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How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste?? I thought I had it figured out as I got a 100ml luer lock syringe and ran 100ml of hot water through my #21 and #22 needles but the next time I try to use them I find them clogged and the last one I could not get it opened up again.? I hope the needles are not 1 time use only.

Is there a way to actually clean those needles?

Thank you.

Jim Pruitt


 

On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 22:25, Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io
<jpruitt67@...> wrote:

How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste? I thought I had it figured out as I got a 100ml luer lock syringe and ran 100ml of hot water through my #21 and #22 needles but the next time I try to use them I find them clogged and the last one I could not get it opened up again. I hope the needles are not 1 time use only.

Is there a way to actually clean those needles?
Soak in IPA, and run through with acupuncture needles. I use #26 and
#28 dispensing needles (on a dima dotmaster) and this gets them clean
when they inevitably clog. I also find that I have to warm the paste
and syringe assembly, a 55W headlamp bulb mounted near the home
position and run from a variable PSU does the job.
The acupuncture needles are available all over the place and aren't
expensive - (and far better than trying to poke stripped wire wrap
wire through a clogged needle)

(or Amazon, ebay etc.)
Some dispensing needles are 'lucky', some clog quickly. I think it's a
function of the transition of the needle tube projecting into the main
body - if there's a step the solder balls get hung up, squeeze the
flux out and start to create a pellet of solid solder under the
pressure. You can finesse this a bit if you need, the needles are just
crimped into the body, you can adjust the depth (with care).
I've also been trying one-piece dispensing nozzles with some success -
like these, but they're not 'better' enough to convince me yet, and
I'd have to modify the dotmaster to suit.


Steve


 

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Hello Steve.

I do not see any acupuncture needles available from Amazon on this side of the pond.? The other site also in the UK that you linked seems to require being a licensed acupuncturist in order to buy the needles.? I do like the idea though.? Now to find a USA supplier.

Thank you.

Jim Pruitt


On 3/20/2025 3:48 PM, Steve Wiseman via groups.io wrote:

On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 22:25, Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io
<jpruitt67@...> wrote:
How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste?  I thought I had it figured out as I got a 100ml luer lock syringe and ran 100ml of hot water through my #21 and #22 needles but the next time I try to use them I find them clogged and the last one I could not get it opened up again.  I hope the needles are not 1 time use only.

Is there a way to actually clean those needles?
Soak in IPA, and run through with acupuncture needles. I use #26 and
#28 dispensing needles (on a dima dotmaster) and this gets them clean
when they inevitably clog. I also find that I have to warm the paste
and syringe assembly, a 55W headlamp bulb mounted near the home
position and run from a variable PSU does the job.
The acupuncture needles are available all over the place and aren't
expensive - (and far better than trying to poke stripped wire wrap
wire through a clogged needle)

 (or Amazon, ebay etc.)
Some dispensing needles are 'lucky', some clog quickly. I think it's a
function of the transition of the needle tube projecting into the main
body - if there's a step the solder balls get hung up, squeeze the
flux out and start to create a pellet of solid solder under the
pressure. You can finesse this a bit if you need, the needles are just
crimped into the body, you can adjust the depth (with care).
I've also been trying one-piece dispensing nozzles with some success -
like these, but they're not 'better' enough to convince me yet, and
I'd have to modify the dotmaster to suit.


Steve







 

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I’ll second the acupuncture needles.

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The 3D printing folk use them to clear nozzles, eg

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2025 3:15 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [homebrewpcbs] cleaning paste needles

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Hello Steve.

I do not see any acupuncture needles available from Amazon on this side of the pond.? The other site also in the UK that you linked seems to require being a licensed acupuncturist in order to buy the needles.? I do like the idea though.? Now to find a USA supplier.

Thank you.

Jim Pruitt

On 3/20/2025 3:48 PM, Steve Wiseman via groups.io wrote:

On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 at 22:25, Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io
<jpruitt67@...> wrote:
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How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste?? I thought I had it figured out as I got a 100ml luer lock syringe and ran 100ml of hot water through my #21 and #22 needles but the next time I try to use them I find them clogged and the last one I could not get it opened up again.? I hope the needles are not 1 time use only.
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Is there a way to actually clean those needles?
?
Soak in IPA, and run through with acupuncture needles. I use #26 and
#28 dispensing needles (on a dima dotmaster) and this gets them clean
when they inevitably clog. I also find that I have to warm the paste
and syringe assembly, a 55W headlamp bulb mounted near the home
position and run from a variable PSU does the job.
The acupuncture needles are available all over the place and aren't
expensive - (and far better than trying to poke stripped wire wrap
wire through a clogged needle)
 (or Amazon, ebay etc.)
Some dispensing needles are 'lucky', some clog quickly. I think it's a
function of the transition of the needle tube projecting into the main
body - if there's a step the solder balls get hung up, squeeze the
flux out and start to create a pellet of solid solder under the
pressure. You can finesse this a bit if you need, the needles are just
crimped into the body, you can adjust the depth (with care).
I've also been trying one-piece dispensing nozzles with some success -
like these, but they're not 'better' enough to convince me yet, and
I'd have to modify the dotmaster to suit.
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Steve
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Acupuncture needles rock!?
Otherwise a guitar 'E' string ( smallest diameter one ) range from .008(~.2mm) to .012inch(.305mm)


 

Ah, they're sold as 'printer cleaning needles' on Amazon uk, in handy
kits of different sizes.

(I have also bought a bunch of 3d printer nozzles, including the jewel
tipped and 0.1mm versions, to see if they'll dispense solder paste,
but they're still on the 'to do' pile. )

Steve


 

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the use not being critical; have a look to Aliexpress.


The lead time is usually 10 - 12 days.


On 21.03.25 05:15, Jim Pruitt WA7DUY via groups.io wrote:

Hello Steve.

I do not see any acupuncture needles available from Amazon on this side of the pond.? The other site also in the UK that you linked seems to require being a licensed acupuncturist in order to buy the needles.? I do like the idea though.? Now to find a USA supplier.



 

It does help to know the magic words when looking for stuff.

I use them for cleaning glue out of syringe needles. Do take the time to swipe the tips over some sandpaper, they are quiet sharp.

I prefer to use a torch to burn the plastic out of clogged nozzles, far less hassle. I don't print "exotic" stuff like carbon fibre so I don't have any ruby ones. I think they might be a bit of overkill for solder paste, the plain steel ones would be hard enough.

As the other poster said, plenty on AliExpress if you don't mind the wait.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Steve Wiseman via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2025 4:59 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [homebrewpcbs] cleaning paste needles

Ah, they're sold as 'printer cleaning needles' on Amazon uk, in handy kits of
different sizes.

(I have also bought a bunch of 3d printer nozzles, including the jewel tipped and
0.1mm versions, to see if they'll dispense solder paste, but they're still on the
'to do' pile. )

Steve




 

>?How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste???

I don't.? Simple as that, I use disposable plastic tips, when the session is done, in the bin.? No point trying to salvage half a gram of plastic that costs a few cents.




 

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Immediately flush with liquid flux cleaner a few times, followed by water and isopropynol flushes has worked ok for me in the past. Must be done before the paste dries in the needle.

All the Best
Alexis


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James via groups.io <bitsyboffin@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 8:54:41 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [homebrewpcbs] cleaning paste needles
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>?How do you clean the needles used to dispense solder paste???

I don't.? Simple as that, I use disposable plastic tips, when the session is done, in the bin.? No point trying to salvage half a gram of plastic that costs a few cents.