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Re: Still not printing readable pages
The safest procedure to transfer roster entries is to go to the "Help->Locations->Open Roster Location" menu item. There will be a "roster" folder and a "roster.xml" (simply an index file) in the window that opens. Put the individual xxx.xml roster entry files into that "roster" folder.
Then you can use "Rebuild Roster Index" to create a new "roster.xml" index file from all the files in the "roster" folder.
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Dave in Australia
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On 11 Aug 2017, at 5:48 AM, katmedia@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
I did save the old Roster entries which have extensions of .xml and .xml.bak. I only have the two locos in a roster as of now. I tried doing the import roster and the rebuild roster but nothing happens. I have moved the actual files into the Roster directory under My_JMRI_Railroad but still the roster comes up blank.
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Re: DDA40X Dual DCC Controllers won't work
You are obviously not programming both decoders correctly.
Since you say the two decoders and motors are completely isolated from each other (connected to separate bogies), there is no need to use decoder locking at all.
- Put the front bogie only on the the program track. Disable decoder locking in that decoder and program it as desired, with the desired 4 digit loco address.
- Test that part of the loco (bogie 1, decoder 1 and motor 1). Get that right before doing anything else.
- Put the rear bogie only on the the program track. Disable decoder locking in that decoder and program it as desired, with the same 4 digit loco address as decoder 1
- Test that part of the loco (bogie 2, decoder 2 and motor 2). Get that right before doing anything else.
-Put your entire loco in contact with the track and it should run fine.
- Once you have finished all your setting up, I would reconnect the two bogies so you get reliable pickup and don't have one dragging another.
- As Walt says, why did you use two decoders? Simply paralleling the two motors onto one decoder is a commonly used technique and works fine, even with BEMF (provided the motors are identical models).
- If the answer to the above was "excessive current draw", you would have been far better off to use a LokPilot V4.0 as your rear motor driver. The CVs in a LokPilot V4 are an identical subset of the CVs in a LokSound Direct or V4. So you could simply program both in parallel (once you have read and stored all CVs from the Sound Decoder) and then written them to the Silent Decoder (the unsupported ones are simply ignored). The LokPilot decoders are deliberately designed to match well with the LokSound decoders.
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On 11 Aug 2017, at 12:08 AM, 5lnlyishzxstxtsfvind7xfatjliaehup6ojc2pi@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Assigning CV15 to any value other than 2 has no effect, the motor decoder doesn't work. I know the motor is getting power because when I place it on the programming track and program the motor gives the appropriate feedback acknowledging data received.
I'm still stuck. On 9 Aug 2017, at 2:41 AM, 5lnlyishzxstxtsfvind7xfatjliaehup6ojc2pi@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Both decoders work fine and are brand new. Each decoder has separate track pick up wires wired to it, so decoder 1 picks up track power from the front trucks, decoder 2 picks up track power from the rear trucks.
When I program both decoders to the 4 digit loco address only the sound decoder will drive it's motors
When I assign the secondary decoder a separate 4 digit address and consist it with the first decoder, only the first decoder motor works.
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Re: Still not printing readable pages
Rick,
I don't use "Import Roster". With neither DecoderPro or PanelPro running (both shutdown), I copy the individual roster xml files to the roster folder, start DecoderPro and select "Actions >> Recreate Roster Index".
Dave Sand
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"roster.xml" does not contain all your loco roster entries. It is simply an index file (containing a few key elements) of the individual "xxxx.xml" roster entry files in the "roster" folder, which is found in the same place as "roster.xml".
You need the "roster" folder, with all its individual "xxxx.xml" roster entry files. Then you use "Rebuild roster index" to create a new "roster.xml".
Transferring just "roster.xml" will make all your locos seem to be in your roster, but all the data (CV values etc.) will be missing and these entries for non-existent files will disappear next time JMRI rebuilds the roster index.
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On 11 Aug 2017, at 3:53 AM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Never mindmy previous question. I found roster.xml with the 2017
date. That 4.xml was just for the one engine. So I can just exchange
one roster.xml for the other, right?
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Re: Still not printing readable pages
Ken... following Dave's instructions I now have JMRI working under both the ADMIN and my windows profiles.
I did save the old Roster entries which have extensions of .xml and .xml.bak. I only have the two locos in a roster as of now. I tried doing the import roster and the rebuild roster but nothing happens. I have moved the actual files into the Roster directory under My_JMRI_Railroad but still the roster comes up blank. I believe at this point I will have to use the two locos on the programming track to rebuild the roster. I don't know why the roster won't rebuild with the back-up files. I have also used the import roster feature but again nothing happens.
At this point, my one problem has been fixed in that I can now run Decoder Pro under my own windows sign-in.
After I rebuild the roster with the actual locos using my SPROG, then I will try to do the print out of the loco CV's and the Summary.
Wish me luck!!
I'll keep you posted...
Thanks .. Rick Bell
Montrose, CO.
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Re: Still not printing readable pages
Normal is the printer setting.. I have used this setting on all 3 printers tested.
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Re: Cats Designer will not start (windows 10)
You are missing the file called "log4j.jar"
Been there done that as the saying goes.
The latest JMRI versions no longer load with that file as it is no longer needed by JMRI I've been told.
You should have this file in a saved JMRI version. Find it, copy it, place it on your desktop in a folder so when you load never JMRI versions, you can always add the log4j.jar file.
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Dave
Trempealeau WI
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I know this might sound odd, but what are your settings for the printer set for. I know printers do not like "fast draft" when printing things from JMRI. Normal always works.
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Trempealeau WI
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Why not just use the Loksound to control both motors?
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Re: Still not printing readable pages
I think making sure JMRI is correctly installed is important right now.
Having to run via admin isn't right. What happens when you try run JMRI from
your account??
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Jon M,
I suspect that is for a loco number 4. It is the loco entry in the roster.
Opening the file with a text editor should show the top of the file. If the
first couple of lines show something about 'locomotive' then it is a loco.
But if the first couple of lines talk about 'roster', then it is a roster
index. You don't want to move that, use the 'Rebuild roster index' to make
sure it matches the contents of the roster directory.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Never mindmy previous question. I found roster.xml with the 2017
date. That 4.xml was just for the one engine. So I can just exchange
one roster.xml for the other, right?
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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
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JMRI 4.8 Panel load error
Testing JMRI 4.8 I tried to load a panel that works correctly in 4.2.1 and gets a Panel Load error message box in 4.8. Checking the System console I find an error message about a failure creating a Signal Mast due to a missing Signal Head. Checking the Signal Head table I find that the Signal Head is not missing and the Signal Mast in question does reference it correctly. What I did eventually realize is that the User Name for the Signal Head is written as 2 character strings separated by 2 spaces, eg. 1S4 B. It is referenced this way by the Signal Mast definition (I examined the XML file to be sure) the same way, eg. 1S4 B. I have many Signal Heads with similar names but the parts are only separated by 1 space. This one (actually I found 2) names with the double space was created accidentally this way but all the internal references used it that way. Since it is a username, I can't see it as any kind of violation.
This has worked Okay for several previous versions of JMRI but now fails in 4.8. Why?
Regards,
Dale Gloer
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Hello Ken...
Installed the latest JMRI 4.8 as directed.
1. Will not run under my windows login as Rick Bell
2. WILL run under the ADMIN windows login user.
3. Can SEE everything but when printing from a selected loco in the roster, I get to the preview of selecting functions or CV's and I try to print all CV's but all I get are the same "ant tracks" too small to read.. I cannot even use a magnifying glass to guess as to what size the font is. Again tried landscape and portrait modes.. no change.
Another person here suggested saving my roster data then removing all traces of JMRI and starting over with just version 4.8.
I don't know if the two problems are related to each other, the ADMIN run versus the no run under my login and the printing, but the printing problem can only be tested under ADMIN since I obviously can't run JMRI under my login even though that is where I downloaded and installed it.
I'm not sure what sort of data to try to supply folks here. I am NOT a coder/programmer so for me to dig into the code of JMRI is groping in the dark!!
Thanks for your time on this...ALL OF YOU HERE!!
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Also when installing using administrator mode, select "Install for all users" or whatever the phrase is, as you will only be able to use it in when logged in as administrator otherwise.
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Hi Dave,
If you distribute this sequence of actions, I would strongly suggest moving
step #3 to before #1. People don't necessarily read carefully, or indeed
ahead. They might end up removing their user data if step 1 is executed in
'over-zealous mode'.
Wouter
On 10 August 2017 at 17:57, dave@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:
Rick,
Since I don't have Win10, I can only offer some recommendations. I
have to use Win7 terminology.
Previously you mentioned that the Java version was "JAVA
jdk-7u80-windows-x64".
You also mentioned that you upgraded JMRI from version 3.?? to 4.6.
You also had issues running as a user and had to use an admin id.
This is what I would try, as the admin user:
1) Use "Control Panel >> Uninstall a program" to remove ALL copies of
Java and JMRI.
2) Use File Manager to verify that C:\Program Files\JMRI is gone. Also
check the WinXP version of program files if it exists.
3) The JMRI user data (such as decoder definitions) will be at
C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. Make sure that this is safely backed up. DO
NOT delete it, but rename it to something like JMRI-save.
4) Reboot Windows
5) Go to java.com and install the latest Java
6) When the install is done, open a cmd window and enter "java -version".
You should see
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Administrator>java -version
java version "1.8.0_144"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_144-b01) Java HotSpot(TM)
Client VM (build 25.144-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
C:\Users\Administrator>
7) Go to jmri.org and install JMRI 4.8 (this will get you the latest
decoder definitions). I use all of the default install options.
8) Switch to your normal user.
9) Start DecoderPro. Setup your connection information. Save and restart.
10) Stop DecoderPro.
11) Copy the roster directory from JMRI-save (or sub directory) to
C:\Users\<username>\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.
12) Start DecoderPro.
13) Select Actions >> Recreate Roster Index
14) Test printing
Warning: Upgrading Java may impact other Java based programs.
This seems like a lot of work. The goal is to eliminate as many
variables as possible by doing a clean start.
Dave Sand
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I have a roster on an old XP machine. It's named 4.xml._
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_[I determined this by making changes and then saving after fixing the
date in the XP computer]_
To move the roster to a new computer do I just exchange the 4.xml
to the same place (current roster) in the new computer after renaming it
roster.xml?
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For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
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Hi Dave, If you distribute this sequence of actions, I would strongly suggest moving step #3 to before #1. People don't necessarily read carefully, or indeed ahead. They might end up removing their user data if step 1 is executed in 'over-zealous mode'. Wouter On 10 August 2017 at 17:57, dave@... [jmriusers] < jmriusers@...> wrote:
Rick,
Since I don't have Win10, I can only offer some recommendations. I have to
use Win7 terminology.
Previously you mentioned that the Java version was "JAVA
jdk-7u80-windows-x64".
You also mentioned that you upgraded JMRI from version 3.?? to 4.6.
You also had issues running as a user and had to use an admin id.
This is what I would try, as the admin user:
1) Use "Control Panel >> Uninstall a program" to remove ALL copies of Java
and JMRI.
2) Use File Manager to verify that C:\Program Files\JMRI is gone. Also
check the WinXP version of program files if it exists.
3) The JMRI user data (such as decoder definitions) will be at
C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. Make sure that this is safely backed up. DO NOT
delete it, but rename it to something like JMRI-save.
4) Reboot Windows
5) Go to java.com and install the latest Java
6) When the install is done, open a cmd window and enter "java -version".
You should see
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Administrator>java -version
java version "1.8.0_144"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_144-b01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.144-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
C:\Users\Administrator>
7) Go to jmri.org and install JMRI 4.8 (this will get you the latest
decoder definitions). I use all of the default install options.
8) Switch to your normal user.
9) Start DecoderPro. Setup your connection information. Save and restart.
10) Stop DecoderPro.
11) Copy the roster directory from JMRI-save (or sub directory) to
C:\Users\<username>\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.
12) Start DecoderPro.
13) Select Actions >> Recreate Roster Index
14) Test printing
Warning: Upgrading Java may impact other Java based programs.
This seems like a lot of work. The goal is to eliminate as many variables
as possible by doing a clean start.
Dave Sand
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Rick,
Since I don't have Win10, I can only offer some recommendations. I have to use Win7 terminology.
Previously you mentioned that the Java version was "JAVA jdk-7u80-windows-x64".
You also mentioned that you upgraded JMRI from version 3.?? to 4.6.
You also had issues running as a user and had to use an admin id.
This is what I would try, as the admin user:
1) Use "Control Panel >> Uninstall a program" to remove ALL copies of Java and JMRI.
2) Use File Manager to verify that C:\Program Files\JMRI is gone. Also check the WinXP version of program files if it exists.
3) The JMRI user data (such as decoder definitions) will be at C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. Make sure that this is safely backed up. DO NOT delete it, but rename it to something like JMRI-save.
4) Reboot Windows
5) Go to java.com and install the latest Java
6) When the install is done, open a cmd window and enter "java -version". You should see
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Administrator>java -version
java version "1.8.0_144"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_144-b01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.144-b01, mixed mode, sharing)
C:\Users\Administrator>
7) Go to jmri.org and install JMRI 4.8 (this will get you the latest decoder definitions). I use all of the default install options.
8) Switch to your normal user.
9) Start DecoderPro. Setup your connection information. Save and restart.
10) Stop DecoderPro.
11) Copy the roster directory from JMRI-save (or sub directory) to C:\Users\<username>\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.
12) Start DecoderPro.
13) Select Actions >> Recreate Roster Index
14) Test printing
Warning: Upgrading Java may impact other Java based programs.
This seems like a lot of work. The goal is to eliminate as many variables as possible by doing a clean start.
Dave Sand
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Re: CTI-Electronics Acela Interface Connection
I'll try to test it when the release hits. I'm on vacation starting next week, so I may be gone.
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Re: CTI-Electronics Acela Interface Connection
Kenneth U and Victor G,
We seem to have a fix worked out by one of the developers. It is in the
automated test phase right now. We hope to have it in the 4.9.2 version that
should become released in the next week. Since none of the developers have
the hardware, we will hope this lets you folk give a real test.
If it works for you the thanks will be to Egbert B who did the work on the
code. I was just trying to isolate where it was failing.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Ken Cameron
Dale Gloer