to DCC and Program to Main. I'll post what I hear from Soundtraxx.? Hopefully it'll save somebody some time. |
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