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Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

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Hello Marc,

Here is screen I get.

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Ken

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE

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Ken, attachements are not permitted and will not come thru.?

Either cut and paste? it's? content into this thread or upload it to the file section.

Marc

Locked Re: Controlling Servos directly connected to Arduino with DCC++ Base Station #arduino #dccpp

 

Thanks Paul,

I started this effort by reading the following section on the JMRI site …?

If I understand correctly, I should be able to run one servo directly connected to the Arduino's 5V, GND and one digital port (mine is connected to port 7). Of the three methods available with the DCC++ sketch, only the third method using the base station "Output" approach should work. This is what I have done, and everything looks great in JMRI, but the servo never moves.

But I get your concern about the PWM. As I watch the DCC++ traffic monitor I see only a "Low" then "High" state for the JMRI turnout. And when I hold the servo next to my ear, I hear a "click" when I send the command in JMRI to go "closed" or "thrown".

Is there any way I can overcome this in the DCC++ sketch?

Richard
Locked Re: Cantons / Stop trains in block with red signal

 

@Dennis

Thank's for your explain, but the question only for DecoderPro as you said :
"Decoder Pro might give you the answer also if it has the feature for you to activate."
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Can you explain to me how to check with DecoderPro,?in which tab ?
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Thank's
Locked Re: Controlling Servos directly connected to Arduino with DCC++ Base Station #arduino #dccpp

 

Hello,
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I don't really understand. Did you connect your servo to the same Arduino as DCC++?
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Did you change the code? Because a servo works very well with an arduino other than the DCC++, the code receives the servo ID and it works.
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But DCC+++ AND servo on the same arduino....
Locked Re: DP feature request

 

On Jul 23, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Jim Kirwan via Groups.Io <cact25@...> wrote:
Is it possible to add a column/field on the roster sheet for a consist address and have DP fill it in if the loco has a consist address. Thanks.
This is certainly possible, but It may not be very reliable.

You are much more likely to change the consist address than the locomotive primary address, and there are many ways to change CV19 without JMRI’s knowledge. In most of those cases, we have no means to verify the current contents of the CV without putting the decoder on the programming track. (The exception is if you have hardware installed that can read CV values on the main ( such as RailCom )).

Paul
Locked Re: Controlling Servos directly connected to Arduino with DCC++ Base Station #arduino #dccpp

 

Thanks Seth,

I thought of this too, but was led to believe that you could run one servo directly connected to the Arduino's 5V supply and there would be enough current. Two or more … yes, a separate supply is required.

I have checked the voltage to the servo and have a full 5V.

Richard
Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

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Hi Marc,

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I did a snip of the screen and I see it is now a jpeg in my Download folder. How do I upload it to the file section?

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Ken

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE

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Ken, attachements are not permitted and will not come thru.?

Either cut and paste? it's? content into this thread or upload it to the file section.

Marc

Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

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Hello Again,

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The NCE USB interface is connect through the COMM4 port. When I load DecoderPro following screen appears which I have attached. Prior to getting Windows 10 I had Windows 7 Pro and JMRI worked. What do I need to check? How do I determine if USB interface is working?

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Ken Skopp

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kenneth Skopp via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE

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Hello Marc,

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I found the System Console Log. I have attached it below. I now have only one NCE connection now.

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Ken Skopp

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE

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On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Kenneth Skopp wrote:

When I try to start DecoderPro I get this message in a window: “Unable to create connection "NCE2" (N2). ?Serial port COM4 is in use. Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.” I believe I have deleted “NCE2(N2).

Do you have a good reason to have a second NCE connection ?? You believe you deleted NCE2(N2).?? Clearly it was not deleted as per this message.

That would imply NCE (first connection)? is valid and being used. ?

It would help greatly if you could provide the System Console log via cut&paste here.?

2019-07-23 05:59:00,298 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_181 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Tue Jul 23 05:59:00 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,528 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,809 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO ?- Using jmri-kyUuSdgurhNiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,903 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? ERROR - Serial port COM4 not found [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager???????? ERROR - Unable to create jmri.jmrix.nce.usbdriver.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml for [Element: <connection/>], load returned false [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager: Unable to create several of your connections. [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 jmri.InstanceManager?????????? ???????ERROR - Should not set default of type jmri.CommandStation to null value [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 managers.ManagerDefaultSelector?????? WARN? - SystemConnectionMemo for NCE (class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceSystemConnectionMemo) provides a null interface jmri.CommandStation instance [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.managers.ManagerDefaultSelector: System connection NCE provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:02,096 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing apps.StartupActionsManager: jmri.util.prefs.InitializationException: Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures. [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:05,770 throttle.PowerManagerButton?????????? INFO? - No power manager instance found, panel not active [main]



Marc

Locked Re: Exception and other errors? Blocks Signals

 

The way the masts and the speeds are supposed to work is the logic finds the
next signal. It then considers the speed (from the mast entry for that
signal aspect), the speed limit for any blocks or turnout routes between
this and that next signal. It then looks at the aspects available for this
signal and the speeds and tries to find the best match. The downside is if
the combination of paths and speeds don't find a match in the mast, it will
pick the slowest/most restrictive aspect. Every now and then, somebody has a
layout that finds a combination not matched in the masts and a quick edit is
needed.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
Locked Re: Right way to shutdown JMRI running on Raspberry Pi? #rpi

 

Bob:

There is a fix... thought I posted link to the Pi Forum page that lead to the link, now I can't quickly find the fix.

I'll try to post photo later but I added a heat sink through the top of the online Pi cases. The heat with JMRI running seems to be under better control than before the fix. Hot to touch but not into the ouch range...

It's a for sure that the Pi 4 was released ahead of the distro fully ready... Since the speed increase is noticeable it will be worth the wait for all the software to catch up.

Jim Albanowski
Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

Ken W,

It is trying to open COM4 for the NCE connection. Use the Windows Device
Manager to confirm which COM port it is using and that the driver is ok.
Plugging and unplugging the connection at the computer should make it show
up and go away from the 'Ports' list in the Device Manager. Right click on
the COMx to see if it thinks the driver install is ok. That's in the
properties.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
Locked Re: Right way to shutdown JMRI running on Raspberry Pi? #rpi

 

Jim:?? i looked at the Pi 4 a few days ago, there still seems to be some thermal issues with overheating when the CPU gets to a high rate of utilization, it isn't helping that the Pi 4 case has inadequate ventilation.??

I too want to get my hands on one but I'll wait till the issue is resolved.?? There appears to be a firmware fix in the offing to address it.??
Locked Re: Exception and other errors? Blocks Signals

 

Hi again Dave, Ken and all

Dave: I have tried your suggestion and this really helps to have a better understanding of signal mast logic. The strange routing behaviour issue at cuewait siding is still causing signal? problems, as is a similar the issue at slippery slope. This may be because I have not fully blocked the mine section and set up block occupancy sensors and signal masts for that section. I was hoping this would not be necessary. I have reverted to a earlier save of my layout which uses single head masts at the xovers and the aspects seem to function more predictably. I don't need double heads as I don't want to automatic trains to use the mining section in any event, but do need to stop auto trains from entering turning loops that are currently being used for manual mine traffic. I was using the double aspect signals to try to understand why the main line locos were reducing speed to 15 over the xover section despite green signals.? I'm not sure I have fully grasped the process behind the SML or built my layout to be compatible or at least "comfortable" with it but with help and advice from yourself and others, I'm on the way to gaining a basic understanding.

Ken: I hadn't realised this. This is great and could be the root of my issues. I can set speeds for through and diverging turnouts as you suggest and set speeds for blocks.? ?If I understand correctly, JMRI uses some formula of these two? along with pre-set speeds for signal aspects? in the file "signalspeeds.xml" to determine some speed value displayed when editing logic in? signal mast? pairs. Presumably I can edit and copy this file and change it's location to user preferences.? I'm not sure how warrants and dispatcher integrate or share speed data and tables. I haven't got as far as Warrants yet. Perhaps this will make things clearer but I haven't created a control panel yet. Do I need to do this first?? I can also, of course, set speeds in the decoder chip CVs. Does this overrule or work in conjunction with JMRI speeds (How do I make the decoder programmers work from within PanelPro?) Are there any further methods of setting auto train speed??

Thanks for reading?
I'll keep trying. Please anyone chip in with other suggestions.


StevLomax

Steve 009 in UK
Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

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Hello Marc,

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I found the System Console Log. I have attached it below. I now have only one NCE connection now.

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Ken Skopp

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of forfoum@...
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 9:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI and NCE

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On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Kenneth Skopp wrote:

When I try to start DecoderPro I get this message in a window: “Unable to create connection "NCE2" (N2). ?Serial port COM4 is in use. Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.” I believe I have deleted “NCE2(N2).

Do you have a good reason to have a second NCE connection ?? You believe you deleted NCE2(N2).?? Clearly it was not deleted as per this message.

That would imply NCE (first connection)? is valid and being used. ?

It would help greatly if you could provide the System Console log via cut&paste here.?

2019-07-23 05:59:00,298 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\log\session.log [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,327 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_181 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Tue Jul 23 05:59:00 EDT 2019 [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,528 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f3718c5 [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,809 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO ?- Using jmri-kyUuSdgurhNiaayakslegv-3f3718c5 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f3718c5 [AWT-EventQueue-0]

2019-07-23 05:59:00,903 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? ERROR - Serial port COM4 not found [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager???????? ERROR - Unable to create jmri.jmrix.nce.usbdriver.configurexml.ConnectionConfigXml for [Element: <connection/>], load returned false [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,278 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.jmrix.ConnectionConfigManager: Unable to create several of your connections. [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 jmri.InstanceManager?????????? ???????ERROR - Should not set default of type jmri.CommandStation to null value [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 managers.ManagerDefaultSelector?????? WARN? - SystemConnectionMemo for NCE (class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceSystemConnectionMemo) provides a null interface jmri.CommandStation instance [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:01,987 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing jmri.managers.ManagerDefaultSelector: System connection NCE provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:02,096 plementation.JmriConfigurationManager ERROR - Exception initializing apps.StartupActionsManager: jmri.util.prefs.InitializationException: Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures. [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Ken\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:04,939 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Ken\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]

2019-07-23 05:59:05,770 throttle.PowerManagerButton?????????? INFO? - No power manager instance found, panel not active [main]



Marc

Locked Re: Controlling Servos directly connected to Arduino with DCC++ Base Station #arduino #dccpp

 

Hi,

Are you sure that your servo is compatible with DCC++? A standard RC servo requires a pulse width modulated signal, which the arduino servo library will generate, if that's what you have used in your test sketch. ?I'm possibly wrong here but I suspect the DCC++ code just puts out a logic high or low depending on the turnout setting, which won't drive a standard RC servo.

Regards

Paul
Locked DP feature request

 

Is it possible to add a column/field on the roster sheet for a consist address and have DP fill it in if the loco has a consist address. Thanks.

Jim K
Locked Re: JMRI is broken (?)

 

Bob? Here is an update to the above problem we discussed in Jan 2019.?
I replaced my new NCE box with the old Wangrow box. I now have control of the UNK OFF ON radio button.
Next I will upgrade the JMRI version. Suppose the NCE box was defective????
The one item I did not try was to replace the PS DB9 cable to computer w/ USB cable; as the cable does currently work but newer NCE might not like PS DB9???
Locked Re: Cantons / Stop trains in block with red signal

 

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Dennis,


On 23 Jul 2019, at 6:41 AM, Dennis Cherry <dbcherry@...> wrote:

BTW: will have a Asymmetric Stopping block module soon with 4 stopping block outputs, also an expansion board to add an additional 4 stopping blocks. You can go more in increments of 4 also.

You can build your own Asymmetric Stopping block modules for less than $1 per module, using 1N5404 diodes and using this circuit:

Less difficult than attaching track droppers to your DCC bus.

Dave in Australia
Locked Re: Controlling Servos directly connected to Arduino with DCC++ Base Station #arduino #dccpp

 

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do you have enough current available??? The servo draws ~ 150mA when it's moving.?? You can turn it off once it's had a chance to stabilize.?? You may want to put the servo on an auxiliary power supply.

On 7/22/2019 6:55 AM, rsauerbrun wrote:
Hello Group,

I have an Arduino Mega with motor shield running DCC++. I also have a Raspberry Pi running Steve Todd's image. I have upgraded JMRI on the RPi to v4.16 and Java 1.8.0_65. I have the letter "D" as the connection prefix in the JMRI connection preferences.

I have a servo connected directly to the Mega with 5V, GND, and PIN15 for control. I checked the wiring and have a good 5V going to the servo. I have created an entry in the JMRI turnout table with hardware address 115 (now shows as DT115) and chose "BSOUTPUT" in the Feedback Mode chooser. I then added an output to the DCC++ base station configuration with Index 115 assigned to PIN 15.

I built a quick panel with DT115, and this seems to work OK as the icon moves when clicked, I see "closed/thrown" in the turnout table and I see the Output Cmd "Output ID: 115 low/high" in the DCC++ traffic monitor, but the servo does not move. I have tested the servo by itself using an Arduino servo sketch and it works fine.

What have I missed?

Thanks for your help,

Richard 

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Mountain View, CA
Locked Re: JMRI and NCE

 

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Hi Ken,

I recommend that you download the drivers for USB interface and reinstall them.???? I have found in the past that whenever Windows 10 installs updates the SILABS drivers have problems and need to be reinstalled.

On 7/22/2019 3:48 PM, Kenneth Skopp wrote:

Hello,

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I have JMRI connected to my layout with an NCE USB interface. I have software for the interface using COMM4. Since originally installing JMRI, I updated my computer to Windows 10. When I try to start DecoderPro I get this message in a window: ???Unable to create connection "NCE2" (N2). ??Serial port COM4 is in use. Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.??? I believe I have deleted ???NCE2(N2). When I ignore message and continue to DecoderPro and select a locomotive the following error message appears at bottom of screen: ???Service mode program NCE is offline and Operator mode program NCE is offline???. I spoke with Ed at NCE today and he said problem is with JMRI and Windows 10.

What do I do? When I had Windows 7 Pro, I was able to set up 5 locomotives.

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Thank you,

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Ken Skopp

Train Show Coordinator

Grand River Valley Railroad Club

616-667-9680

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