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I stopped posting in the Yahoo Pension forum long ago


 
Edited

I would have posted this on the Yahoo forum, but am unable to do so. I think I voluntarily exited from the group.

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Kathy, you claimed, in a earlier post (seems to have been removed), that people didn't stop participating in this forum, because of moderation. That's bullshit. It's the sole reason I stopped.

I happened to have many management jobs in my IBM career. I was relentlessly attacked by a woman (and several others) because I had been a manager. The attacks had nothing to do with any thing I posted, it was because I had been an IBM manager. A classic example of bigotry. I don't remember the woman's handle, but she frequently added a long string of laughing icons to her posts. Although I found it irritating, that is not why I left. I left because of an increasing number of my posts were removed by moderator(s). Not once was there an explanation.

Kathi Cooper did a great job overcoming one of IBM's illegal efforts to wiggle out of its commitments to former employees like us. But unless IBM tries to reduce the pensions that we have earned, there is no reason for any more battles.

I've never spoken with Ron Linton, or corresponded with him. He's done much more to help retired IBMers than almost any of us. He's not a demon.

My reading of the tea leaves is that Yahoo groups are being phased out, because Verizon doesn't find them profitable. I suspect that removing the ability to store files for a group is phase 1, and that phase 2 will be selling Yahoo groups to another company.

I joined the OneExchange and Pension groups in groups.io today, and I encourage others to do so too.

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Update - I just discovered that I had a log entry about my decision to stop contributing to the IBM. Here is a verbatim copy:

"10:34 AM 9/19/2014 I noticed my 3rd attempt to respond was again silently censored. And there was a (an unrepentant) post by primosprimosprimos. So I decided to leave the IBMPension Yahoo group. The leaving process did not ask for feedback (although I did have my Adblock turned on). No matter, that forum has just become a waste of my time. My reason is: primosprimosprimos repeatedly denigrates all ex-IBM managers as a group because they belong to a group defined as ex-IBM managers. There is a simple term to define that kind of thought pattern and behavior. It is called bigotry. I defended a self-professed ex-manager who asserted he was innocent of the despicable behavior primosprimosprimos was accusing him of. My reward was a personal attack: "notice how all the managers ooze out from under the rocks when their secret handshake deals are revealed? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.". I tried to respond to her attack more than once, and all attempts were censored."


 

Perhaps you were remembering "Iggy". ?A part of me says to forget all that historical noise, but it was interesting from the sidelines. ?A few of my posts got filtered out over there too, and I was never a manager. I have no pension issues and will most likely be a silent listener until something I can contribute on. ?Consider this as my "test post" of joining the group for the free flow of information.


 

amphi_sc,

Thanks for your candid remembrance. I vaguely remember iggy, but I'm pretty certain that primosprimosprimos was my primary attacker. Kathy Cooper, and whoever else was moderating in 2014, was way out of line, IMO. Too much authoritarian censorship, based on personal opinions, which were not stated in the forum posting rules.

My first post here was sort of a "test post" too. I want an alternative IBM retiree discussion forum, in case Verizon decides to shut down non-profitable Yahoo forums.


 

My favorite poster of all time was "The Shadow" circa 1999 or early 2000's.??? Wonder what became of him?


 

Only Lamont Cranston knows! Ha-ha-ha-ha!? All kidding aside (couldn't resist), I do seem to have a vague recollection of him, but haven't a clue to where he disappeared. He may have passed on or, probably like a lot of us, got fed up with the political turn the site was taking and the BS some got for not always siding with the moderator or think-a-likes. If it had been later, I would have attributed it to the switch to Facebook (another site that has become highly politicized and intrusive).