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Mitch,

Are there any messages in the JMRI console when the unexpected sensor behavior occurs?

Dave Sand

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:11 AM, Mitchell via Groups.Io <mitchell.scott93@...> wrote:

Tested with 4.16+R9f9aced current production release and issue is not present, worked instantly
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Thanks
Mitch


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Tim (Dave), I was away from the computer all day yesterday and I see that Dave has answered your question better than I could. Somehow your email vanished from my in box when i was writing my reply. I did want to appear not to respond !! Rick.

On 9/13/2019 11:08 PM, Dave Heap wrote:
Tim,

On 14 Sep 2019, at 9:27 AM, Tim Lux <timlux33@...> wrote:

After reading John Reinhardt's success with a Sprog 3 I'm toying with getting one. I don't know why I'd need that much current on N scale either, but why introduce another variable going to a Sprog 2.
The SPROG IIv3 has a reputation as one of the best devices for reading CVs (provided you use Direct Mode - some older firmware had a issue with Paged Mode).

Direct mode is best for modern decoders.

Dave in Australia




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Frank,

You still have not even said what DCC system that you are using. It could be something as simple as having two throttles dialed up at the same time.

Dick :)

On 9/15/2019 3:00 AM, Frank in Houston wrote:

Sorry, in my first reply I forgot to mention that I stopped the ¡°Malware¡± firewall during this attempt to run trains.?

Frank in Houston.?


Locked Re: Digikeijs, Lenz, & Panel Sensors

 

Are you trying to run both the DR5000 and the Lenz both as command stations on your layout?

Dennis


Locked Re: Release 4.17.4. Cell phone no longer controls trains

 

Frank:

As others are pointing out just how you're connected to your network will make a huge difference.

You didn't move anything just went to 4.14.4...

PC is WiFi itself or wired ethernet? If more than one access point in the WiFi with extenders or repeaters you might have gotten the portable "latched" onto a weaker signal. Unless a Mesh system portable devices can't automatically flip between stations. You can be fooled it the repeater/extender has the same name and password as the main router.

Since the device if locked onto the access point in it's OS it might not be obvious when in WiThrottle or EngineDriver when it says it sees the network.

Our club is going WiFi and with the size and radio resistant basement we needed two Mesh routers for seamless WiFi...

Jim Albanowski


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Jim -

It most certainly is issues with the wifi. ?Instead of access points, you may want to try mesh extenders.

Bob






Robert Heroux

ACCU-LITES, Inc.
12172 RT47
Suite 130
Huntley, IL 60142

Phone: 847.224.7914

NMRA Member # 143811


On Sep 15, 2019, at 07:17, James LeFevre via Groups.Io <jlefevre1@...> wrote:

This sounds suspicously like wifi network problems. Maybee dropouts or weak signals.?

I have 3 wifi access points in my house and I have to make sure that I am connected to the one in the train room or throttles are very erattic.?

My JMRI train room Mac is connected wired to the ethernet network. If I had it connected wireless then it to had to be on the train room ?wifi access point. .

None of my wifi access points serve IP addresses. They are all wired ethernet back to my VPN, firewall, router.

I have noticed on my ipads just surfing the net that they will sometime connect to a wifi accesss pint that is not closest. When that happens they usually work but really slowly.?

I can leave one area of the house with a connect to the closest accesss point and go to the other end of the house and still have a full signal strength showing on wi fi but I cannot even open a web page. If I force the device to pick a closer wifi access point everything starts working again.?

Jim


James L. LeFevre
ACC Chairman
Creekside Subdivision
2801 S 24 th St
Rogers, AR. 72758

On Sep 15, 2019, at 2:00 AM, Frank in Houston <upitrr@...> wrote:

Sorry, in my first reply I forgot to mention that I stopped the ¡°Malware¡± firewall during this attempt to run trains.?

Frank in Houston.?



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This sounds suspicously like wifi network problems. Maybee dropouts or weak signals.?

I have 3 wifi access points in my house and I have to make sure that I am connected to the one in the train room or throttles are very erattic.?

My JMRI train room Mac is connected wired to the ethernet network. If I had it connected wireless then it to had to be on the train room ?wifi access point. .

None of my wifi access points serve IP addresses. They are all wired ethernet back to my VPN, firewall, router.

I have noticed on my ipads just surfing the net that they will sometime connect to a wifi accesss pint that is not closest. When that happens they usually work but really slowly.?

I can leave one area of the house with a connect to the closest accesss point and go to the other end of the house and still have a full signal strength showing on wi fi but I cannot even open a web page. If I force the device to pick a closer wifi access point everything starts working again.?

Jim


James L. LeFevre
ACC Chairman
Creekside Subdivision
2801 S 24 th St
Rogers, AR. 72758

On Sep 15, 2019, at 2:00 AM, Frank in Houston <upitrr@...> wrote:

Sorry, in my first reply I forgot to mention that I stopped the ¡°Malware¡± firewall during this attempt to run trains.?

Frank in Houston.?


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Tested with 4.16+R9f9aced current production release and issue is not present, worked instantly
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Thanks
Mitch


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Hey guys,

I just noticed a random bug, I've had my layout working well for some time and started to do some experimentation with new transits and dispatcher.

I went to fix an error i made a while ago that never affected me. The error was i had a sections stopping sensor set as the direction sensor.
I never noticed as i hadnt used this section in automation yet.

I want to refctify the mistake (set directon sensor to nothing, set forward stopping sensor to LS6) and press update.. the button clicks, but it does nothing.

I close it, re-open it and the direction sensor has gone to nothing, the stop sensor is still nothing, and the table of entry points as disapeared. The one block in the sesion (14) is still in the top table.
I have to clear blocks and then re-add the block 14 for the table of entry points, and travel directions auto-set themselves.

I update this, without touching any sensor info, and it saves it and closes the window and i acan open and close/update this window multiple times with no issues.. but as soon as I set a stopping sensor (to any sensor i found) it clears the table of entry points and all sensor information.

I'm going to backdate JMRI and see if this happens on the current stalbe release (I run off the lastest Jenkins updates due to the latest amaizng work on Dispatcher in the recent months)

I havfe deffinitley done this task without this issue probably hunfreds of times and the end of last year, hence why I feel it's a new bug.

I will post an update when I have tested on stable release.

Thanks guys!
Mitch
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Mitch


Locked Re: Release 4.17.4. Cell phone no longer controls trains

Frank in Houston
 

Sorry, in my first reply I forgot to mention that I stopped the ¡°Malware¡± firewall during this attempt to run trains.?

Frank in Houston.?


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Frank in Houston
 

Good morning. Sorry about that.
I am using a IMac computer and last night was finally able to connect to my railroad and run a train for a short distance. Now I loose connection after a few seconds then reconnect for a few seconds and then loose connection again and this continues. ?It is just like two throttles have the same address but I have NO OTHER throttles on the railroad.?

Any my suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Frank in Houston.?


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The next obvious question is: On what hardware is the original poster wishing to update firmware?

As Marc points out, some Digitrax LocoNet-connected hardware (and some non-Digitrax hardware, too) can be updated using the "Download Firmware" feature under what typically shows up as the "LocoNet" Menu.

Note that some recent Digitrax hardware is _not_ updatable using JMRI because that hardware _requires_ a different procedure than is supported by JMRI. If JMRI is asked to read such a firmware update file, it will check the procedure required by the firmware file, and will report to the user if the required procedure is not available.

As Marc points out, some Digitrax mobile decoders allow downloading of "sound project" information, and JMRI is able to update the Digitrax sound decoder in much the same way as the Digitrax "SoundLoader" program.

So far as I can tell, the "sound project" includes information on "sound snippets and how the decoder uses them", but does not include anything along the lines of the "code which defines how the decoder behaves". So far as I know, Digitrax has not released any decoders which allow updating of that basic mobile decoder functionality. Of course, there is nothing saying that Digitrax will not release such a decoder in the future, though.

Regards,
Billybob


Locked Re: Release 4.17.4. Cell phone no longer controls trains

 

Frank,

Two preliminary questions:

  1. Can you use the Tools >> Throttles >> New Throttle menu item to obtain a screen version of a throttle and then control a locomotive from that window?
  2. Your original posting is silent concerning the computer operating system. If it is any version of windows, have you verified that the windows firewall is not blocking some communication? Since you are getting partial results, this is a long shot.

Better informed other members of this list will have more to work with if you respond.

Cliff in Baja SoCal


Locked Release 4.17.4. Cell phone no longer controls trains

Frank in Houston
 

I just downloaded 4.17.4 and installed it. ?I them started the JMRI operations and attempted to use my android phone to run a train (same train that I ran last night before installing 4.17.4}. ?Now I can call up the engine on the android phone and the phone reports the desired locomotive but the original operations screen where the contact address (example 192.168.1.117 :12090) should appear remains blank. ?Normally this is where the port (and engine address) should be displayed. ?Needless to say, I cannot run a train. ?
It is as if my computer no longer controls operation. ?I still can plug in one of my wired throttles and run trains.

ANY Suggestions?


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Martin,?

The locobuffer can be on either the protected or unprotected side and doesn't care about railsync. The manual shows the Locobuffer as only an example of something that can be trusted to be on the protected side like a booster, and unlike a Human/throttle/UP-5, which cannot. That is the Digitrax comment. That doesn't require the buffer to be on the protected side but only that it can be trusted and thus could be.?

There is more to the decision than that, depending on the importance of the role of the Acer's JMRI instance on operating the layout but in either case with Loconet over TCP you're using a very complex solution to solve a very simple problem. If using a Locobuffer at that location is not working, there are issues with the loconet wiring itself that need to be resolved as they'll be affecting other things.??

..Peter



Locked Re: Digikeijs, Lenz, & Panel Sensors

 

Mike R.
Yes.? It is consistent.? The only comment I would make is that the Digikeijs help page did not say anything about connecting to Lenz via ethernet. I am guessing this is because it doesn't work.? I don't know enough to say if this a non-supported feature of Lenz ethernet or of JMRI.

I hosted a small ops session this morning to test my configuration and it was a disaster.? Sensors worked but turnouts would stop responding intermittently.? Lenz throttles are doing weird things with Digikeijs.? CVP throttles seemed to do okay.? I am doubting if this was the right decision...


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Martin,

Where does Digitrax say this?

Dick :)

On 9/14/2019 1:36 PM, mabooker76 wrote:

The Acerpc is 75'+ away from where the Layout computer, CS and LNRP's are.? (You? have been to the layout and these units are in the opposite corners?;>)? I can run another dedicated Loconet cable to the Acerpc and according to Digitrax it should be on the protected side of an LNRP.? But my idea was that wireless should work and not have to add necessarily to the Loconet strands/ traffic?

MAB


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The Acerpc is 75'+ away from where the Layout computer, CS and LNRP's are.? (You? have been to the layout and these units are in the opposite corners?;>)? I can run another dedicated Loconet cable to the Acerpc and according to Digitrax it should be on the protected side of an LNRP.? But my idea was that wireless should work and not have to add necessarily to the Loconet strands/ traffic?

MAB


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The Acerpc is using the Loconet over TCP per the instructions for a client on the JMRI Web site.? The physical connection is WiFi.? Both systems can ping each other via IP address.? The NUC is 192.168.1.6 and the port is 1234 (the default).

Thanks,
MAB


Locked Re: Detection in JRMI with NCE Accessories

 

Dave,

On 14 Sep 2019, at 10:09 PM, Video7105 <video7105@...> wrote:

Thanks Dave for chiming in. The AIU board Gnd is connected to the Separate Accy Power Bus, on the ¡°-¡° side of the power supply. So am attaching Pin 5 also to the same Gnd on the Accy Power Bus, which is also the AIU Gnd.

Does that make my drawing correct or wrong?
As Dick has said, a bad idea. The ground wire needs to be parallel to the signal wires and go directly to the AIU ground. To do otherwise invites trouble, ranging from false triggering to voltage spike damage.

The reasons are that:
- Your input connection becomes a loop antenna prone to picking up electrical noise.
- Your earth paths (part of the loop) will likely be carrying other current, with consequent voltage fluctuations, creating nuisance triggering and possible device damage.

Dave in Australia