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Locked Re: DecoderPro move to different computer

 

Frank,

Do you mean the Operations data or the loco (decoder) roster data? Makes a
difference in which files/directories you need and which have tools to make
the export/import simpler.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked DecoderPro move to different computer

Frank in Houston
 

Hello. For several months I have been programming my locomotives on my friends computer. I just got a new computer and have loaded JMRI on it. I can easily reach the new (but with blank data) DecoderPro screen on this new computer.?
QUESTION. How do I move the decoder data from my friends computer to this new one? ?Do I copy all the files in the operations folder and use them as a replacement for the operations files I just downloaded from JMRI??

I easily find a folder for operations but cannot find one titled DecoderPro. What folder would this data be in??
THANK YOU. Frank in Katy.?


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

 

Mike H,

You said " images are all contained in the Roster directory with the
roster.xml file", that would not be right. The roster.xml file is one layer
up from the roster directory. I presume you typed wrong, but if not, this is
a sign of possible problems. It is suggested that when sharing a roster
directory between multiple profiles it is better that directory is not
within a profile. This is more a safety in case you move or remove a profile
later.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

 

Thanks, but I went through all of that. The roster images are all contained in the Roster directory with the roster.xml file. ?I went through all of my 4 profiles to make sure that in Settings they were all pointing to the correct User File location and Roster location. I have Resource directories in each Profile directory, but they¡¯re all empty.?
I have no idea what¡¯s going on, but since I appear to be the only one having this problem I¡¯m guessing it¡¯s something in my system. I do a backup before doing an upgrade. During the upgrade process is the roster.xml file recreated, and could that somehow be breaking the link to the images?
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Mike Heintzman


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

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James,

Nothing new, I reported this a few years ago and Bob looked in to and his reference explains the why it happens.?

David Klemm
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jamestrigg@... <jamestrigg@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:48:02 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami
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Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2? decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results


Locked Re: JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

Are you using a Digitrax PR3 or PR4 to do the programming? If so, see





where it talks about how those use CV128

Bob

On Aug 1, 2019, at 1:48 AM, jamestrigg@... wrote:

Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2 decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...


Locked JMRI 4.16, digitrax PR3 or PR4 Soundtraxx Tsunami

 

Greetings. I have started having problems with the Master Sound Level CV128 on SoundTraxx Tsunami2? decoders resetting to 1 or 0 when I try to test the sound installation using the trottle feature. Does any one out there have any suggestions? Win 10 , I have also tried 4.17 with the same results


Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

Thanks for the advice on how to wire switches folks though completely irrelevant to OP, he is using servo position events for Turnout feedback, no switches involved.

MERG CBUS servo modules can send an event when the servo
  • Starts its move - To make Turnout inconsistent
  • Midway position - Can be used to trigger switching frog power
  • End point reached - Turnout closed / thrown

An issue with JMRI Layout Editor logic which deals with supporting Turnout feedback ( for any hardware type ) has been confirmed with a fix uploaded.

No more posts about switches required thanks,

Steve.


Locked Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address

 

Concur with Thomas on the QSI opinion.?? I remove QSI decoders when I encounter one.?? I do DCC installs for others and I won't touch them.? Too problematic, time consuming, and fickle.??? I had one loco that came back to me 3 times, with the complaint that it wouldn't respond to commands on the individuals NCE layout, but when I placed it on my Digitrax layout ran like a champ.


Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

Yes Dave, that is exactly how I have always wired the feedback for points and when I get to wiring for JMRI will continue to do so.

Tony
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Locked Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address

 

In our club, QSI was notorious for this. Even with DC off, still happened.
Someone puts a steam Lok on the layout (Beep, Beep, shorts) and any QSI decoder is scrambled.
Sometimes a reset did not bring that decoder back to life.
I Picked up sis QSI equipped Loks from an estate. They all have a new decoder.

Surprised this happened to a Tsunami. Never had that happen to Tsunami at the club.

Thomas
DeSoto, TX?


Locked Re: Using LOGIX to set Sensor to Unknown #logix

 

Jerry,

It is not possible to set Unknown directly, but you can indirectly using a script action:


IX:AUTO:0001C1 C1
[x] R1 IF Sensor "DOIT" state is "Sensor Active"
THEN
On Change To True, Execute Jython Command Jython Command sensors.getSensor('XYZ').setKnownState(UNKNOWN).


Dave Sand

On Jul 31, 2019, at 10:55 PM, JerryG via Groups.Io <jerryg2003@...> wrote:

A month ago I posted and got no response. Do any of the Logix experts or developers out there have any thoughts on my post:

My first try at LOGIX...I'm trying to set up a LOGIX to check a sensor for being Inactive for x seconds and then set it to Unknown. I see how to check the sensor, but I don't see how to set it to Unknown (only see how to set to Active or Inactive). Also, I see Delayed Set but that isn't what I want: I want to check how long it has been in a certain state already and then set it to another state. Can I do this? Similarly, if the sensor is in the Inconsistent state for y seconds, I want to set it to Unknown.

I know how to do this with a script. Trying to see if I can do it more easily (or at all) with LOGIX.


Thanks, Jerry
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jerryg2003@...


Locked Re: Using LOGIX to set Sensor to Unknown #logix

 

A month ago I posted and got no response. ?Do any of the Logix experts or developers out there have any thoughts on my post:

My first try at LOGIX...I'm trying to set up a LOGIX to check a sensor for being Inactive for x seconds and then set it to Unknown.? I see how to check the sensor, but I don't see how to set it to Unknown (only see how to set to Active or Inactive).? Also, I see Delayed Set but that isn't what I want:? I want to check how long it has been in a certain state already and then set it to another state.? Can I do this?? Similarly, if the sensor is in the Inconsistent state for y seconds, I want to set it to Unknown.

I know how to do this with a script.? Trying to see if I can do it more easily (or at all) with LOGIX.


Thanks, Jerry
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jerryg2003@...


Locked Re: Versions 4.16 & 4.17

 

Mike,

On 1 Aug 2019, at 12:22 AM, Mike Heintzman <mikeheintzman@...> wrote:

Running Windows 10 on both machines, data is shared on OneDrive. One thing I¡¯ve noticed is that there are Roster.xml files in my older profiles (without the .jmri extension) and one of these (called no decoder) is usually what I open first to check the update. Might it be picking up this roster instead of where the real roster is? I¡¯ve looked at the various Profile Configuration documents but I can¡¯t tell if these roster files are supposed to be there or not.
- When JMRI opens, it looks for a "roster.xml" file in the "Roster Location" (refer Help->Locations). This purportedly contains an index of all ".xml" files in the "roster" folder at "Roster Location" and any attached image files.

- The "Roster Location" is usually the same as "User Files Location" and can be specific to every profile/machine or shared or any combination thereof.

- In earlier versions of JMRI, roster image files were stored in the "resources" folder in "User Files Location". Roster entries created by current JMRI versions copy the image files into the "roster" folder.

- Rebuild Roster Index writes a new "roster.xml" for the associated "roster" folder.

- If you've changed the "User Files Location"/"Roster Location" for all profiles/computers to OneDrive/Dropbox (as I have) there should be only one "roster.xml" file and "roster" folder being used by all your profiles. (There may be empty/unused copies in "Profile Location" from before you switched.)

- The presence or absence of a ".jmri" extension on a profile doesn't matter. For consistency's sake I added ".jmri" to all my old profile folder names, but there's no need to.

- The icon/image behaviour you are seeing may be because you have all/some images in a non-shared "resources" folder on some profiles/machines. This can be cured by making sure all profiles/machines are using a shared "User Files Location" (usually the same as "Roster Location") and putting the "resources" folder there (i.e. at the same level as the "roster" folder and "roster.xml".

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Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 02:11 PM, Nigel wrote:


Hi Peter/Bob

Many thanks.

I have produced a worked example panel showing the problem and created an
issue on github and uploaded the panel with it.

Nigel
For those that want to follow along:
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Locked Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address

Nick
 

Bob,

Since I don't know the circumstances prior to the loco not responding to the 4-digit address, I will make some observations based on personal experiences with Digitrax DCC systems . This is not anti-Digitrax, only observations based on my own system.

I have experienced this with early decoders and the main cause was usually because I have analog (DC) operation enabled in the decoder. When a short circuit occurs, with MY Digitrax system, I have seen decoders revert back to 2-digit addresses . This is because MY Digitrax system puts out garbage data when it attempts to recover from a short. This has been verified with a LOT of testing and the use of an oscilloscope to determine the problem. The problem is caused by a harmonic distortion in the DCC signal . It happens more frequently when several locos are active (on sidings or live trackage), but not always.

It definitely happens more frequently when the decoder has analog enabled. It makes little difference whether the decoder is ancient, as my original Soundtraxx version 1 decoder, or more recent releases. The only decoder I have not seen this happen with is (of the ones that I use), the TCS family. The decoders I have seen this happen are QSI (all versions from OEM to Titan, Soundtraxx, Lenz, and Digitrax. One of the most frequent "results" is having a loco go into Mach 4 after the short circuit as a result of the wonky DCC signal produced during the Command Station's recovery. This problem seems to be unique to Digitrax as I have never seen it happen on any of the many other types of systems I operate on.

You might want to make sure that your command station have address 0 disabled. That helps reduce the problem.

I hope this helps,
Nick Kulp

"I'm not a failure. I started at the bottom and I found it easily attainable. Life is too short to set unattainable goals"

- Nick Kulp



On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 04:56:44 PM EDT, Bob McClain via Groups.Io <mcclainbob55@...> wrote:


OK, this is strange.? I know stuff happens.? I put my engine(Walthers Proto GP-60) on an isolated programming track and started DP.? I went in and read CV 29 and lo and behold it was 2.. It was supposed to be 34.? So I changed it and the engine responded properly to its 4-digit address with both WiThrottle Lites and Digitrax DT-500 throttle.? Is possible that CV 29 spontaneously changed?? Yesterday I was running engine with WiThrottle Lite and the DT-500 when it quit responding to 4-digit address.? Is it possible the decoder(factory installed tsunami) is failng??
Thanks for any responses.
Bob


Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

While you could rewire the usual position indicating switches in series to AND them, I'd recommend keeping all turnout wiring the same, and using logic, either hardware or better yet, software, to combine the two outputs so both turnouts need to be in their end positions to make the position indicator true.

Of course, if one machine is moving both sets of points, its position switch(es) are all the feedback needed for both. Then, logic or logix could make a slave set of signals for the second turnout's position.

Don Weigt
Connecticut


Locked Re: Engine Only Responds to Short Address

 

OK, this is strange.? I know stuff happens.? I put my engine(Walthers Proto GP-60) on an isolated programming track and started DP.? I went in and read CV 29 and lo and behold it was 2.. It was supposed to be 34.? So I changed it and the engine responded properly to its 4-digit address with both WiThrottle Lites and Digitrax DT-500 throttle.? Is possible that CV 29 spontaneously changed?? Yesterday I was running engine with WiThrottle Lite and the DT-500 when it quit responding to 4-digit address.? Is it possible the decoder(factory installed tsunami) is failng??
Thanks for any responses.
Bob


Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

Hi Peter/Bob

Many thanks.

I have produced a worked example panel showing the problem and created an issue on github and uploaded the panel with it.

Nigel


Locked Re: Supporting turnouts with feedback compatibility

 

Most of these responses are doing nothing to help the OPs problem. Please try and stick to the topic.


Nigel,

As Bob J. has suggested, create an issue in github and upload your panel for a developer to review.

--
Peter Ulvestad

JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -