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Re: JMRI and DCC++: Exception with Simple Programmer in Ops Accessory Byte/Extended Byte mode
#dccpp
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Dave,
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if?(num_bytes?<?2?||?num_bytes?>?5)?return(null);
This makes me think the DCCppMessage.java is worth updating for 6 byte packets, too :) (It is probably worth nothing to note that DCC++ code, as it seems, will not spot extra bytes in 'M' message. The sscanf template used will always try to read up to 5 or 6 parameters, and will always return maximum number, 5 or 6, even if being fed 10 or 15 parameters)
Guess you haven't got a checkout of the JMRI code?
?
I could do you a private build with that change later if need be..
No, I did not checkout JMRI sources as I plain have no idea what to do with them in the first place :) Yet if you could build a test version for me that would be awesome. Thanks a bunch! Regards Tim
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
Sorry, link omitted. On 11 Feb 2020, at 3:47 PM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
3) The problem described at the following link, possibly combined with (2) above. <> Dave in Australia
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
On 11 Feb 2020, at 3:02 PM, Thomas Greis < tomgreis@...> wrote: Thank you for your prompt reply to my situation.? Still cannot get the program to stay "online".?
Let me respond sequentially to your suggestions:
1. I had already downloaded the SiLabs driver;? the NCE website directed me to the same link you supplied.? Appears correctly in the device manager, so most likely not the issue?
Agreed.
2. "Com4" still is the only choice I have for the serial port,? but I do not have any serial ports on my computer ( HP Omen desktop )? I sense this may be the problem as I did get an list of errors the system found.
Yes, you have a Virtual Com Port, created by the SiLabs VCP driver.
3. NCE USB Adapter Jumpers - I did not change these from the way they were when I bought the card. I see nothing teling me what the proper setting should be for these 4 jumpers.? They are currently not set on any of the four pin sets ( I assume that would be considered "off " ? ) .? Should they be enabled?
That's what my instructions said "off"
4. Here is the log readout,? sorry if I started it multiple times this evening trying to get it going.
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.18+R37ad3d0 starts under Java 1.8.0_241 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Mon Feb 10 19:37:28 PST 2020 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,430 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f2a7782 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,696 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using 241b5333-8ef0-4018-a06f-19d49d6487f0 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f2a7782 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,790 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,123 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4? port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,249 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
This is the expected reply from the NCE USB and indicates all is well with COM ports, JMRI settings, and NCE USB settings.
Do not change any COM ports, JMRI settings, or NCE USB settings. If you do, all you'll do is go backwards and I'll be forced to give up trying to help you! 2020-02-10 19:38:30,720 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 9E consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
This is where things go wrong. JMRI has only been talking to the NCE USB (that's where the NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 message came from and it told me all jumpers are off).
Now JMRI has asked the NCE USB to tell the Power Cab to enter program track mode.
This hasn't succeeded. I think you'll find the CAB BUS LED (so marked) beside the RJ socket has come on and stuck on. This indicates that the NCE USB is hung up waiting for a Ping from the Power Cab.
This indicates a communications failure between the NCE USB and the Power Cab.
This could be due to: 1) Bad wiring connection via wires 3 & 4 of the cables, sockets connecting the Power Cab to the NCE USB. They aren't needed when the Power Cab is the only device plugged in. They are essential once you have a second device (NCE USB or slave throttle). Do a bit of visual checking. 2) Bad/marginal RS485 driver chips on either/both of the Power Cab and NCE USB. 3) The problem described at the following link, possibly combined with (2) above.
We are suddenly being overwhelmed by this sort of problem and we are suspecting hardware problems... ? Couple of questions that I have:
a. The NCE USB adapter has minimal documentation ( jumper settings for one! )
I've given you them. and no description of what the 2 LED chips mean when they are on or off.? There is one under the USB cable connector and one under the coiled cord connector ( RJ7 ? ).? Do you happen to know if they should be one,? or off?
You tell me what you see and I'll interpret. Normal situation is both off, with brief flashes of both when you ask JMRI to do something. Currently as I type this the adapter is plugged in per directions,? powered up,? and one of the two surface mounted LED's is on:? the one under the coiled cord connector.
The NCE USB is locked up (you have to unplug the RJ connector to reset it).See above. If I plug a power cab throttle into the empty connector on the power cab board interface,? that LED goes out and the other one ( under the USB connector ) goes on. Is this correct behavior??
Do you have two two throttles? If so, we need to know and exactly what they are (as per label on throttle. Note: ? with a loco on the program track the sound only comes on when I plug the throttle in,? otherwise the loco is not active.
You'll never get any sound or life from a loco, nor be able to program a loco unless you have a "Power Cab" plugged into the left hand front socket of the PCP and the LED on the PCP is on.
If you can figure this out,? I think I should be all set.? I'm guessing its a USB/serial port "problem" of some type.
You can rule that out. ? I just don't get what it is...¡...
It's looking like a cabling or hardware issue.
I'm going to have to sign off for the night and have a life.
If the "experts" get you to change settings (and hence set the whole process back), I'm out of this.
Dave in Australia
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
Tom, On 11 Feb 2020, at 3:11 PM, Thomas Greis <tomgreis@...> wrote:
If you can figure this out, I think I should be all set. I'm guessing its a USB/serial port "problem" of some type. I just don't get what it is...¡... You're looking the wrong place. That is all good. Wait for the email I'm currently composing. Dave in Australia
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
Dave:
A little bit more feedback from the system that may help you in figuring out what's going on.? Here are the error messages when I start the program with the USB cable removed:
Unable to create connection "NCE" (N).
????Serial port COM4 not found.Serial port COM4 not found.
System connection NCE provides a null manager for interface jmri.CommandStation
Unable to run startup actions due to earlier failures.?
Tom Greis
On Monday, February 10, 2020, 08:02:44 PM PST, Thomas Greis <tomgreis@...> wrote:
Dave:
Thank you for your prompt reply to my situation.? Still cannot get the program to stay "online".?
Let me respond sequentially to your suggestions:
1. I had already downloaded the SiLabs driver;? the NCE website directed me to the same link you supplied.? Appears correctly in the device manager, so most likely not the issue?
2. "Com4" still is the only choice I have for the serial port,? but I do not have any serial ports on my computer ( HP Omen desktop )? I sense this may be the problem as I did get an list of errors the system found.
3. NCE USB Adapter Jumpers - I did not change these from the way they were when I bought the card. I see nothing teling me what the proper setting should be for these 4 jumpers.? They are currently not set on any of the four pin sets ( I assume that would be considered "off " ? ) .? Should they be enabled?
4. Here is the log readout,? sorry if I started it multiple times this evening trying to get it going.
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.18+R37ad3d0 starts under Java 1.8.0_241 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Mon Feb 10 19:37:28 PST 2020 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,430 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f2a7782 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,696 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using 241b5333-8ef0-4018-a06f-19d49d6487f0 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f2a7782 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,790 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,123 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4? port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,249 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,281 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\User\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:38:30,720 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 9E consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:40,728 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: A9 00 08 consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:50,931 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:51,148 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:01,149 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:01,352 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:11,363 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:11,566 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:21,572 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:31,587 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 9E consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
Couple of questions that I have:
a. The NCE USB adapter has minimal documentation ( jumper settings for one! ) and no description of what the 2 LED chips mean when they are on or off.? There is one under the USB cable connector and one under the coiled cord connector ( RJ7 ? ).? Do you happen to know if they should be one,? or off?? Currently as I type this the adapter is plugged in per directions,? powered up,? and one of the two surface mounted LED's is on:? the one under the coiled cord connector. If I plug a power cab throttle into the empty connector on the power cab board interface,? that LED goes out and the other one ( under the USB connector ) goes on. Is this correct behavior?? Note: ? with a loco on the program track the sound only comes on when I plug the throttle in,? otherwise the loco is not active.
If you can figure this out,? I think I should be all set.? I'm guessing its a USB/serial port "problem" of some type.? I just don't get what it is...¡...
Tom Greis
On Monday, February 10, 2020, 06:33:11 PM PST, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
Tom,
- The NCE USB uses the SiLabs CP2102 chipset. Download and install SiLabs CP210x drivers from
<>
- There is a Universal? driver for Windows 10.
- The downloaded file will be a ".zip"
- You open that file and then open the file called:
"CP210xVCPInstaller_x86.exe" or "CP210xVCPInstaller_x64.exe" depending on whether your Windows is 32 bit or 64 bit.
- After doing this you should get the SiLabs device appearing as a new COM port in Windows Device Manager when you plug it in.
- Sometimes you may need to install the driver again after plugging in the NCE USB to get rid of the error symbol in Windows Device Manager.
- If you still have questions marks, try removing driver in Device Manager and try again as above
- When you have it working properly, the COM port should appear/disappear as you plug/unplug the NCE USB.
- Do not try to set the baud rate in Windows Device Manager.
- Ignore all other documentation to the contrary (there is some incorrect information in places) and set up as below:
- It also explains how to read the version of your NCE USB (only the first digit counts, the last three report how your jumpers 2-4 are set and jumper 1 is ignored on all systems).
Power Cab Instructions
=================
The best beginner-level settings for a Power Cab (any version) and an NCE USB (any version)? are:
- All USB Jumpers off (or at least 2, 3 & 4. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection:? NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever appeared/disappeared above as you plugged/unplugged>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: PowerCab
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 9600.
The JMRI console log should then report V6.3.0 or V7.3.0.
If you don't get a version number or the system does not work, Use Help->System Console...->Copy to clipboard and paste into a post for us to see.
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
Dave:
Thank you for your prompt reply to my situation.? Still cannot get the program to stay "online".?
Let me respond sequentially to your suggestions:
1. I had already downloaded the SiLabs driver;? the NCE website directed me to the same link you supplied.? Appears correctly in the device manager, so most likely not the issue?
2. "Com4" still is the only choice I have for the serial port,? but I do not have any serial ports on my computer ( HP Omen desktop )? I sense this may be the problem as I did get an list of errors the system found.
3. NCE USB Adapter Jumpers - I did not change these from the way they were when I bought the card. I see nothing teling me what the proper setting should be for these 4 jumpers.? They are currently not set on any of the four pin sets ( I assume that would be considered "off " ? ) .? Should they be enabled?
4. Here is the log readout,? sorry if I started it multiple times this evening trying to get it going.
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\User\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,279 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.18+R37ad3d0 starts under Java 1.8.0_241 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Mon Feb 10 19:37:28 PST 2020 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,430 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f2a7782 [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,696 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using 241b5333-8ef0-4018-a06f-19d49d6487f0 as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f2a7782 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-10 19:37:28,790 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,123 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4? port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,249 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,281 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\User\JMRI\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\User\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:37:29,296 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2020-02-10 19:38:30,720 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 9E consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:40,728 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: A9 00 08 consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:50,931 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 2 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:38:51,148 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Incorrect or no response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:01,149 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 3 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:01,352 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:11,363 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 4 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:11,566 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - No response from NCE command station [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:21,572 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 5 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2020-02-10 19:39:31,587 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 9E consecutive timeouts = 6 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
Couple of questions that I have:
a. The NCE USB adapter has minimal documentation ( jumper settings for one! ) and no description of what the 2 LED chips mean when they are on or off.? There is one under the USB cable connector and one under the coiled cord connector ( RJ7 ? ).? Do you happen to know if they should be one,? or off?? Currently as I type this the adapter is plugged in per directions,? powered up,? and one of the two surface mounted LED's is on:? the one under the coiled cord connector. If I plug a power cab throttle into the empty connector on the power cab board interface,? that LED goes out and the other one ( under the USB connector ) goes on. Is this correct behavior?? Note: ? with a loco on the program track the sound only comes on when I plug the throttle in,? otherwise the loco is not active.
If you can figure this out,? I think I should be all set.? I'm guessing its a USB/serial port "problem" of some type.? I just don't get what it is...¡...
Tom Greis
On Monday, February 10, 2020, 06:33:11 PM PST, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
Tom,
- The NCE USB uses the SiLabs CP2102 chipset. Download and install SiLabs CP210x drivers from
<>
- There is a Universal? driver for Windows 10.
- The downloaded file will be a ".zip"
- You open that file and then open the file called:
"CP210xVCPInstaller_x86.exe" or "CP210xVCPInstaller_x64.exe" depending on whether your Windows is 32 bit or 64 bit.
- After doing this you should get the SiLabs device appearing as a new COM port in Windows Device Manager when you plug it in.
- Sometimes you may need to install the driver again after plugging in the NCE USB to get rid of the error symbol in Windows Device Manager.
- If you still have questions marks, try removing driver in Device Manager and try again as above
- When you have it working properly, the COM port should appear/disappear as you plug/unplug the NCE USB.
- Do not try to set the baud rate in Windows Device Manager.
- Ignore all other documentation to the contrary (there is some incorrect information in places) and set up as below:
- It also explains how to read the version of your NCE USB (only the first digit counts, the last three report how your jumpers 2-4 are set and jumper 1 is ignored on all systems).
Power Cab Instructions
=================
The best beginner-level settings for a Power Cab (any version) and an NCE USB (any version)? are:
- All USB Jumpers off (or at least 2, 3 & 4. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection:? NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever appeared/disappeared above as you plugged/unplugged>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: PowerCab
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 9600.
The JMRI console log should then report V6.3.0 or V7.3.0.
If you don't get a version number or the system does not work, Use Help->System Console...->Copy to clipboard and paste into a post for us to see.
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Re: Help with DS64's and JMRI
EsK,
The DS64 roster entry is only usable via a LocoNet connection. This is because the JMRI code for the LocoNet connection has the appropriate interpretation of the CV number "115:12", but none of the other connection types understands this format.
Why? Because the mechanism for configuring the DS64 is a special one which is only available on LocoNet. Other systems don't have the connectivity or the communication protocols required for that configuration mechanism. (The same is true for the Digitrax SE8C, BDL16x, and PM4x devices.)
Instead, you will need to program the DS64 OpSw settings using turnout commands after pressing the proper DS64 button to get the DS64 into its "OpSw setting mode". See the DS64 manual.
But you may choose to use the JMRI roster entry to figure out what values to use for the various OpSw settings. Use the friendly pages of the roster entry to choose the configuration you want. Then look at the roster entry "OPSWs" page to find the actual settings. The OpSw numbers can be inferred from the CV numbers. For example, "115:12" implies DS64 OpSw 12. A value of 0 implies "T"hrown, and a value of 1 implies "C"losed. Ignore the OpSw numbered as "1", and only pay attention to the ones which begin with "115:".
And if you use this method for SE8C or PM4x or BDL16x configuration, different "prefix" numbers will apply; the prefix "115:" implies DS64, other values imply the other device types.
Regards,
Billybob
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Re: Help with DS64's and JMRI
The LocoNet menu's DS64 Configuration tool is _only_ able to work across a LocoNet cable; it cannot perform any useful function with a DS64 without a connected and functional LocoNet. As such, it will be useless (and not even available) when the JMRI system connection is via a SPROG device.
It is _NOT_ possible to change the DS64 "Board ID" using either a JMRI Roster entry _or_ via the LocoNet DS64 Configuration tool. Neither of these tools, nor the specific LocoNet messaging protocol, has the appropriate capabilities.
Regards,
Billybob
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Re: JMRI throttle with 4.18
Marc,
Went to the club to capture the log after getting the error and of course I could not get the error to show. I have shown others what I need should the error return so I can post it here.?
A watched pot........
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Post your System Console log to the thread.? HELP > System Console > Copy to Clipboard >? Paste to thread.
The only problem of late was with 4.16 and the baud rate going to 19200 which is an error.? Should be at 57600.
You will see this in the System Console if such is the case.
Marc.
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Terry,
Just to be clear, you position the mouse over a turnout name, click and hold the mouse button, move the move over a "undefined" box and release the mouse button?
What version of JMRI are you running?
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor #paneleditor
Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 8:19 PM
Dave, I uploaded a screen shot of the Panel Pro Editor screen open with the "undefined boxes". Sorry I don't know why the screen shot is so fuzzy. Additionally I tried as you suggested moving the names to the boxes and or the icons to the boxes and there is no common dragging the image, as with all of the other placed icons, present. There must be something very simple that I am missing as everything else has worked perfectly! So I am back to looking at this tomorrow. There must be some means for defining the required boxes and it must be deep in the program. The image is has been loaded into the photo section under the heading "Panel Pro Editor X over"
--
Terry Cummins
S.E. Michigan
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Re: Help Setting up JMRI & NCE Power Cab Via USB
Tom,
- The NCE USB uses the SiLabs CP2102 chipset. Download and install SiLabs CP210x drivers from
<>
- There is a Universal driver for Windows 10.
- The downloaded file will be a ".zip"
- You open that file and then open the file called:
"CP210xVCPInstaller_x86.exe" or "CP210xVCPInstaller_x64.exe" depending on whether your Windows is 32 bit or 64 bit.
- After doing this you should get the SiLabs device appearing as a new COM port in Windows Device Manager when you plug it in.
- Sometimes you may need to install the driver again after plugging in the NCE USB to get rid of the error symbol in Windows Device Manager.
- If you still have questions marks, try removing driver in Device Manager and try again as above
- When you have it working properly, the COM port should appear/disappear as you plug/unplug the NCE USB.
- Do not try to set the baud rate in Windows Device Manager.
- Ignore all other documentation to the contrary (there is some incorrect information in places) and set up as below:
- It also explains how to read the version of your NCE USB (only the first digit counts, the last three report how your jumpers 2-4 are set and jumper 1 is ignored on all systems).
Power Cab Instructions
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The best beginner-level settings for a Power Cab (any version) and an NCE USB (any version) are:
- All USB Jumpers off (or at least 2, 3 & 4. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection: NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever appeared/disappeared above as you plugged/unplugged>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: PowerCab
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 9600.
The JMRI console log should then report V6.3.0 or V7.3.0.
If you don't get a version number or the system does not work, Use Help->System Console...->Copy to clipboard and paste into a post for us to see.
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Sorry I missed this question. I am in Panel Editor attempting to add a double crossover using the scissors with (4) turnouts. I put a screen shot? in Photo's under Panel Pro Editor Double X over. I open everything with Panel Pro and then Panel Editor to add the icons. I don't know any other means to get there at this point. Still very new.
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Terry Cummins
S.E. Michigan
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I am including the link, sorry I forgot to have it ready for the earlier post.?
/g/jmriusers/photo/240971/0?p=Name,,Panel+Pro+Editor+X+over,20,1,0,0
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Terry Cummins
S.E. Michigan
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Dave, I uploaded a screen shot of the Panel Pro Editor screen open with the "undefined boxes". Sorry I don't know why the screen shot is so fuzzy. Additionally I tried as you suggested moving the names to the boxes and or the icons to the boxes and there is no common dragging the image, as with all of the other placed icons, present. There must be something very simple that I am missing as everything else has worked perfectly! So I am back to looking at this tomorrow. There must be some means for defining the required boxes and it must be deep in the program. The image is has been loaded into the photo section under the heading "Panel Pro Editor X over"
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Terry Cummins
S.E. Michigan
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Re: Help with DS64's and JMRI
Hello Guys,
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I am new to this and new to this group as well. Was not sure if I am supposed to create a new thread or what, so am taking the liberty of posting it here.
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4¡¯ x 8¡¯ N scale, Kato Unitrack layout. JMRI 4.18, SPROG 3. No LocoNet, DS64 is powered through Track
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Four of the turnouts are controlled via a Digitrax DS64 and these I am able to switch these individually with Decoder Pro turnout control. Now am attempting to connect Digitrax BD4 to provide input to DS64 for switching.?
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Am stuck at the basic step of changing DS4 OpSw options. Digitrax Support informed me that OpSw 12 needs to be changed to CLOSED for the DS64 to accept sensor input on A1. When I attempt to write the changed? CV for OpSw 12 via Decoder Pro program option, it throws the following exception:
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Exception during CV write: java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: ¡°115:12¡±
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I did try to go through some of the posts in the forum on this topic but don¡¯t seem to understand how to proceed.
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Thanks
EsK
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Nope, sounded great, but no amount of combinations have yielded success at this point. I know it have probably worked for everybody else but it is not working for me. I am posting a screen shot so maybe a clue will present itself. Thanks for the path! ? Terry ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: mrclassicmanSent: Monday, February 10, 2020 8:38 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? Ah Ha! Now that I have not tried! Thank you. I will report back ASAP. ? Terry ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: Dave Sand
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? Terry, You do not put icons in the boxes, you select a turnout from the list in the lower part of the window and drag turnout names to the boxes. ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:53 PM Dave I will try this again, but for some reason I do not get the drop even when over the box. I have the scissor selected with 4 turnouts so four boxes.? The boxes will not, or have not accepted any of the icons that I have tried to put in them. No other multiple icon selection such as turnouts? closed, thrown, inconsistent or unknown come up with undefined in their boxes. I am burned out for tonight and will try again in the morning. Thank you very much, I hope this works for me as you describe. ? Terry Cummins S.E. Michigan ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? Terry, I assume you are talking about the Panel Editor. When you select "Slip/3 Way Turnout/Scissor" the dialog present a number of options. To create a double cross-over, select the "Scissor Crossing" radio button. ?This will display a choice for 4 Turnouts or 2 Turnouts. ?Below that will be either 4 boxes or 2 boxes depending on your choice. ?Panel Editor does not have a choice for 1 turnout. The next step is to "drag and drop" 2 or 4 turnouts from the turnout list to the "undefined" boxes. ?Once the "undefined" boxes have turnout names, click on Add to Panel. ?The double cross-over will be in the upper left corner. Note: ?Depending on the operating system, during the drag process an icon will show up by the mouse pointer when it is over the drop area. ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:59 PM I was able to add the double crossover to the layout editor, no problem. Panel Pro editor is the one that I cannot get to add the icon.? I have all my turnouts on and functioning and track segments, just not able to get the double cross over due to the message Undefined ??. ?? question mark is for the fact that I can¡¯t remember the rest. Lol. I will open the program back up and get the complete message. My double crossover is switch number it103 and I highlight it before I attempt dragging the various icons into the appropriate (4) boxes. But the icons will not drag to the boxes and the only thing different is the message undefined showing up. So I think that the message means some how I have to define crossover in some manor, just not certain how. ? Terry Cummins S.E. Michigan ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? ? Terry, Which PanelPro editor: ?Panel, Control Panel or Layout? ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 2:43 PM If am having difficulty placing icon for double crossover on my panel. I found the icon (4 way) but the icon won't place to be added to the panel? Each of the boxes state undefined ??? I had no problem placing any of the other elements. What am I doing wrong or how do I define the object? Thanks in advance for any assistance here!
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Terry Cummins
S.E. Michigan
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Ah Ha! Now that I have not tried! Thank you. I will report back ASAP. ? Terry ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Dave SandSent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:57 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? Terry, You do not put icons in the boxes, you select a turnout from the list in the lower part of the window and drag turnout names to the boxes. ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:53 PM Dave I will try this again, but for some reason I do not get the drop even when over the box. I have the scissor selected with 4 turnouts so four boxes.? The boxes will not, or have not accepted any of the icons that I have tried to put in them. No other multiple icon selection such as turnouts? closed, thrown, inconsistent or unknown come up with undefined in their boxes. I am burned out for tonight and will try again in the morning. Thank you very much, I hope this works for me as you describe. ? Terry Cummins S.E. Michigan ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? Terry, I assume you are talking about the Panel Editor. When you select "Slip/3 Way Turnout/Scissor" the dialog present a number of options. To create a double cross-over, select the "Scissor Crossing" radio button. ?This will display a choice for 4 Turnouts or 2 Turnouts. ?Below that will be either 4 boxes or 2 boxes depending on your choice. ?Panel Editor does not have a choice for 1 turnout. The next step is to "drag and drop" 2 or 4 turnouts from the turnout list to the "undefined" boxes. ?Once the "undefined" boxes have turnout names, click on Add to Panel. ?The double cross-over will be in the upper left corner. Note: ?Depending on the operating system, during the drag process an icon will show up by the mouse pointer when it is over the drop area. ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:59 PM I was able to add the double crossover to the layout editor, no problem. Panel Pro editor is the one that I cannot get to add the icon.? I have all my turnouts on and functioning and track segments, just not able to get the double cross over due to the message Undefined ??. ?? question mark is for the fact that I can¡¯t remember the rest. Lol. I will open the program back up and get the complete message. My double crossover is switch number it103 and I highlight it before I attempt dragging the various icons into the appropriate (4) boxes. But the icons will not drag to the boxes and the only thing different is the message undefined showing up. So I think that the message means some how I have to define crossover in some manor, just not certain how. ? Terry Cummins S.E. Michigan ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor ? ? Terry, Which PanelPro editor: ?Panel, Control Panel or Layout? ----- Original message ----- From: mrclassicman <mrclassicman512@...> Subject: [jmriusers] Undefined problem double x over in Panel Pro editor Date: Monday, February 10, 2020 2:43 PM If am having difficulty placing icon for double crossover on my panel. I found the icon (4 way) but the icon won't place to be added to the panel? Each of the boxes state undefined ??? I had no problem placing any of the other elements. What am I doing wrong or how do I define the object? Thanks in advance for any assistance here! -- Terry CumminsS.E. Michigan
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Re: basic hook up laptop to powerhouse
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Bruce, On 11 Feb 2020, at 8:21 AM, forfoum@... wrote:
Go into Windows Device Manager, view COM ports.. Now disconnect / connect your RS-232/USB cable from the computer and note the change.. Should vanish and reappear. If you see nothing, then the device driver is not loaded or the device has a problem. If no driver loaded but device is operational, it should show up as unknown device. FTDI USB-Serial Drivers from: <> Dave in Australia
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Re: basic hook up laptop to powerhouse
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Tim, On 11 Feb 2020, at 7:54 AM, burrettmd <burrett@...> wrote:
OK, so I have found under connections a place to change the system connection to serial from simulator. Is an asking me for a serial port and gives me none selected or no ports found. I am using a serial RS 232 connection at the powerhouse to a USB port on my computer. When I change from system connection to NCE USB I get the same problem, no serial port selected or found thanks for the help, I think I¡¯m getting close with your instruction! Don't select NCE USB for the Power Pro. You must use "Serial". Dave in Australia
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Re: JMRI and DCC++: Exception with Simple Programmer in Ops Accessory Byte/Extended Byte mode
#dccpp
#4-18
So why would JMRI throw that exception if the DCC++ wouldn't complain? <>
if?(num_bytes?<?2?||?num_bytes?>?5)?return(null);
Guess you haven't got a checkout of the JMRI code?
I could do you a private build with that change later if need be...
Dave in Australia.
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