Before last week we were using a DCS 200 and we always clear the slots with JMRI alone no interaction with the command station. It should be the same with the DCS 240 because the option is present in JMRI.

Jacques

I just had a look at the definitions shipped and the docs for updating them. This is beyond my skill with XML to mess around with.
I don't suppose that a tool exists to simplify this process a bit? Other than a text editor of course...

The code in JMRI that creates the Throttle messages to the EasyDCC command station knows _nothing_ of the decoder type. No matter what decoder type is out there, in JMRI’s roster or not, JMRI will send the same message to the command station given the same address and same speed/function/whatever content.

The problem is somewhere in the EasyDCC command station, EasyDCC throttles, and/or decoders themselves.

The ones where it seem to work and then stop or are changed are almost certainly due to another throttle sending conflicting commands. Physically disconnect _all_ the EasyDCC throttles, remove the batteries from any that have them, reset (power off/on) the command station, and see if that class of problems remains.

Bob

On Sep 21, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Don Weigt <dweigt47@...> wrote:

I now have a printout of the JMRI to EasyDCC commands for two locos. One with a year old basic NCE decoder using long address 349 works. One with a Lenz LE103 using long address 1477 does not. I will try decoding them on paper to look for errors.

What I did was try to run forward, stop, run backward, stop, turn the light (CV0) on and off. Those should be easy to decode manually on paper.

Sorry to add confusion, but after reprogramming the LE103 in 1477, it now was sometimes able to switch the headlight on using CV0. It only seemed possible while the EasyDCC Command Station was still circulating the packet from the EasyDCC throttle that turned it off. This was right after unplugging the EasyDCC throttle.

I'd use JMRI to turn on the light, a couple seconds later it would turn off. I'd be able to turn the light back on, I think by pressing the light command twice on the JMRI throttle to get another "off to on" packet generated. After a second or two, it would turn off again. Once about two minutes had passed, and the other packet was cancelled, I couldn't control the light with JMRI. At no time could I make the loco move, forward or backward with JMRI.

I may have to build one of those Arduino based packet sniffers. Data would reduce the number of possible explanations. I appreciate all the analysis, but it's getting confusing. With data to compare to that analysis, some understanding might follow quickly.

If it were only the LE103s that didn't work, I might just replace them with the Zimos MX60 somethings I bought years ago. But, the one Zimo equipped loco I have tried has also not worked right. I could control functions, but not speed and direction. That may be something more easily solved.

I keep hoping I'm one "Ah hah!" moment from a solution. It's beginning to seem I'm just wasting more and more time. But, those decoders were Standard compliant when new, and they SHOULD work! I didn't imagine I might have to replace all my decoders with newer ones to use JMRI....

Don Weigt
Connecticut

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Bob Jacobsen
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Unfortunately, my earlier upload had the wrong checksum in the LocoNet message.

It seems that I was not careful enough.

A corrected version has been uploaded to replace the previous attempt.

Even if the script execution is not useful for a DCS240, maybe my wordy comments can be useful.

For personal reasons, I choose not to participate in the discussion of the need to physical throw the toggle switch. Our club layout and workbench Digitrax installations both are always initialized with that action.

Cliff

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I can confirm that this JMRI web site issue is resolved as of very late US Eastern Standard time Friday nite.

Regards,
Billybob

Marc,

Are you using Slot Monitor's "clear all slots" pushbutton, or are you modifying command station OpSw36 in your test?

I ask because the Slot Monitor "clear all slots" pushbutton _does not_ fiddle with command station OpSw36. I just want to ensure that you are not conflating these two _different_ mechanisms!

Regards,
Billybob

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Paul

A pick-up and a set out is 2 moves.. Set your moves to 4 and you s/b ok.

Jim E.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 06:45 PM, <haltz@...> wrote:

Thanks, Nick. I now understand the naming a bit better. But I'm unable to find
the xml files for the tutorials. I see no reference to them on the mentioned
site, and on? there
is a link to download each of the three tutorial xml files, but when I click
on it, either on my Windows PC or on my iPhone, I get a blank screen and
nothing downloads. How can I contact you off-list? Thanks.

As per the directions above the file links, you must save the files. copied below

If using Firefox, right click on the link and select "Save Link As" and place it in a convenient directory to load from JMRI.
If using Internet Explorer, right click on the link and select "Save Target As" and place it in a convenient directory to load from JMRI.
If using Safari on a Mac, right click on the link and select "Download Linked File As..." as shown. Safari screen shotPlace it in a directory convenient to load from JMRI.

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G'day, I've just added a 74120 to my collection of decoders without checking to see if it was supported first--oops!
Since it isn't, is there support for it in the pipeline, and in the meantime, is there some way I can get control of it to at least change the address?
I can run it on ops using address 3 but can't change anything, I just get 308 errors. The defaults aren't so bad but the default address will not do.
Adding decoder support seems to be fairly involved, but I could possibly have a swing at it myself if someone can point me to how this is done.
I have all the docs with the decoder of course, but no real idea how JMRI stores this info. Could I perhaps use the existing 76425 definition as a starting point?
Thank you!
Charles

Hi. I just joined the group because I am new to JMRI (and model railroading) and have questions about the program.

I have a location with one spur long enough to hold two flatcars. All my trains (so far) stop at this location. I have the move count set to two at this location and pick-up and drop off are enabled. The spur only accepts loaded flatcars. Also, random is set to off. However, the program creates switch lists which only have one move at that location when two are possible.?
The only thing I can think of is it has something to do with the fact that the train length in settings is set to the length of trains I will want to run when the layout is finished and I have all the rolling stock I will need (right now I probably have less than half). Does the program prioritize train length (that is to say try to keep the staging tracks being used full) over car movement?

I would love to hear any ideas any of you have about why this happens. Thanks

Paul

Thanks, Nick. I now understand the naming a bit better. But I'm unable to find the xml files for the tutorials. I see no reference to them on the mentioned site, and on?http://www.quaker-valley.com/CTC/JMRI_Panel_Tutorial.html there is a link to download each of the three tutorial xml files, but when I click on it, either on my Windows PC or on my iPhone, I get a blank screen and nothing downloads. How can I contact you off-list? Thanks.

Marc,

On 21 Sep 2019, at 1:37 AM, forfoum@... wrote:

You are a tad confusing. " CV1 and CV 66 are both short addresses " But I do follow what you are getting at and I had stated same as you in earlier response to thread.

Sorry, what I should have said is that "the numbers stored in CV1 and CV19 are both short addresses".

Dave in Australia

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Hal,

Do not be fooled into thinking that SSL is simpler than aspect based signaling. It most definitely is not. The 'Simple' in the name means Simplistic, not easy. You wind up having to do strange things and add invisible signals to do even easy things like crossovers properly. It was all that was originally available in JMRI until things got advanced enough so that JMRI could follow actual prototype rules. Now that JMRI can use actual signal rules for different railroads, using SSL is sort of like filling out your taxes with quill pen and abacus instead of getting a copy of Quicken because you want to keep things 'simple'.

There is no more reason to understand the details of the aspect based signaling control files than there is a need to understand your ECU in order to drive to work.

Dick :)

The program calculates how many lines should fit.? Could you try printing to a pdf file and see if all of the lines are there?? Seems like a printer issue.

Dan

I have my Manifests ready to print. ?First I want to print my CAR FILE. ?When I do print the car file (or my manifests) the page layout is larger than a normal page of printing and I lose the last line which should be printed. ?I am using the latest release 4.17.4?

How do I control the number of lines that will be printed PER PAGE on a multiple page document. ?I have selected the 4.5 - 11 option. ?I need to increase the space of the borders so I do not lose data to be printed. ?When I print the MANIFESTS I do not print the last line to be printed and it DOES NOT carry over to the next page,

THANK YOU....FRank in Houston

Jacques,

The same OpSw 36 problem has been around since DCS 100/200 and our club has been working on that issue for several years. With a lot of help from Billybob and several other members on this group, we have come to the conclusion that a combined script and manual activity is mandatory. The script is automatically run in the Start Up sequence.

Most of script code deals with a GUI that provides a dialog window that instructs the person to flip a toggle switch on the front of the command station, and to some extent also detects that the person has probably completed that activity.

Since both a jython subfolder and a resources subfolder that cumulatively contain three files are involved a zip file has been uploaded for your review.

Without any experience using a DCS 240, it is impossible for me to believe that these could be used without serious modification. However, at least some of this information may provide you with some clues.

Cliff in Baja SoCal

Thanks all for the clarifications. I'll try to digest it all (with a Tums or two), but for now, since I'm just starting with signalling, I think I'm gong back to SSL and signal heads. Thanks again! Hal