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Re: JAVA platform binary SE has quit working.
Billybob,
There are two more potential causes for the "JAVA Platform binary has stopped working" message when using a PR3:
One is that if you plug it into a different USB port, Windows may think it's a different device and assign a different Com port number. The other is if your USB port goes into a low-power "sleep" state.
Java handles the lack of communication with the PR3 poorly in either of those cases, and the result is that not-very-helpful "Stopped Working" message..
As for Windows 10 and the PR3, they work just fine together. And depending on how current you are with your Windows updates, you may not even need to install the Digitrax "drivers". More into on that here: <>
HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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Jack,
That's a frustrating experience!
Historically, the "JAVA Platform binary has quit working" message, when using a Digitrax PR3, is one of two things: PR3 firmware version or Windows PR3 drivers. Both are available from the Digitrax web site, in the "Downloads" section. For me, the PR3 firmware update solved my "binary stopped working" problems on a 64-bit Win7 computer.
You will want to use the "PR3 WIndows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 10 Drivers". You can use DigiIPLII (available in the "SoundLoader2" package on the Digitrax web site "Downloads" page) to find out which version of firmware you have in your PR3. Use the DigiIPLII tool's "Find Devices" button to get the firmware version information. I think it is in the "S/W" column in the "Find Devices" table. Current PR3 firmware, as available on the Digitrax web site "downloads" page is "1.0".
An additional problem sometimes crops up - some USB cables shipped with the PR3 have been known to cause USB difficulties with some computers, and replacing them often solves USB problems.
I'll leave the Windows 10-specific investigations to those who have experience with it; I have thus far been able to not even touch a Win10 machine, so don't have any experience.
Depending on what JMRI version you are using, there may be a relationship to some new interface software that has been in very recent JMRI versions - ones where the so-called "PureJavaCommunications" library is used instead of the older "RXTX" library. What JMRI version are you using? Numbers are important here, as JMRI 4.6 can be significantly different from JMRI 4.7.6!
There are other possible causes, including "corrupted" JAVA installs, "corrupted" windows installs, etc. These are less-likely causes, and should be left for later investigations if problems persist after investigating the items above.
My bet would be PR3 firmware revision, but I could be wrong...
Regards,
Billybob
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I just dug out my old Toshiba Gaming Laptop which is still running Windows Vista. Are any of the current versions of JMRI compatible with Vista, and if so, would I be able to use current definition files with that version?
The laptop still has some useful software installed, and most Windows upgrades seem to require me to wipe the hard drive clean and start anew. I don't know where most of the older software source media is anymore...
Rich Velten
Ballwin, MO
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Re: JMRI and Tsunami2 TSU-1100
I tried a clean install of both 4.6 & 4.75. Neither would talk to the PR3.
Mac OS X 10.11 Java 6.
JMRI launches fine & gives no errors after setting it to the right port.
It sees the PR3, but will not talk to it.
Thanks!!
Jay - AT&SF
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Re: JMRI and Tsunami2 TSU-1100
Could this be a Mac-specific issue?
Another user has reported experiencing the same issue when he moved a working PR3 installation from a W10 machine to an iMac: <>.
Customtraxx (George?) has reported that he's used the PR3/MacBook Pro combination in stand-alone programming mode for years with no issues, so we have to assume his JMRI preferences and physical/electrical connections are (or were) good: <>
And if I¡¯m reading his earlier post correctly, he also reported that another user at his club, apparently also a Mac/PR3 user, had the same issue: <>
Can any of the developers with a Mac and PR3 look into this from the Mac side of things? I'm not a Mac user, so I'm not able to help other than pointing out the above which seems like too much of a coincidence to me. FWIW, my PR3 is working fine with JMRI.4.7.6.R570b2bc on W10.
Steve
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I did that a few times. Still (306).
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Re: JAVA platform binary SE has quit working.
Jack,
That's a frustrating experience!
Historically, the "JAVA Platform binary has quit working" message, when using a Digitrax PR3, is one of two things: PR3 firmware version or Windows PR3 drivers. Both are available from the Digitrax web site, in the "Downloads" section. For me, the PR3 firmware update solved my "binary stopped working" problems on a 64-bit Win7 computer.
You will want to use the "PR3 WIndows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 10 Drivers". You can use DigiIPLII (available in the "SoundLoader2" package on the Digitrax web site "Downloads" page) to find out which version of firmware you have in your PR3. Use the DigiIPLII tool's "Find Devices" button to get the firmware version information. I think it is in the "S/W" column in the "Find Devices" table. Current PR3 firmware, as available on the Digitrax web site "downloads" page is "1.0".
An additional problem sometimes crops up - some USB cables shipped with the PR3 have been known to cause USB difficulties with some computers, and replacing them often solves USB problems.
I'll leave the Windows 10-specific investigations to those who have experience with it; I have thus far been able to not even touch a Win10 machine, so don't have any experience.
Depending on what JMRI version you are using, there may be a relationship to some new interface software that has been in very recent JMRI versions - ones where the so-called "PureJavaCommunications" library is used instead of the older "RXTX" library. What JMRI version are you using? Numbers are important here, as JMRI 4.6 can be significantly different from JMRI 4.7.6!
There are other possible causes, including "corrupted" JAVA installs, "corrupted" windows installs, etc. These are less-likely causes, and should be left for later investigations if problems persist after investigating the items above.
My bet would be PR3 firmware revision, but I could be wrong...
Regards,
Billybob
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I can open Panel Pro the first time I start the laptop. But when I close it and try to open it again later I get the message
Java platform binary SE has stopped working.
I'm using a VAIO and the latest JMRI. . W10. JMRI connection is PR 3. Port 4
Suggestions please,
Thanks,
Jack Eiermann
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Re: Slow loading file with JMRI 4.7.4ish
Thanks for providing the file. That helps a lot. The largest amount of time was spent re-loading some parts of the Logix user interface as the sensors were loaded. Each time, the comboboxes for selecting a sensor were being recreated from scratch. As they got larger, that got slower. PR #3715 has a proposed fix, which should be in development builds later today. Bob On Jul 3, 2017, at 11:53 AM, 'David Parks' bearwestern@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
I have posted a problem file named SensorLoad.xml in the yahoo group upload
area (via Leo).
This file contains only Internal Sensors. Windows 10
4.6.0 - manual load time about 1 seconds
4.6.0 - auto load time about 2 seconds
4.7.4ish - manual load time 41 seconds
4.7.4ish - auto load time 21 seconds
I have tried a large number of variations of this file and found that simple
numeric names with no user names load faster, but still around 50 times
slower in 4.7.4 then in 4.6.0. The empty panel is displayed to make it
easier to see when the Sensors are finished loading. We have tried the same
load test in versions later than 4.7.4 and not found a difference in timing.
The discrepancy in Load time is not unique to Sensors and follows the same
pattern with complex files with many classes of entities.
David Parks
Los Altos, CA
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Thanks for the updates folks.
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Slow loading file with JMRI 4.7.4ish
I have posted a problem file named SensorLoad.xml in the yahoo group upload
area (via Leo).
This file contains only Internal Sensors. Windows 10
4.6.0 - manual load time about 1 seconds
4.6.0 - auto load time about 2 seconds
4.7.4ish - manual load time 41 seconds
4.7.4ish - auto load time 21 seconds
I have tried a large number of variations of this file and found that simple
numeric names with no user names load faster, but still around 50 times
slower in 4.7.4 then in 4.6.0. The empty panel is displayed to make it
easier to see when the Sensors are finished loading. We have tried the same
load test in versions later than 4.7.4 and not found a difference in timing.
The discrepancy in Load time is not unique to Sensors and follows the same
pattern with complex files with many classes of entities.
David Parks
Los Altos, CA
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Re: WOW 121/ERROR (308)
Thanks Steve,?On my way to pick up a New power supply!
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John,
The 308 indicates that when the PR3 sends a programming command, it isn't hearing an acknowledgement back from the decoder. There are two likely causes.
One is that there's a bad connection somewhere between the PR3 and the decoder. It could be a loose wire somewhere, or even something as simple as the loco's wheels not making good contact with the programming track.
The other possibility is that the DC power supply you're using with your PR3 is insufficient for the WOW's programming needs. If you're using a PS12 or PS14, try something in the 16-18VDC range.
I have a WOW 121 in a Kato SD40, and my PR3 with an 18VDC regulated supply reads/writes from/to it with no issues at all.
HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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Good morning all,Recently installed a wow 121 kit into atlas locomotive. Started programming with Decoder Pro, some CV'S program with no problem, others don't seem to take programming?I.e. I try to change or remap a function, and I'll either get that (308) error message or if no message, when I try to activate the function, it doesn't work?I'm using jmri 4.6 Windows 10 ,pr3 to dedicated programming track.Any suggestions?Thanks John...
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Re: Decoder Pro inquiries
Hi Joe, Re 2): That is completely normal. Every decoder/gears/engine combination is unique - even when the models are the same and bought the same day. Wouter On 3 July 2017 at 12:15, Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers] < jmriusers@...> wrote:
The check marks are intended as an aid to manipulating a speed curve to
achieve a desired result and are not stored in either the decoder or the
roster entry.
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On 3 Jul 2017, at 9:59 am, Joebrann@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:
3. Since my speed matching lasted over several days I saved my roster
settings several times and noticed that on the speed table sheet the check marks
in the check boxes at the bottom of each speed step either didn't get
saved, or didn't get restored. Is this by design or should the check marks
and what they stand for be resorted. I would like ( and sorta excepted) that
they would be restored.
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Re: WOW 121/ERROR (308)
John,
The 308 indicates that when the PR3 sends a programming command, it isn't hearing an acknowledgement back from the decoder. There are two likely causes.
One is that there's a bad connection somewhere between the PR3 and the decoder. It could be a loose wire somewhere, or even something as simple as the loco's wheels not making good contact with the programming track.
The other possibility is that the DC power supply you're using with your PR3 is insufficient for the WOW's programming needs. If you're using a PS12 or PS14, try something in the 16-18VDC range.
I have a WOW 121 in a Kato SD40, and my PR3 with an 18VDC regulated supply reads/writes from/to it with no issues at all.
HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"
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Good morning all,Recently installed a wow 121 kit into atlas locomotive. Started programming with Decoder Pro, some CV'S program with no problem, others don't seem to take programming?I.e. I try to change or remap a function, and I'll either get that (308) error message or if no message, when I try to activate the function, it doesn't work?I'm using jmri 4.6 Windows 10 ,pr3 to dedicated programming track.Any suggestions?Thanks John...
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Re: Latest test version isues
John,
If you upload your panel xml file to the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn area, I can take a look at your issues.
Dave Sand
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Ken, Peter,
Maybe Peter is referring to the destination drop down box after selecting Move. If there are no entries with an empty user name, that box will be empty.
It takes extra effort to create a signal mast with no user name.
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Good morning all,Recently installed a wow 121 kit into atlas locomotive.?Started programming with Decoder Pro, ?some ?CV'S program with no problem, ?others don't seem to take programming?I.e. I try to ?change or remap a function, and I'll either get that (308) error message or if no message, ?when I try to activate the function, ?it doesn't work?I'm using jmri 4.6 Windows 10 ,pr3 to dedicated programming track.Any suggestions?Thanks John...
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Re: Problem getting anything to work - JMRI V4.6
Dave/Bob and all.
Problem resolved thank you - though I am not sure what the exact problem was in the end. ?I spoke to the supplier of the USB interface who asked what the address was of the Procab. ?It turned out to be set to the same address as the interface (03) so needed to be changed. ?I don't remember changing it from 03 when I installed the interface two years ago and JMRI has been working since then, but perhaps I did. ?If so, I don't know how it reverted to 03. ?Anyway, i changed it to 04 and opened up another problem: ?clicking on a point in JMRI changed it on screen but not on the layout - but also set in motion one of my trains - as it happens with an address starting with 4. ?Thinking that that might mean the JMRI throttles were working, I tried them - but they were not. ?I changed the Procab adderss to 05 without any effect. ?I swapped the cable between the interface and the SB3 - no change. ?In the end, I reverted to the old method - switch off and reboot. ?Now everything works and my Procab is set to address 04. ?What a dark art this world of electronics is!?
Kind regards,Harold.
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On Monday, July 3, 2017 12:22 PM, "Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? The EB1 will not have any effect on JMRI. It would assist us greatly if you were to restart JMRI, try to use a JMRI throttle, then go to the Help->System Console Menu item from the main DecoderPro window, click on Copy To Clipboard and paste into a post for us all to see. Also please observe and report back whether you see any LED activity on the NCE USB and whether any LED remains stuck on. -- Dave in Australia On 3 Jul 2017, at 7:21 pm, Harold Thompson haroldthompson157@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: You are correct - therre is a communications problem between JMRI and the layout; I have bypassed the EB1 and the problem remains. I can see nothing wrong with the preferences - indeed if I change any of them I get a red error message. I must admit that I don't really understand the other settings so wouldn't know whether or not they are correct but I have not chnged any of them since I last used JMRI. Using the cabs, everything wroks correctly so the connections between them and the layout must be correct. Regarding connections from the computer, there is a USB cable to the interface; from the interface there is a coiled cable to a splitter that connects to the SB3a and the Procab. I have heard that the splitter can cause a problem so I removed it and connected the coiled cable direct to the SB3a - made no difference. 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Peter,
I'm on Win10 and I just right-click on the user name and I get the drop down
with choices like 'move'. So I'm not sure why you would not be getting that.
You already have usernames assigned??
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Bob Jacobsen
John Barone
Ken Cameron