There is a POM mode I think is called 'blast', which programs ALL the decoders on the system at once.
No idea why that was thought a benefit feature, but using blast mode by mistake is a fast way to bugger up all loks on the layout.
Regular POM requires a valid address for the decoder to be modified. Blast does not.
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Set the address on programming track, always.
If you cannot read/write a decoder address on the programming track, check if a decoder is even installed.
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Bob,
The faded blue denim looks good to me. Given a choice I would get
the short sleeve version.
The reason is that most of my collection of convention shirts are
long sleeve. I wear them near daily, and the quality has varied
over the years. Some still look pretty decent. Others have their
collars in tatters. :(
I think the JMRI logo should be visualized on the different
options. It might not work as well as we think it should on a
colored background.
For example:
Duke's hand and head disappear against the cab roof, and his nose
is a barely visible red speck. Maybe the embroidery could do a
better job of a white outline around those features than my paint
program did. The digital smoke actually turned out better than I
expected it would.
Dick :)
On 5/19/2025 4:10 PM, Bob Jacobsen via
groups.io wrote:
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Daylight Sales got back to me. They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color! The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
Polo =
Denim =
Pocket t's =
Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Thanks, Dave. That was easy. No JAVA_HOME, no path stuff, nothing. Just install the DMG and it works. Someday I'd like to understand more about the nuts and bolts about how all the plumbing works, but....life it short. Maybe a task for another day.
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By the way Robert, I felt the same as you -- had to be a path problem. In fact, I think I proved it as I was able to start PanelPro from my zshell (instead of clicking on the /Appllications icon) and it seemed to work. Didn't push it very hard, tho.
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But, I'm happy to just get working again with JMRI on the new box.
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Thanks again.
Vince
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Thanks Dave, I figured as much. Another reason why I like dmg files with installers and not zip files¡
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Alex M. Postpischil
Winston-Salem, NC
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I¡¯d go with Bob¡¯s colors. But for Tee¡¯s I¡¯m also thinking Sand or Ash as other possibles. The Stone is the only other for the Polos. Everything else seems too dark. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Hmm, for some reason (maybe because I am outside USA) it won't let me look at their colours.
But the suggested default for the polo sounds good.
Daylight Sales got back to me.? They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color!? The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
? ? ? ? Polo =
? ? ? ? Denim =
? ? ? ? Pocket t's? =
? ? ? ? Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
? ? ? ? ¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Bob, the colors are fine, but I highly recommend the polo () you chose.? First of all, it has a pocket which is "required" for ops, but mostly because I have recently acquired Port Authority shirts for our PRRT&HS chapter, and for my Cresson Branch several years ago, and the guys seem to like them!? They make a very nice shirt that wears and launders well.? I'm looking forward to adding a JMRI shirt to my wardrobe.
Thanks.
John
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Would love a polo in time for the NMRA convention!
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JMRI 5.10+Rca461bd266
Java 17.0.13
Windows 11
DCC: Train Control Systems CS-105 DCC & LCC Command Station
Turnouts controlled via LCC with MP1 and MP4 switch motors
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Alex,
The Azul DMG installer puts eveything in the right place. ?The bash scripts to start PanelPro/DecoderPro use?/usr/libexec/java_home to find Java. ?
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up) Date: Monday, May 19, 2025 3:45 PM
I'm going to preface this by saying "I'm not an expert"...but I just installed JMRI 5.10 and Java 11 (JDK) the other week and the only issues I ran into was making sure my LocoBuffer-USB driver was in the Applications folder. I'm using an M1 iMac running (then OS15.4.1, now 15.5). ? From Azul I downloaded the DMG file for Java 11 and it installed itself and I am having no issues with JMRI. The DMG ran an installer that put Java where (I assume) it needed to be. ? Oddly, there is no jre folder in my JMRI folder and it is still running... I haven't had to modify file/folder paths along the way.? ? Sorry if this isn't helpful, but I hope maybe it is... -- -alex- Alex M. Postpischil Winston-Salem, NC
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I think the colors you have selected are good
On Monday, May 19, 2025, 4:10 PM, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io <rgj1927@...> wrote: Daylight Sales got back to me.? They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color!? The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
??? Polo =
??? Denim =
??? Pocket t's? =
??? Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
???
???
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
??? ¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
??? ¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
??? ¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
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No, just double-click on the title at of the preferences screen, and it will fill the screen and show the Save button. ?Or click the maximise button next to the red x close. ?Same effect. I assure you the Save button IS there¡.
Mick ________________________________ Mick Moignard Specialising in DCC Soundm: +44 7774 652504
The week may start M,T but it always ends WTF.
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
I'm going to preface this by saying "I'm not an expert"...but I just installed JMRI 5.10 and Java 11 (JDK) the other week and the only issues I ran into was making sure my LocoBuffer-USB driver was in the Applications folder. I'm using an M1 iMac running (then OS15.4.1, now 15.5).
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From Azul I downloaded the DMG file for Java 11 and it installed itself and I am having no issues with JMRI.
The DMG ran an installer that put Java where (I assume) it needed to be.
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Oddly, there is no jre folder in my JMRI folder and it is still running... I haven't had to modify file/folder paths along the way.?
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Sorry if this isn't helpful, but I hope maybe it is...
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Alex M. Postpischil
Winston-Salem, NC
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
Bob, For what my two cents are worth, I agree the colors you chose. ?For a little humor the Polo Shirt in Coffee Bean would have been appropriate, but it¡¯s dark and _discontinued_. I would go for a pocket-T.?
John ?Bauchiero
-?NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, Pi4, DCC-EX - JMRI 5.11.5 - Java 17.0.12
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On May 19, 2025, at 4:10?PM, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io <rgj1927@...> wrote:
Daylight Sales got back to me. ?They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color! ?The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
Polo = https://www.sanmar.com/p/112_CoolGrey?text=k500p
Denim = https://www.sanmar.com/p/2934_FadedBlue
Pocket t's ?= https://www.sanmar.com/p/1163_SportGrey
Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
https://www.jmri.org/images/logo-jmri.gif
https://www.jmri.org/community/original_icons/JMRI.png
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
I expect it is still a path problem. Since you don't have Java in a "standard" place, JMRI is not seeing it. Looking at the PanelPro start up script on my Linux system it starts with '#! /bin/bash' and the big header comment says that this script is used for all POSIX operating systems, which includes Linux and MacOS. This is a *bash* script, not a zsh script, so it is not going to have anything to do with ~/.zshrc, so it is not going to see any of your environment variable settings. What you need to do is put all of your JAVA_HOME and PATH environment variables settings in ~/.bashrc. I believe zsh and bash handle environment variables settings simularly, so just a copy/paste of that stuff should work. At Mon, 19 May 2025 13:11:35 -0700 "Vince Guarna via groups.io" <vince@...> wrote:
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia.
First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.)
After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get:
openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing)
Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog:
I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change.
I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong?
Thanks,
Vince
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Vince,
I assume that "JMRI 10" is actually "JMRI 5.10".
Remove what you have done so far.
Download the .dmg for JRE or JDK (not FX). ?Double click the .dmg and run the installer. ?That is all you need to do. Make sure you select Intel or ARM based on your hardware. ?I am using Java 21 for testing purposes.
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: [jmriusers] Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up) Date: Monday, May 19, 2025 3:11 PM
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia. ? First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.) ? After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get: ? openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing) Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog: ? ? 
? I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change. I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong? ? Thanks, Vince ?
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I'm interested, but wondering if Daylight would let us have more than one color option (while I'm OK with the grey polo I like the Ultramarine Blue better). If not, I'll get over it!
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Alex M. Postpischil
Winston-Salem, NC
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Re: Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Perhaps I should have also mentioned -- if I open a fresh console window on the mac and type "which java", I do get:
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/Users/<my login name>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx/bin/java
which is correct. I didn't get that before I installed the java distribution.
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Vince
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I would be happy with any of the colors Bob is suggesting.
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I am not color blind, I do dress myself, my wife thinks I must dress in the dark based on the choices I make.
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Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations
I'd be down for a gray polo shirt. Thanks and take care.
Cheers, Dennis Drury
Dayton, NV
The miracle is this: the more we share the more we have.
Leonard Nimoy
Daylight Sales got back to me.? They can do JMRI polo shirts, denim shirts, pocket t-shirts and/or coffee mugs.
Now we get to pick a color!? The available colors for each item are shown as swatches on these pages:
? ? ? ? Polo =
? ? ? ? Denim =
? ? ? ? Pocket t's? =
? ? ? ? Coffee mugs are white.
Note that our logo is mostly black and white, with just a touch of red:
? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?
It might not show up well when embroidered on really dark colors.
I¡¯m color blind, so give this a large grain of salt, but I suggest:
? ? ? ? ¡°Cool gray" for polo shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Faded blue¡± for denim shirts
? ? ? ? ¡°Sport gray¡± for pocket t-shirts
I¡¯m happy to follow any color consensus that emerges.
Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
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Fresh install of JMRI and Java on new Mac (Sequoia). PanelPro won't start ("To use JMRI you need to install Java 11" dialog comes up)
Sorry to be "another one of those guys" who missed something obvious. I'm trying to get JMRI 10 running on a new Mac running Sequoia.
?
First I installed the Azul version 17 LTS JDK with FX. I downloaded the zip file and put the resulting unzipped folder in my home directory under ~/bin/java and renamed the java root folder zulu-17.fx. (I did this to facilitate later, ongoing java upgrades when/if necessary.)
?
After moving and renaming the directory, I went into my .zshrc file and set JAVA_HOME to /Users/<myUserName>/bin/java/zulu-17.fx and my PATH to $JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH. I then "source"d the .zshrc file and tried java --version and get:
?
openjdk 17.0.15 2025-04-15 LTS
OpenJDK Runtime Environment Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Zulu17.58+21-CA (build 17.0.15+6-LTS, mixed mode, sharing)
Even wrote a little "hello world" java program and javac works. Seems good. I installed JMRI V10 and fired up PanelPro. I get the dialog:
?
?
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I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure no bad paths were being cached anywhere. No change.
I keep looking over the JMRI installation pages and don't see anything that looks like a step I missed. Can someone tell me what I skipped or otherwise did wrong?
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Thanks,
Vince
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Swanny
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John Bauchiero
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