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Mil 810 C, D, E for shock......Mil 810 C, D, E, for vibration in IC706/7000
Tom
Hi IC7000 Fans,
Does anyone out there know how Icom achieves Mil 810 C, D, E for shock and vibration when using surface mounted components? Just curious. Tom KE6YNH, 73 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 |
Mike Valentine
Hi Tom,
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I am under the impression that surface mounted components have less mass, shorter cantilever length, and therefore much, much higher mechanical resonant frequencies than leaded parts. Am I missing something? Cheers, Mike - W8MM --- In ic7000@..., "Tom" <tgleeman@i...> wrote:
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Tom
Hi Mike(W8MM) and the Group,
Mike wrote: I am under the impression that surfaceThat is a good impression, Mike. I used to watch the guys at the surplus house get the surface mounted parts off boards by flexing the board. They didn't even need to get their soldering irons warm. I'm just wondering how Icom produces a reliable product they call "portable" and "mobile" or does that just mean it can be carried from room to room? Anyone.....what's inside your 706.....and possibly the 7000 that keeps the parts from rattling around???? Tom KE6YNH, 73 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 |
MKM
Also, the IC-7000 does not require analog filters so it is mechanically / electrically more robust in theory.
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I heard last night from the 3840 group that the rig will have digital in / out for audio...hope it is true. I can't wait, Icom should just release the specs now and deliver later. On Mar 4, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Mike Valentine wrote:
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jdow
Ah yes, that is likely true about the missing analog filters.
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Now the time was in the very early 70s. The setting was a small company in Arcadia that was building a Sonobouy receiver for the S3A aircraft. This receiver had 31 individual receivers through the low level audio output, a 31 by 16 multiplexer, and a fancy antenna multicoupler with a preamp from science fiction. (130MHz or so frequency Very high IMD intercept point and a noise figure so low that measuring it required liquid nitrogen.) We were testing unit 1 for shock and vibration. The unit was firmly mounted to the vibration table. It was powered up. And as I heard it some one of the table's jockeys pulled a wire. The table went WHAM against its stops. The poor receiver suffered. About 1/3 of the crystal filters died. Some were degraded. And one degraded and died as I was retesting it after the event. It seems those nice little wires to the plated areas on the crystals in the crystal filters do not like heavy shock and vibration. They tend to break loose. So any receiver that can minimize the number of crystal filters can survive more shock and vibration. This is also a good reason to have multiple first conversion filters that can be selected arbitrarily by the user overriding any automated selection. Not that the 7800 gets much shock and vibration in most uses but it should have this override capability as a redundancy feature that leaves the radio mostly useable while replacements are on order. For military or Homeland Security purposes such a design should be considered a requirement. {^_^} 62 new filters later and that radio was back in business, in theory anyway. Now, I've forgotten how many were replaced. But it was not "62". <sigh> W6MKU ----- Original Message -----
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MKM
Great story.
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Thanks. On Mar 4, 2005, at 7:08 PM, jdow wrote:
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jdow
From: "Tom" <tgleeman@...>
That is a good impression, Mike. I used to watchHowever, properly mounted PCBs do not vibrate as much with SMT as they do with the heavier leaded components. I believe it's a net win if the PCB is made stiff enough. The chief win is getting resonances out of the range you get within a given vehicle. {^_^} |
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