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Epson Inkjet testing (Claria Photo HD ink). What ink color blocks UV the best? Is it black, yellow, green or other?


 

I purchased a Epson Xp-55 printer with Claria Photo HD ink. This ink is claimed to have very high density and high resistance to UV light.

I have made a test pattern with a gradient from Red to Blue to Green, to Yellow
I also made a dense black test pattern. In addition I made a dense blue and a dense yellow pattern.

Do anyone on this group / list have any experience with what color that blocks the UV radiation best? I heard that it may be a combination of Y Red and Green (yellow), but I am not sure.


 

A clarification about inkjet printing: the inks are not RGB, they are CMYK. Cyan, magenta, yellow, and black. Six color printers add a photo magenta and photo cyan, which are simply paler inks. A seven color printer adds a photo black.

The colors most prone to fading often have UV inhibitors added - so yellow, and photo magenta and photo cyan. Dye inks work better than pigmented, presumably because dye inks require more UV blockers to protect them. Some have reported the black ink in their particular printer blocks UV fine, most have reported that printing light green to get a mix of yellow and photo cyan works best.
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Of course, the actual inks used depend on not only the shade you set, but in the printer driver which converts RGB to cCmMYkK and in the settings therein. So you'll need to do some experimenting. Do you know what stepped exposures are? AKA "transmission step wedge"?
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I think to get the driver to use the photo inks, you must set the paper type to photo paper. See the first link above, it is quite detailed.

Regular inkjet transparency films are not necessarily the best for this. In the screenprint trade, inkjets are used to make transparencies as the screens are coated with a UV exposeable coating. There are transparencies made specifically for this that are made to accept a very heavy ink load. They are not the standard overhead projector transparency, these look like vellum.

Try Jetstar and Silkjet.
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Hi Steven, thanks for info.

I just did a new test with a CMYK pattern instead (printing all single C M Y K colors separately). Paper set to Epson Premium Glossy.
I printed a dense test pattern on Jetstar Premium material from Mega. Ink: Epson Claria.
I found that C M Y were not neas as resistant to UV light as K.
K (black) was definitively the best (black).
Exposure 60 secs in a tube UV exposer (semi professional type).
I have attached an image of the result when developing.




 

On 29/06/18 22:19, Steven Greenfield AE7HD via Groups.Io wrote:
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Regular inkjet transparency films are not necessarily the best for this. In the screenprint trade, inkjets are used to make transparencies as the screens are coated with a UV exposeable coating. There are transparencies made specifically for this that are made to accept a very heavy ink load. They are not the standard overhead projector transparency, these look like vellum.
The UV films with a slightly tacky surface are gelatine coated.

The gelatine only absorbs dye ink, because the dye ink has no solid particles in it. The pigment ink *has* got particles, and will not dry.

I'm using an Epson Artisan 1430 which uses dye ink.
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On 29/06/18 22:19, Steven Greenfield AE7HD via Groups.Io wrote:
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Regular inkjet transparency films are not necessarily the best for this. In the screenprint trade, inkjets are used to make transparencies as the screens are coated with a UV exposeable coating. There are transparencies made specifically for this that are made to accept a very heavy ink load. They are not the standard overhead projector transparency, these look like vellum.
The UV films with a slightly tacky surface are gelatine coated.

The gelatine only absorbs dye ink, because the dye ink has no solid particles in it. The pigment ink *has* got particles, and will not dry.

I'm using an Epson Artisan 1430 which uses dye ink.
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I just made a new double-sided pcb yesterday and can start testing the circuit today.

So china doesn't solve everything.


 

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There are other non-gelatine trannys that work with pigment ink.


The ones I use are called Silkjet I think.


I don't know if anyone else mentioned it yet, but with dye inks yellow is often most opaque to UV.? With pigments it could be black.




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On 29/06/18 22:19, Steven Greenfield AE7HD via Groups.Io wrote:
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> Regular inkjet transparency films are not necessarily the best for this.
> In the screenprint trade, inkjets are used to make transparencies as the
> screens are coated with a UV exposeable coating. There are
> transparencies made specifically for this that are made to accept a very
> heavy ink load. They are not the standard overhead projector
> transparency, these look like vellum.

The UV films with a slightly tacky surface are gelatine coated.

The gelatine only absorbs dye ink, because the dye ink has no solid
particles in it. The pigment ink *has* got particles, and will not dry.

I'm using an Epson Artisan 1430 which uses dye ink.
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www.epson.com.au
Epson Ink Cartridges, Epson Claria? Photographic Ink - Ultra high definition photo prints for photo enthusiasts. Epson Claria Photographic ink is the ultimate dye ink designed especially for photo printing.



I just made a new double-sided pcb yesterday and can start testing the
circuit today.

So china doesn't solve everything.




 

The question is mostly related to what ink color on the Claria range is most blocking to UV not about film. I use Jetstar.

So far black looks best ... but did I actually print with Light Cyan and Light Magenta?

How can I print with PURELY one of the colors at a time with my Epson printer? In gimp there seems to be no setting for LC and LM.... ?Claria ink in my XP-55 has LC and LM in addition to C M Y K color cartridges ...


 

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I think djdelorie had a special linux Esc2P driver on his web page that allowed pure colour selection on Epson printers.




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The question is mostly related to what ink color on the Claria range is most blocking to UV not about film. I use Jetstar.

So far black looks best ... but did I actually print with Light Cyan and Light Magenta?

How can I print with PURELY one of the colors at a time with my Epson printer? In gimp there seems to be no setting for LC and LM.... ?Claria ink in my XP-55 has LC and LM in addition to C M Y K color cartridges ...


 

URL?


 

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Can't find it now - It used to be linked to here I think


www.delorie.com
Inkjet Photomask Experiments. Click on any thumbnail to see the full-size picture





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