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Since the switches inside the tortoise are isolated, where is the GND Loop supposively happening at?
The three wires connected to pins 5, 6 & 7 need to go directly to the AIU GND terminal and two input pins of the AIU. They should be routed close together and preferably lightly twisted together.
The GND connection between pin 5 and the AIU GND terminal must not be made via any bus ground. Multiple Tortoises position switches must not use a shared ground back to the AIU GND.
To do otherwise invites false triggering of the AIU inputs.
The email from Dick Bronson (principal of RRCirKits) is here:
Dave in Australia
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Hi P?r, I have uploaded a script example that will hopefully be helpful. /g/jmriusers/files/VSD/SensorListener.pyYou have to open the LocoNet Monitor to see the transponding messages. Open the sensor table (Tools >> Tables >> Sensors) and click on an sensor state. Regards Klaus Am 16.09.2019 um 12:23 schrieb P?r Ekstrand:
Hi,
I am using JMRI for a shelf layout I have. I run my trains using scrips and
I am using decoders, sensors etc from a Swedish company? mollehem.se
My layout is N-scale and I would like to use VSD for the loco sounds.
I am trying to figure out what LocoNet messages to send in my scripts
to mimic the messages sent by the Digitrax Transponding system to
report loco possitions.
Since I only run my trains with scripts I thought that I could put in LocoNet
messages in the scripts that will tell the position of the trains to VSD when
I get a message from the corresponding sensor that the train is located there.
Is there someone that could help with the how a LOcoNet message like that should look like ?
Best Regards
P?r Ekstrand
Stockholm
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Re: Release 4.17.4. Cell phone no longer controls trains
Frank:
The suggested solution to the Android change is to operate in Airplane mode. This turns the phone system radio off so we're not trying to connect to the net over that network.
Jim Albanowski
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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 05:47 PM, Roger Merritt wrote:
Dave,
How are you loading JMRI since I've been downloading just the image file?
Roger
Roger, Downloading a new image from Steve seems a drastic way to upgrade JMRI when all you need to do is download a linux version of JMRI and extract it. If you checked all the links Steve provide, he has one that goes to a page where he has a full write up on how to upgrade JMRI -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association -
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Hi,
I am using JMRI for a shelf layout I have. I run my trains using scrips and
I am using decoders, sensors etc from a Swedish company? mollehem.se
My layout is N-scale and I would like to use VSD for the loco sounds.
I am trying to figure out what LocoNet messages to send in my scripts
to mimic the messages sent by the Digitrax Transponding system to
report loco possitions.
Since I only run my trains with scripts I thought that I could put in LocoNet
messages in the scripts that will tell the position of the trains to VSD when
I get a message from the corresponding sensor that the train is located there.
Is there someone that could help with the how a LOcoNet message like that should look like ?
Best Regards
P?r Ekstrand
Stockholm
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Re: Having issues connecting on closed Wifi
Bradley: Turning off auto connect removes one potential problem but the other is that your phone may be looking for an internet connection - and there isn't one on your layout router I presume. There should be a setting somewhere in your phone to force it to ignore internet connectivity when connecting to a wifi network.
Rather than fiddling with your phone settings you can automate all of this with the free WifiPrioritizer app. It allows you to fine tune when to connect to which networks and to ignore or consider internet connectivity separately for each. In your case, you could have your phone set up exactly as it used to be but then lock on to your layout router whenever it is active.
Jan
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My apologies to the group, because I think this was answered to someone else a very short time ago, but I can not find the email and accompanying information.
I have a JMRI Panel set up to control the layout and monitor occupancy via locoNet. ?If I click on a turnout on my computer to throw a switch, the position on the panel is always consistent with the turnout. ?My DCC system is NCE, and stationary decoders for tortoise machines are NCE SwitchIt and Switch8 decoders. ?If someone using their throttle throws a switch or if they use a layout/fascia push button to change the orientation of the switch it does not show the change on the panel. ?Is there a way to manage this other than adding AIU boards for feedback?
Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
atsf93@...
See my?NEW website ?and layout?at: ? Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype
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Re: Loconet over TCP persistance
Sorry, asked a relatively simple question in a complex way...
Main computer tied to Loconet (either with a LB-USB or directly to a DCS240) and WiFi clients (RPi's) running JMRI instances.? Either of the client to server pieces of code (Loconet Client/Server or LoconetOverTCP) are supposed to work but do not. 4.16 on main, 4.17.3 on clients.
What's broken or has changed since 4.14.
Thanks,
Martin Booker
pmrrm.org
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Frank,? My DCC command station is the NCE PH Pro 5 amp system. ?I purchased a Power Pax to program the newer sound decoders and it seemed to do the job for a while, but eventually I put it away and purchased the Soundtraxx PTB-100 and it works just fine. ?Buying the Power Pax which was a little cheaper was my way of hoping to save a little money but that did not work out. ?
I have thought about trying to sell the Power Pax on ebay, but that is just passing on the problem. ?
I hope that this doesn¡¯t send this thread on a side track, but I believe that the newest Soundtraxx Tsunami decoders no longer require the boost of the PTB-100 in programming and in fact do better with out the PTB-100. ?So I have a switch now on my programming track to bypass the PTB-100 when programming the newest Tsunami decoders. ?
I would recommend going against adding more voltage to the layout just to facilitate program track programming. ?That would be putting everything else you have at greater risk of damage.
Thomas Cain
Indianapolis, IN
atsf93@...
See my?NEW website ?and layout?at: ? Modeling the Eastern Illinois?Santa Fe from the Prototype
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On Sep 16, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Frank Rich via Groups.Io < frich1230@...> wrote:
Hello All I have learned that I cannot program any engines w/ JMRI on my program track.? JMRI works fine when I program on the main. I believe my PS14 power supply (with a Power Pax) is to low Can someone suggest an 18volt power supply to try? Thank You Frank
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Hi Jim
...YES...YOU GOT IT....That is Exactly what I am experiencing. ?YES, I think there was an update on the android software. ?I (hopefully) will check with the author of that software. ?THANK YOU...YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM. ?I was afraid it was something I did but it looks like that was not the reason for this failure.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!....Much Appreciated....... ?Frank in Houston Texas....
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Re: Detection in JRMI with NCE Accessories
FYI, I also never received and email from the group, with a person name Dick on it
Thank Dave
In PA
Sent from iPhone Xs Max
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On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:33, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
Dave,
On 14 Sep 2019, at 10:09 PM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave for chiming in. The AIU board Gnd is connected to the Separate Accy Power Bus, on the ¡°-¡° side of the power supply. So am attaching Pin 5 also to the same Gnd on the Accy Power Bus, which is also the AIU Gnd.
Does that make my drawing correct or wrong? As Dick has said, a bad idea. The ground wire needs to be parallel to the signal wires and go directly to the AIU ground. To do otherwise invites trouble, ranging from false triggering to voltage spike damage.
The reasons are that:
- Your input connection becomes a loop antenna prone to picking up electrical noise.
- Your earth paths (part of the loop) will likely be carrying other current, with consequent voltage fluctuations, creating nuisance triggering and possible device damage.
Dave in Australia
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Re: Detection in JRMI with NCE Accessories
Hi Dave
Sorry for the delay, been sick. I am confused on your last reply, see below about a ground loop.
My Assy. Bus is power by a separate external power supply, unrelated to my DCC power system.
My GND side of my Assy. Bus is what¡¯s running to my AIU¡¯s GND, along with the GND on my BD20¡¯s and the GND side of my external power for my Switch8 Mk2¡¯s.
The positive + side of my Assy. Bus goes to the other external side of my Switch8 MK2¡¯s.
Since the switches inside the tortoise are isolated, where is the GND Loop supposively happening at?
Thanks for any any input here.
Dave
In PA
Sent from iPhone Xs Max
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On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:33, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
Dave,
On 14 Sep 2019, at 10:09 PM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave for chiming in. The AIU board Gnd is connected to the Separate Accy Power Bus, on the ¡°-¡° side of the power supply. So am attaching Pin 5 also to the same Gnd on the Accy Power Bus, which is also the AIU Gnd.
Does that make my drawing correct or wrong? As Dick has said, a bad idea. The ground wire needs to be parallel to the signal wires and go directly to the AIU ground. To do otherwise invites trouble, ranging from false triggering to voltage spike damage.
The reasons are that:
- Your input connection becomes a loop antenna prone to picking up electrical noise.
- Your earth paths (part of the loop) will likely be carrying other current, with consequent voltage fluctuations, creating nuisance triggering and possible device damage.
Dave in Australia
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Frank,
Get a 16-18VDC power supply for your PR3. I use an 18VDC 1.1 amp power brick salvaged from an old inkjet printer.? Then get rid of the Power Pax. You won't need it. My PR3 with that 18VDC supply will reliably read/write to any sound decoder I've tried (just about all popular brands except MRC).
HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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Frank,
Get rid of the Power Pax and use a PTB100. The PS14 is enough power though I have a 16 volt on mine.?
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Frank,
There is a power supply available from Digitrax as I got mu PR3 with the optional power supply.
Paul
On 9/16/2019 4:20 AM, Frank Rich via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello All
I have learned that I cannot program any engines w/ JMRI on my program track.? JMRI works fine when I program on the main.
I believe my PS14 power supply (with a Power Pax) is to low
Can someone suggest an 18volt power supply to try?
Thank You
Frank
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Frank,
There is a power supply available from Digitrax as I got mu PR3
with the optional power supply.
Paul
On 9/16/2019 4:20 AM, Frank Rich via
Groups.Io wrote:
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Hello All
I have learned that I cannot program any engines w/ JMRI on my
program track.? JMRI works fine when I program on the main.
I believe my PS14 power supply (with a Power Pax) is to low
Can someone suggest an 18volt power supply to try?
Thank You
Frank
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I had my Pi's before I got into JMRI. I was just using my DCC system standalone. I got my Pi's (2, 3B and 3B+) to get back into Linux. I installed various HATs. Then I found out about JMRI and tried it with my netbook, notebook (running various versions of Windows and my Mac. Once I figured out the nuts and bolts I put it on a Pi and have had more fun pulling out UP5's (not needed) except for two just in case. I installed JMRI and added to my men because I like a bare desktop.
On Sunday, September 15, 2019, 07:47:15 PM GMT-4, Roger Merritt <merritt_roger@...> wrote:
Dave,
? ? ?How are you loading JMRI since I've been downloading just the image file?
Roger
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Re: BLI Paragon 2 and 3 reading
Marc, I played around with audio feedback only on my BLI centipede, which I had already finished reading at that point.
I¡¯m away from my computer for a few days but will report back by next weekend on another BLI on how helpful it is to turn off audio feedback before reading the complete decoder.
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On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:28 PM, Dave Heap < dgheap@...> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 10:36 PM, Dave Heap wrote:
The only mention of CV 217 was in an email on this thread:
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Dave... That thread is this thread : -)?
Sorry, my unclear way of putting it. I should have said "the current thread".
Dave in Australia
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Re: SECTIONS TABLE NEW BUG
Hi Dave,
as soon as I hit "update" to the section, and have the message log open, i get a long-winded error.
It also throws up a window with the same error.
I can provide a screenshot, however the first error is:
java.lang.Error: Cannot call invokeAndWait from event dispatcher thread
followed by about 20 others.
most of the errors finish with (unknown source).
If you'd like a sccreen shot, please let me know the best place to send/put that.
--
Thanks
Mitch
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Re: MRC Prodigy Advance Error
I think this is fixed by PR 7427 (), but I don¡¯t have hardware to check it. If anybody can build that branch and test with hardware, I¡¯d be grateful. Otherwise, I¡¯ll merge it, perhaps tomorrow, and it¡¯ll be in development installers to check. Bob On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:29 AM, kensmerka via Groups.Io <kensmerka@...> wrote:
[main]
2019-09-15 18:23:24,697 ptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler ERROR - Uncaught Exception caught by jmri.util.exceptionhandler.UncaughtExceptionHandler [AWT-EventQueue-0]
java.lang.NullPointerException
at jmri.jmrix.mrc.MrcProgrammer.readCV(MrcProgrammer.java:143)
at jmri.jmrit.AbstractIdentify.readCV(AbstractIdentify.java:262)
at jmri.jmrit.decoderdefn.IdentifyDecoder.test1(IdentifyDecoder.java:90)
at jmri.jmrit.AbstractIdentify.start(AbstractIdentify.java:78) -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Hello All
I have learned that I cannot program any engines w/ JMRI on my program track.? JMRI works fine when I program on the main.
I believe my PS14 power supply (with a Power Pax) is to low
Can someone suggest an 18volt power supply to try?
Thank You
Frank
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