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Second Drawbar problem?


 

Hi,

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?
I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.
Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?
I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

Any suggestions??
(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

Thanks for thinking.?
Ali


 

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I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

8' pitch is unison pitch, the same pitch as a piano. 16 is an octave below, 5 1/3 a fifth above, and 4 an octave above. Playing the middle C key with the first four drawbars out, you should hear.? C below middle C, Middle C, G above middle C, and C above middle C. The remaining drawbars should sound, 2 2/3; G in the second octave above middle C,? 2; C two octaves above middle C, 1 3/5; E in the third octave, 1 1/3; G? in the third octave,? and 1; C three octaves above middle C. Highly unlikely that any one drawbar would be playing the wrong pitch, this is determined by the internal wiring of the manual keyboard. Two drawbars could be swapped in pitch if the wires to the back of the drawbars were not in the right order. Correct order is, brown, red, orange,? yellow, green, blue, purple, grey, white,? from 16 foot to 1 foot.


On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 10:35 pm Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

Thanks Rich. But that means the third drawbar is lower in note than the second. Does everybody have that too?

Ali

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 23:35 Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

Yes, that is correct.

Regards,
Rick Whatson

On Tue., 25 Feb. 2020, 21:45 Ali Asreco, <aliasreco@...> wrote:
Thanks Rich. But that means the third drawbar is lower in note than the second. Does everybody have that too?

Ali

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 23:35 Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

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This should help. Problem is, I don't know the source to give credit.
Dan L.



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Whatson <greenfox4075@...>
Date: 2020-02-25 5:47 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

Yes, that is correct.

Regards,
Rick Whatson

On Tue., 25 Feb. 2020, 21:45 Ali Asreco, <aliasreco@...> wrote:
Thanks Rich. But that means the third drawbar is lower in note than the second. Does everybody have that too?

Ali

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 23:35 Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

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Not necessary, this is common knowledge among Hammond players.

On 2/25/2020 10:25 AM, dalarson wrote:

This should help. Problem is, I don't know the source to give credit.
Dan L.



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Whatson <greenfox4075@...>
Date: 2020-02-25 5:47 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

Yes, that is correct.

Regards,
Rick Whatson

On Tue., 25 Feb. 2020, 21:45 Ali Asreco, <aliasreco@...> wrote:
Thanks Rich. But that means the third drawbar is lower in note than the second. Does everybody have that too?

Ali

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 23:35 Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali


 

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ya, that's what I thought.



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Hawthorn <organfreak@...>
Date: 2020-02-25 1:24 p.m. (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

Not necessary, this is common knowledge among Hammond players.

On 2/25/2020 10:25 AM, dalarson wrote:
This should help. Problem is, I don't know the source to give credit.
Dan L.



Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.


-------- Original message --------
From: Rick Whatson <greenfox4075@...>
Date: 2020-02-25 5:47 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

Yes, that is correct.

Regards,
Rick Whatson

On Tue., 25 Feb. 2020, 21:45 Ali Asreco, <aliasreco@...> wrote:
Thanks Rich. But that means the third drawbar is lower in note than the second. Does everybody have that too?

Ali

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020, 23:35 Rich Reid, <[email protected]> wrote:

I don’t claim to be an expert but I do believe the 5 1/3 should be an octave plus higher. 16ft- one octave higher 8ft- one octave higher 4ft, etc.

?

Rich Reid

208-861-9263

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ali Asreco
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2020 9:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hammondzone] Second Drawbar problem?

?

Hi,

?

Since a few weeks I think something is missing in the upper manual second Drawbar. The sound seems werker.?

I just listened to some YouTube videos. First drawbar should be 16'. Second should be 5 1/3'.

Does that mean when I press a C I should hear the G above that C?

I think I hear that G one octave higher which means a lesser fat tone when I open the first 4 drawbars.

?

Is a wire loose at the back? How ever do I get that wire back in the right place??

?

Every drawbar works, top and second manual. It's only the second from the top manual that sounds week.

?

Any suggestions??

(yes I oiled the organ some weeks ago).

?

Thanks for thinking.?

Ali